Berserk (manga) [RIP Miura Kentarou]

[Rynjin]

Let me put an asterisk on that; it was updating pretty consistently last I read it (the couple of chapters that blue ball you on whether Casca is actually okay, plus the one afterward) but that was a while ago. My brother still brings it up regularly, so I assumed it was still getting updates regularly.

[Tvtyrant]

Let me put an asterisk on that; it was updating pretty consistently last I read it (the couple of chapters that blue ball you on whether Casca is actually okay, plus the one afterward) but that was a while ago. My brother still brings it up regularly, so I assumed it was still getting updates regularly.

At least it is not HunterXHunter, Kurapika has been on a boat for like 5 years.

[Anteros]

Also not sure what your beef is with the Dresden Files update schedule; Jim Butcher releases books at a fairly fast clip. Unless you just mean it has no end in sight? Serialized, episodic, ongoing?

He went about 6 years between books before churning the last 2 out in rapid succession. It just worries me that he's lost the passion for finishing them. I've invested in so many series that the author's never end that I just would rather avoid works when there seems to be a good chance they'll fall off.

[Rynjin]

He went about 6 years between books before churning the last 2 out in rapid succession. It just worries me that he's lost the passion for finishing them. I've invested in so many series that the author's never end that I just would rather avoid works when there seems to be a good chance they'll fall off.

From what I'm aware, he took a bit of a break from writing in general because he was going through a pretty bad divorce.

He has a specific number of books planned for the series (22), so there's that.

[danzibr]

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Huh, did some googling, I always assumed the so-called Moonlight Boy was the same as the so-called Demon Child. Internet seems to think this isn't necessarily the case.

Anyway, Griffith takes physical form through the Demon Child iirc. Kinda like how Slan had to appear through a bunch of bio junk, can't just use their normal demon body in the human world.

But if so... then with Moonlight Boy on Elf Island, maybe Griffith can just appear there. Griffith's currently "using" Demon Child body, right?

Or maybe Moonlight Boy =/= Demon Child after all.

[GloatingSwine]

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Huh, did some googling, I always assumed the so-called Moonlight Boy was the same as the so-called Demon Child. Internet seems to think this isn't necessarily the case.

Anyway, Griffith takes physical form through the Demon Child iirc. Kinda like how Slan had to appear through a bunch of bio junk, can't just use their normal demon body in the human world.

But if so... then with Moonlight Boy on Elf Island, maybe Griffith can just appear there. Griffith's currently "using" Demon Child body, right?

Or maybe Moonlight Boy =/= Demon Child after all.

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I'm not sure we can conclusively say how the Moonlight Boy relates to Griffith or the Demon Child. Moonlight Boy only appears during a full moon so it is more likely an astral presence rather than a physical one like the Demon Child was.

I expect Griffith can go to Skellig, but he'd do it by travelling the branches of the world tree, which is what he was off doing when we last saw him.

[Junnix]

The best Manga ever! I just started to catch up. I didn't mind to read some of the spoils 'cause it motivated me to continue reading it.

[Callos_DeTerran]

The biggest shame about Berserk is that it never got an anime adaptation. If you point to Berserk 2016, I'll note, that's not an anime adaptation, it's a CGI abomination. Old Berserk anime doesn't count either, since it ends at bleakest, darkest Berserk chapter it could end.

It'd be kind of hard to do right now. The 1998 anime looks great but it also ends at the bleakest chapter. So do the Netflix movies that honestly aren't that bad! ...And the only one that continues the story past that? Doesn't count. Its awful, low budget garbage.

As it stands, they'd be better off waiting until Berserk ends..or is much closer to it before they adapt it.

[Anonymouswizard]

As it stands, they'd be better off waiting until Berserk ends..or is much closer to it before they adapt it.

I mean, they could keep pace with the Manga, but I'm not sure people would enjoy one new episode a year.

[Lurkmoar]

Just heard the news.

Kentaro Miura, the mangaka for Berserk passed away.

Strangely, one of the inspirations for Berserk, Guin Saga ended up the same way, with the author passing before finishing the story. Gah.

[ben-zayb]

I haven't read Berserk myself but I've always heard great things about Kentaro Miura as a mangaka. RIP.

[Cypher5]

Utterly soul crushing news. My condolences to his family.


...Berserk is such a foundational part of my creative self, one of the very first times I got into a manga series with the intention to read from start to finish. It was on of the things about manga that made me fall in love with manga in middle school, god just typing that made me realize I have been a fan for decades. I love really this series; from the characters, art work, themes to even the world building. I don't think there is really anything I could honestly say I didn't like about it...........it is a masterpiece of its medium

I will never forget what Guts means to me, never forget. Kentaro Miura you were a legend.


.......what I wouldn't give for a crimson beherit right now

[-D-]

Ugh. This hurts right in the heart.

[Razade]

That is a huge bummer. Only 54, that's super young. Acute aortic dissection is pretty rare, and insanely lethal. 40% of people who get them just die on the spot, before anything can really be done. 20% of the people who make it to a hospital don't make it. Life is fragile. Hug someone you love.

[Anteros]

Such a shame too because it's usually treatable if you detect the aneurysm before it ruptures, but incredibly deadly if you don't. My specialty is vascular and transplant and we do a ton of these repairs.

Berserk aside, it's always a tragedy when we lose anyone. Especially so young. My thoughts go out to his family.

