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2021-06-13, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait new prediction:
Orange voice starts talking to Elan telepathically, surprised to find someone on the same wavelength, but also pleased to find someone who can be briefly distracted while it subdues the rest of the Order.
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2021-06-15, 08:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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I was right: Elan's character development died.
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2021-06-15, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-15, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-15, 03:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by arimareiji; 2021-06-15 at 03:33 PM.
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2021-06-19, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-19, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-20, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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1237: Despite being the bait, Elan is not Serini's actual first target when she springs the trap. Given that Elan is the one being lured away, I'm gonna guess that Haley is the intended first strike...because when you're an outnumbered rogue, you don't want the other side thinking like a rogue.
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2021-06-22, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2021-06-22 at 11:44 PM.
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2021-06-23, 08:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-23, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I am still going with the dwarves as the first targets. Get rid of the healers and the fight doesn't last as long. I am about six strips past that prediction, but...
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2021-06-23, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-23, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think it has to be about ego. Morale is a finite resource, and if your enemies feel outmaneuvered or outsmarted by an unseen adversary, they're more likely to get panicky and make stupid mistakes. Look at how Tarquin-era Linear Guild fell apart at the pyramid ambush, starting with a single clever trick that relied on getting inside Nale's head.
Having a plan and contingencies makes you feel confident. "Take out the spellcaster" is a common tactic, and we've seen The Order recently exploit that in the HPoH fight. If they're expecting their attacker to go for V, then applying all of her pressure elsewhere could be a surprise.
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2021-06-23, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'd think that losing the most powerful member of your party in the first round can be demoralizing enough. Haley's good, but she's not quite at the top of the food chain and unlike the casters, she cannot negate invisibility, flight and the other magic tricks that she needs more than the Order needs an archer (who's extra damage dealing trick has a 0 chance of working against an epic level fogue).
Look at how Tarquin-era Linear Guild fell apart at the pyramid ambush, starting with a single clever trick that relied on getting inside Nale's head.
Having a plan and contingencies makes you feel confident. "Take out the spellcaster" is a common tactic, and we've seen The Order recently exploit that in the HPoH fight. If they're expecting their attacker to go for V, then applying all of her pressure elsewhere could be a surprise.
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2021-06-23, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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That's assuming Serini would succeed trying to take V down, though. If the Order knows that V is the most likely target, then V is also more likely to have additional buffs and defenses.
Picking an unorthodox target can give you a chance to strike where your opponent doesn't have their guard up as strongly.
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2021-06-23, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Metastachydium; 2021-06-23 at 10:35 AM.
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2021-06-23, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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People put too much faith in the meta. As OotS has demonstrated numerous times, raw power is not the end-all-be-all, and Haley has shown her value to the team in "thinking like a rogue" more than once. If I was an Epic-level rogue trying to take down a capable party using guerrilla tactics, the last thing I would want is somebody like me, who can easily guess my next move.
Rich has said clearly that he cares more about telling a good story than he does about faithfully recreating actual, optimal 3.5e combat. Even if you think Haley could do "precious little" against Serini, there are valid story and character reasons for her to be a potential target here.Last edited by Ionathus; 2021-06-23 at 11:38 AM.
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2021-06-23, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's no such thing as too much faith in the Meta!
As OotS has demonstrated numerous times, raw power is not the end-all-be-all, and Haley has shown her value to the team in "thinking like a rogue" more than once. If I was an Epic-level rogue trying to take down a capable party using guerrilla tactics, the last thing I would want is somebody like me, who can easily guess my next move.
Rich has said clearly that he cares more about telling a good story than he does about faithfully recreating actual, optimal 3.5e combat. Even if you think Haley could do "precious little" against Serini, there are valid story and character reasons for her to be a potential target here.
(And a last little parenthetical remark: if one is a rogue and is afraid of getting predictable, one should stop thinking like a rogue.)
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2021-06-23, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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I practically tripped across this one, despite having thought for a while that Serini needs to take out Haley first: If Serini's been watching, she has less motivation to do so. Her epic "thinking like a rogue" left Haley flat-footed.
Haley erroneously assumes there's no shell game in play back in panels 3/4 of 1198. Which is understandable, since she's only thinking about the rest of the chasm being "the ball". But despite learning about the portals -- and Belkar pointing out they may be in "the real dungeon, then? The one with the Gate thing?" (panel 1) -- she doesn't revisit her assumptions, and she's the first one to say they should use the portals to ambush Xykon (panel 6)... giving away the location of the ball, unless they achieve TPK (on Team Evil, that is).Last edited by arimareiji; 2021-06-23 at 06:31 PM.
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2021-06-24, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Looks like I did not predict the Sea of Holes redux in 1137.
I predict that, in 1138, Haley gets held/attacked/trapped/zapped by Serini.Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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2021-06-24, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Haley wait, stop, just because I predicted you'd be top of Serini's hit list doesn't mean you have to willingly deliver yourself to her!
Anyway 1238: Haley (with Elan) gets separated from the group.
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2021-06-24, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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1238: Roy, Durkon, V, Belkar and Minrah are attacked.
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2021-06-28, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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1239: Elan casts Neutralize Poison (in your face, Serini!).
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2021-06-28, 08:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2021-06-28, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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1239: Haley is doomed because of some Elan related reason.
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2021-06-28, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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1239 (massive long shot but hey, it’s fun): Serini takes out the rest of the order except for Belkar who escapes and runs out, right into Team Evil or the MiTD.
Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2021-06-28, 11:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Welp, I should've had the courage of my convictions and stuck with my prediction from awhile back, that Serini would spend her first attack trying to take out Roy. I still think this will be an opportunity to show how much they've grown, that even without their leader the order is still capable of holding together! That'd be a nice payoff given DStP and Roy's "getting drunk and botching the rousing speech" at the end of last book.
1238: The Order fights back, and gives Sunny a black eye (har har). They're having trouble with the antimagic, and Belkar remembers that Bloodfeast hasn't always been a ferocious little lizard...
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2021-06-28, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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