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    I mean, it's still not wrong. Not to split hairs, but Serini would be in a much worse position if she was also in the antimagic field right now. Her invisibility and probably a couple of buffs are doing a lot of work for her here. "Shutting down their magic and not mine" is kinda cheating and also kinda goes against the spirit of the original prediction.
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    And my 100% rating remains intact!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionathus View Post
    I mean, it's still not wrong. Not to split hairs, but Serini would be in a much worse position if she was also in the antimagic field right now. Her invisibility and probably a couple of buffs are doing a lot of work for her here. "Shutting down their magic and not mine" is kinda cheating and also kinda goes against the spirit of the original prediction.
    In the original prediction, I never said anything about Serini's magic. Only the Orders. I wasn't sure of the rules of AMF, but figured Serini had a way to shut down magic in an area where she isn't.
    Which she did. Admittedly I'd forgotten about the Beholders AMF eye, and that beholder prediction was kind of a joke. If I'd been slightly smarter, I could've unified both predictions into a single hypothesis.
    And *then* I'd have been insufferable XD

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    Got it, thanks for clarifying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    In the original prediction, I never said anything about Serini's magic. Only the Orders. I wasn't sure of the rules of AMF, but figured Serini had a way to shut down magic in an area where she isn't.
    Which she did. Admittedly I'd forgotten about the Beholders AMF eye, and that beholder prediction was kind of a joke. If I'd been slightly smarter, I could've unified both predictions into a single hypothesis.
    And *then* I'd have been insufferable XD
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    I predict V will convince Belkar to take out Bloodfeasf, since the anti-magic vision I think would cancel Baleful Polymorph and distract Sunny enough for Elan to cure Roy of the poison.

    Also, Belkar somehow managing to get Sunny to change sides because Belkar May be... Belkar, But Belkar is still a Ranger

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountDVB View Post
    I predict V will convince Belkar to take out Bloodfeasf, since the anti-magic vision I think would cancel Baleful Polymorph and distract Sunny enough for Elan to cure Roy of the poison.
    And the magic bag still works in the anti-magic field?
    Quote Originally Posted by CountDVB View Post
    Also, Belkar somehow managing to get Sunny to change sides because Belkar May be... Belkar, But Belkar is still a Ranger
    What does being a Ranger have to do with the beholder?
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    I was going to answer the Belkar Ranger question with 'he took an up-until-now-unmentioned ACF to let him make Wild Empathy checks against-" then hit a brick wall. What are Beholders? Aberrations? Magical Beasts? Native Outsiders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    I was going to answer the Belkar Ranger question with 'he took an up-until-now-unmentioned ACF to let him make Wild Empathy checks against-" then hit a brick wall. What are Beholders?
    Aberrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    Aberrations.
    Pretty sure Aberration Wild Empathy is available somewhere (Dungeon Delver maybe?), though I think there's an intelligence cap to stop rangers schmoozing the Mind Flayers.
    Mind Flayer: now to insert a tadpole into his brain!
    Ranger: I totally get how that feels bro
    Mind Flayer: Y-you do? *single illithid tear* I thought no one would understand meeeee
    Ranger: dude it's OK just let it all out
    However in lieu of an ACF, presumably Belkar would have similar success with Sunny by just being nice to him. Wild Empathy gets kinda odd when it deals with intelligent creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountDVB View Post
    Belkar somehow managing to get Sunny to change sides because Belkar May be... Belkar, But Belkar is still a Ranger
    Is Serini definitely not a ranger? Because if she is, she ought to outrank Belkar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    Is Serini definitely not a ranger? Because if she is, she ought to outrank Belkar.
    If her apparent number of ranks in UMD is anything to go by, I'd say she's definitely not a ranger, or, at any rate, does not have a number of ranger levels even remotely comparable to Belkar's (unless of course she's suddenly level 40 or something too, but that seems… unlikely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    If her apparent number of ranks in UMD is anything to go by, I'd say she's definitely not a ranger, or, at any rate, does not have a number of ranger levels even remotely comparable to Belkar's (unless of course she's suddenly level 40 or something too, but that seems… unlikely).
    How many ranger levels does Belkar have? I remember him being not good at tracking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    How many ranger levels does Belkar have? I remember him being not good at tracking.
    According to the geekery thread, 14(+?). At any rate, unlike Wild Empathy tracking is skill-based and not level-based.

