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    OrcBarbarianGuy

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    Default Bardic music without a bard level?

    Is there another way to gain the bardic music ability without taking a level in bard? The prestige classes I have found have bardic music as a requirement and I don’t know if any base classes aside from bard that grant bardic music.

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    Planetar

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    Default Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

    Arguably, by RAW, Initiate of Milil. "Your paladin, cleric, and bard levels stack for determining what kinds of bardic music you can use." Which is bootstrap levitation I admit, but anyway.

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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    Default Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

    Virtuoso 1, ecl 8, Complete Adventurer
    Fochlucan Lyrist 1, ecl 11, Complete Adventurer
    Dragonsong Lyrist 1, ecl 8, Draconomicon, functions like bardic music but different name, does not stack
    Warrior Skald 1, ecl 6, Races of Faerun
    Spellsinger 1, ecl 6, Races of Faerun
    Troubadour of Stars 1, ecl ?, Book of Exalted Deeds

    From the lists of stuff.

    Harmonious Knight (Paladin ACF) grants inspire courage only.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    smile Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

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    Planetar

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    Default Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korahir View Post
    From the lists of stuff.

    Harmonious Knight (Paladin ACF) grants inspire courage only.
    And the issue is whether it's granting you a form of bardic music or whether it's just a unique inspire courage ability. Unfortunately the ACF isn't clear on that one and makes no reference to bardic music uses.

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    Default Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

    I don't know of a way.
    Edit: misunderstood, thought you meant without any class levels. There are several PRCs that grant it as people have pointed out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saintheart View Post
    Arguably, by RAW, Initiate of Milil. "Your paladin, cleric, and bard levels stack for determining what kinds of bardic music you can use." Which is bootstrap levitation I admit, but anyway.
    That doesn't grant you the actual class feature though unless you take bard, so funny as it would be I don't think it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saintheart View Post
    And the issue is whether it's granting you a form of bardic music or whether it's just a unique inspire courage ability. Unfortunately the ACF isn't clear on that one and makes no reference to bardic music uses.
    Seems pretty clear -- would fulfill inspire courage req but not bardic music.
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    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

    If you're not too picky, technically Pathfinder Chronicler prestige class (from 3.5 era Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting) can be ported into just about any setting

    It grants you Bardic Music starting from 3rd level, exactly as the bard feature, at your PrC level -2, eventually reaching effective bard level 8 in regards to what you can do with Bardic Music (inspire courage +2 for example).
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    BlackDragon

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    Default Re: Bardic music without a bard level?

    The soundweaver archetype of the kineticist in pathfinder. It's a 3rd party, produced by Legendary.
    It's become my favorite thing to use in place of bard. Gets really good ways if reducing burn.
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