[-D-]

That is a huge bummer. Only 54, that's super young.

Young? At 50 I'd say he's well into his middle age.

[Razade]

Young? At 50 I'd say he's well into his middle age.

Are you really, seriously, going to argue over and be pedantic about this with someone? I meant that 54 is young relative to the average age to die, not young in the general timeline of their lifespan. The average life expectancy of a Japanese Male is 84 years. I'd say that dying 30 years before the average is dying young. Seriously.

[Yanagi]

Damn.

There's not a manga artist I respected more, nor a story I was more invested in.

That's not really adequate: I was invested in Berserk because for all of its fantastic elements it had this emotional reality about trauma and suffering that impacted my life at exactly the right time, and it felt relevant and powerful. The slow, sometimes melancholy rising action of the story really spoke to me.

[Callos_DeTerran]

..Well this sucks. :( I came on late to the Berserk train and haven't even read all or most of the manga yet but even then...I've heard nothing but good things about the man, his art, and his story. Like this manga helped to DEFINE stories that came after it, not just similar stories but the medium as a whole with a guy that poured his everything into his art.

I hope that he rests well knowing he's touched so many lives.

[AntiAuthority]

This made my day sad. Sadly, his story will never be finished. Some of my favorite pieces of fiction and tropes were inspired by Berserk. At least he made an impact on countless lives and did what he loved. The world lost an amazing creator and at such a young age.

[-D-]

Are you really, seriously, going to argue over and be pedantic about this with someone?

No. Especially not in this thread. I just find the position that 50 years is young preplexing.

[danzibr]

I feel defeated. RIP Miura.

[Prime32]

Crunchyroll posted their tribute


A lot of people are sharing this conversation from chapter 360.

You bear witness to the end of your journey. It is not always a happy thing.

Is it too late to edit the thread title to reflect Miura's passing?

[Callos_DeTerran]

A lot of people are sharing this conversation from chapter 360.

I prefer this quote.

"He died doing what he wanted, no matter what, right? I bet he was happy."

I feel its more true and optimistic.

[Blackhawk748]

Well... we joked about this happening, but that was more cuz we figured he'd finish in a decade or so, not that an aneurysm would get him. Its a shame because he really was a wonderful author and artist and Berserk is as foundational to modern anime and Manga as Dragonball Z was.

I haven't heard anything, but perhaps a Wheel of Time moment could happen? Did he have any close work partners or anyone else who would be privy to his notes?

[Callos_DeTerran]

I haven't heard anything, but perhaps a Wheel of Time moment could happen? Did he have any close work partners or anyone else who would be privy to his notes?

My understanding is that this is a big no no in manga culture. Unless an author/artist specifically told someone 'hey, continue my story if something happens to me' like an apprentice or such, its considered incredibly disrespectful to continue a mangaka's work after their passing.

Best case scenario is he did do that, but the most people should hope for is his crew revealing what was supposed to happen in the story maybe with some sketches to provide closure, but not a full on continuation. That's pure best case scenario.

[Blackhawk748]

My understanding is that this is a big no no in manga culture. Unless an author/artist specifically told someone 'hey, continue my story if something happens to me' like an apprentice or such, its considered incredibly disrespectful to continue a mangaka's work after their passing.

Best case scenario is he did do that, but the most people should hope for is his crew revealing what was supposed to happen in the story maybe with some sketches to provide closure, but not a full on continuation. That's pure best case scenario.

Well that kinda happened with WoT, with Sanderson having the blessing on Jordan's wife (who was also his editor iirc) and I believe was a personal friend? I don't recall the details.

And I'd be ok with just getting the solid outline of what would happen, just so we can know. It's the man's crowning work and for the story to just end without all of us fans knowing the conclusion would kind of suck.

[Prime32]

I haven't heard anything, but perhaps a Wheel of Time moment could happen? Did he have any close work partners or anyone else who would be privy to his notes?

AFAIK he had an unusual legal arrangement with his publishers, going through a personal studio (Studio Gaga) which he founded so that he could hire assistants for longer hours and higher wages than standard. He was also training them to mimic his style (the manga Duranki was practice for this). It's conceivable that they could finish it for him, though I wouldn't expect any news on that front for a while.

[Callos_DeTerran]

Well that kinda happened with WoT, with Sanderson having the blessing on Jordan's wife (who was also his editor iirc) and I believe was a personal friend? I don't recall the details.

And I'd be ok with just getting the solid outline of what would happen, just so we can know. It's the man's crowning work and for the story to just end without all of us fans knowing the conclusion would kind of suck.

Different cultures, different expectations. Everything I've been hearing is that with his passing, it is incredibly unlikely that Berserk continues on with new volumes and chapters. And even if someone wanted to, Miura's family would be very unlikely to let it happen.

Like I said..the best we can expect for is they might release an outline with the absolute utopian case scenario is his apprentices and staff trying to end the story themselves with the permission of his family.

Its simply a case where manga authors need to finish their stories before this point because people don't just finish someone else's story. I'd honestly prefer that personally even if it would suck not knowing what was going to happen. This isn't like comic books where the story is never meant to end so passing a character on to someone else is the norm.

[danzibr]

Is it too late to edit the thread title to reflect Miura's passing?

I'll do what I can.

Also... if Berserk does go the way of WoT... personally, I'd rather Berserk go unfinished than it be finished with a plummet in quality.