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    So don't do it poorly.
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    Which will attract dragons (who are attracted by wealth).
    I feel personally attacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I feel personally attacked.
    I think the best reason why dragons hoard wealth I saw was in the comic book Raghnarok. Raghnarok (a dragon child) goes to visit his grandmother and spots a human fleeing with a bag full of gold.
    Raghnarok: Nana, nana! I just saw a hman escape with your gold!
    Grandmother: I saw him, what, do you think I'm blind?
    R: And you're just going to leat him get away with it?
    G: It's just the one human, it's not worth the exercise. Besides, I've got plenty of gold left.
    R: But, think! Once the humans know you're just letting them take your gold, they'll come by dozens and -
    R: *Realization*
    *Cut to later as dozens of human mindlessly rush inside Grandmother's lair while chanting "gold" repeatedly*
    R: You did it on purpose! That was a lure!
    G: *Licking her lips, with a towel tied around her neck* Call it an investment.
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    Exactly! The white guy is like ďOh, wait a second partner! I admit I knew it would happen, and I knew I would benefit from it, and I did nothing to stop it.Ē
    Panel 11, "We didn't really plan it that way on purpose...but I guess we didn't really prevent it, either."
    So Thor does not admit that he knew it would happen or that he knew he would benefit from it, only that he did nothing to stop it because it never crossed his mind.

    ďBut itís just so pejorative for you to say I share in the responsibility. And letís try keep the focus on whatís important here. Whatís important is the rude way you phrased it. ď
    Redcloak does not say that the gods share in the responsibility, he says it's entirely their fault because they did it on purpose, which again, they didn't do it on purpose and is the only thing Thor is defending. Not if he shares in the blame, but if it was an intentional move on his part against the goblins. Why blame him for something he didn't do (intentionally **** over goblins), and when it's perfectly fair to blame him for something he did do, that he doesn't even deny (**** over goblins through negligence)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    I think the best reason why dragons hoard wealth I saw was in the comic book Raghnarok. Raghnarok (a dragon child) goes to visit his grandmother and spots a human fleeing with a bag full of gold.
    Raghnarok: Nana, nana! I just saw a hman escape with your gold!
    Grandmother: I saw him, what, do you think I'm blind?
    R: And you're just going to leat him get away with it?
    G: It's just the one human, it's not worth the exercise. Besides, I've got plenty of gold left.
    R: But, think! Once the humans know you're just letting them take your gold, they'll come by dozens and -
    R: *Realization*
    *Cut to later as dozens of human mindlessly rush inside Grandmother's lair while chanting "gold" repeatedly*
    R: You did it on purpose! That was a lure!
    G: *Licking her lips, with a towel tied around her neck* Call it an investment.
    This idea occurs in "The hoard of the Gibbelins" by Lord Dunsany, the Gibbelins probably aren't dragons (they live together for one). There may be something earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I feel personally attacked.
    1. Given that I mentioned blue, not silver, not getting this.
    2. It's canon. (Unless you never played D&D)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomReader View Post
    Panel 11, "We didn't really plan it that way on purpose...but I guess we didn't really prevent it, either."
    So Thor does not admit that he knew it would happen or that he knew he would benefit from it, only that he did nothing to stop it because it never crossed his mind.
    You are right. Iíve probably gone overboard here.

    Regardless, Thor doesnít deny what Durkon says. Thor adds more nuance, and itís clear that he views the situation as more negligence than malice.

    But at the end of the day, creating an ecosystem where everyone harvests xp really was the goal. And it didnít bother any of the gods that the goblins found themselves in an undesirable niche in that ecosystem.

    I know if I found myself in the goblin slot of that ecosystem, and if I found out the ecosystem was essentially designed that way, I would be pissed.

    Probably not burn the world down and kill the gods pissed, but Iíve never had big goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    1. Given that I mentioned blue, not silver, not getting this.
    2. It's canon. (Unless you never played D&D)
    Yes, but I think I'm funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    You are right. Iíve probably gone overboard here.

    Regardless, Thor doesnít deny what Durkon says. Thor adds more nuance, and itís clear that he views the situation as more negligence than malice.

    But at the end of the day, creating an ecosystem where everyone harvests xp really was the goal. And it didnít bother any of the gods that the goblins found themselves in an undesirable niche in that ecosystem.

    I know if I found myself in the goblin slot of that ecosystem, and if I found out the ecosystem was essentially designed that way, I would be pissed.

    Probably not burn the world down and kill the gods pissed, but Iíve never had big goals.
    When the only reason you refrain from mass deicide is that it's too ambitious for your tastes.

    But yeah, I feel like Redcloak's main point still stands. The gods might not have created goblins with the explicit intention of turning them into XP bags, but by Thor's own admission they didn't do anything to prevent the formation of an ecosystem where a sapient race is treated as a resource by the rest.

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    Yes, but I think I'm funny.
    Heh, I often crack a joke that amuses me, and my wife will give me the old
    "I am glad that you can crack yourself up, since I don't find that funny"
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    Heh, I often crack a joke that amuses me, and my wife will give me the old
    "I am glad that you can crack yourself up, since I don't find that funny"
    thing.
    Aah, married bliss.
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    (2) dark chocolate is always an appropriate gift for every occasion.
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    This is a profound truth of life.
    What if the occasion is "too much dark chocolate"?
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    What if the occasion is "too much dark chocolate"?
    Clearly you should give it away until that's no longer an issue then
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    What if the occasion is "too much dark chocolate"?
    If you ever experience that problem, then I'll be happy to take the excess off your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Coyote View Post
    Specifically they say "He's supposed to be jolly," and the assumption is that it refers to the halfling race because of how halflings are portrayed in other, non-oots media.

    I think it'd be interesting if they were originally designed to be a jolly wholesome race but, having free will, this did not in fact make them "a jolly race." Not that jolliness has much to do with good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    "Awwwww, the jowwy widdle hawfwing wuvs his widdle cat! How cute!"
    That is a stronger indication that it's connected in some way to the halfling race.

    But, it might not be connected because it's true, and jolly still doesn't mean good.

    By RAW, halflings are Usually Neutral, but an evil character can have just as high spirits. Belkar isn't un-jolly because he does murder, he's un-jolly because he does murder because he's angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Coyote View Post
    That is a stronger indication that it's connected in some way to the halfling race.

    But, it might not be connected because it's true, and jolly still doesn't mean good.

    By RAW, halflings are Usually Neutral, but an evil character can have just as high spirits. Belkar isn't un-jolly because he does murder, he's un-jolly because he does murder because he's angry.
    I can't see any reason why that guard would have referred to Belkar as "jolly" in connection with any observations of the latter. Sarcasm, perhaps, but for that to make sense, it would have to play against a normal expectation of being jolly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    I can't see any reason why that guard would have referred to Belkar as "jolly" in connection with any observations of the latter. Sarcasm, perhaps, but for that to make sense, it would have to play against a normal expectation of being jolly.
    I actually agree that it's more likely that it's to do with perceptions of the halfling race, since otherwise it's just coincidence that the guard happened to choose that particular word, which isn't common elsewhere. Also, I already agreed with the assumption that it was about all halflings.

    I said stronger indication because it is theoretically possible that it was a coincidence, since the guard is clearly doing a baby talk mocking of Belkar. He's not particularly cute based on observation either. (In this sense, anyway, he's apparently fairly charismatic.)

    It's not really important though because everything else I said was assuming it's true that there is a perception of halflings as jolly.

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