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    Anyone can make a wild empathy check against a beholder. It's called a charisma check (or any of the charisma based skill checks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Anyone can make a wild empathy check against a beholder. It's called a charisma check (or any of the charisma based skill checks).
    It's not a wild empathy check if you don't get to add your level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Pretty sure Aberration Wild Empathy is available somewhere (Dungeon Delver maybe?), though I think there's an intelligence cap to stop rangers schmoozing the Mind Flayers.
    Mind Flayer: now to insert a tadpole into his brain!
    Ranger: I totally get how that feels bro
    Mind Flayer: Y-you do? *single illithid tear* I thought no one would understand meeeee
    Ranger: dude it's OK just let it all out
    However in lieu of an ACF, presumably Belkar would have similar success with Sunny by just being nice to him. Wild Empathy gets kinda odd when it deals with intelligent creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    And my 100% rating remains intact!
    I’m giving myself a 50% success rate, since I predicted a pineapple and beholders look like pineapples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    It's not a wild empathy check if you don't get to add your level.
    You can add your level but the beholder gets an equal raise to its DC.
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    I'll toss a boring prediction on the pile: The hammer of thunderbolts smacks Sunny in the eye.
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    I've always wondered what happens when an anti-magic field overlaps another anti-magic field. But now, more specifically, what happens to a beholder in an antimagic field?

    It's too bad that Belkar doesn't carry a mirror as a symbol of halfling verility. Does Vaarsuvius know Gaze Reflection?

    That's my prediction: someone uses a mirror on the beholder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    I've always wondered what happens when an anti-magic field overlaps another anti-magic field.
    My guess is "not magic".
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    I've always wondered what happens when an anti-magic field overlaps another anti-magic field. But now, more specifically, what happens to a beholder in an antimagic field?
    Aww geez, we're gonna have to have a talk.
    Brian, when a daddy beholder and a mummy beholder behold each other very much...

    Next strip prediction;
    *Elan throws rose at Sunnys eye*
    *Rose bounces off ineffectually*
    Elan: awww man was any part of that cartoon true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Next strip prediction;
    *Elan throws rose at Sunnys eye*
    *Rose bounces off ineffectually*
    Elan: awww man was any part of that cartoon true?
    What?67890
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    But now, more specifically, what happens to a beholder in an antimagic field?
    Well, the eye rays are Su and I bet so is the flight…

    It's too bad that Belkar doesn't carry a mirror as a symbol of halfling verility. Does Vaarsuvius know Gaze Reflection?

    That's my prediction: someone uses a mirror on the beholder.
    And that's where it gets tricky. Antimagic cone is Su, so IF an antimagic cone can be simply reflected (which I doubt), it would shut itself down immediately, whereupon the cone would automatically activate and shut itself down again which would reactivate it and so on and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Aww geez, we're gonna have to have a talk.
    Brian, when a daddy beholder and a mummy beholder behold each other very much...

    Next strip prediction;
    *Elan throws rose at Sunnys eye*
    *Rose bounces off ineffectually*
    Elan: awww man was any part of that cartoon true?
    How could Elan see any of it to know where to throw or to know it didn't work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    What?
    I don't remember much about the D&D cartoon from the 80s, but I'm pretty sure that's how they beat the beholder. (because 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and even as a kid I called bs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    I don't remember much about the D&D cartoon from the 80s, but I'm pretty sure that's how they beat the beholder. (because 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and even as a kid I called bs)
    They had a low-level party up against tiamat int he first episode, and then a near-epix sorcerer lixb (IIRC he was level 18?the DVD box set I got had em all stated out). I buy them doing shenanigans like a rose, even if I don't remember that. Dungeon Master would have totally allowed it.
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    It's beginning to look as if 1242 will be a talky strip.
    The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    It's beginning to look as if 1242 will be a talky strip.
    Back to the old problem of talky man talkie too much
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