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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    One-off weird customers are a long and storied tradition in this café.
    Not as many lasting comedic potential as Jeremy Gordon Gary tho


    edit: I meant Gordon. The Spider Bot.

    edit 2: Goddamnit I meant Gary apparently
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    Me, I'm expecting a 2001 joke any minute.
    Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.

    "The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud

    "Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee

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    Have to admit: The minilith hasn't made cringeworthy Public Service Announcements, hasn't interjected itself into someone else's private conversation, isn't an obnoxious shade of pastel, doesn't have spectacles clipping through it's nose, hasn't assaulted someone as a punchline or used mental illness as throw-away gimmick....

    Insofar as new character introductions go, I'm on board. 10/10; all hail, friend minilith.
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    They should play music at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidSh View Post
    If the humming slab doesn't have some method of communicating payment, it isn't a customer. Otherwise one question is, are the prices at CoD all distinct? If so, it make make payment, and expect the corresponding drink. I'm not sure we can answer that with certainty -- they have sold drinks not on the chalkboard menu that we see.
    I might still serve an ominous humming slab even if it didn't pay me, just to get it to go away.

    Which would be pretty funny if it was a slightly more forward-thinking mildly-malicious AI than May, one who decided to choose their physical form purely so it could scam innocent businesses and it can actually communicate perfectly well but chooses not to.

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    I suppose the joke is on us for complaining about the myriad rainbow-colored humanoid robot bodies.

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    I dunno. I like the minilith. They are a breath of fresh air.

    Figuratively speaking at least. I'm not sure they have any functioning lungs.

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    I'm a fan of these recent scenes - yoga and particularly Coffee of Doom.

    Feels like a partial throwback to the style/settings/characters of earlier QC, and I enjoy(ed) that much more than most of the pastel-android era. A hovering monolith that apparently wants to buy coffee, sans explanation, wouldn't have raised many eyebrows circa. strip 1500 and the comic was better for it.

    Semi-realistic interpersonal plots with quirky interruptions out of left field, rather than Big Societal Issue plots conveyed through tortured metaphors about robots. Not that I have an issue with such plots in general, but Jeph's style of writing them doesn't work for me.
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    As is usually the case with vtubers, I have learned something about them that is a) because of QC and b) mostly against my will. The two robots in Panel 1 of today's comic aren't just random anime-esque AIs, they're cameos. Apparently their names are Kroneii and Mumei, both are VTubers from something called Hololive Productions. It's a Japanese company that manages ~50 vtubers as a sort of Machinima-style collaborative agency (Wow, check out that early-2000's reference!)

    I... don't think that Jeph is allowed to do that? I haven't looked into it - I'm deeply, deeply fatigued by this vtuber nonsense - but Reddit has very quickly found Hololive's fan-work policy, which explicitly states that you're not allowed to use their images in for-profit works, or as product of a business (which QC absolutely is, Jeph even made a comic about it). IANAL and all, but it feels like he's skating a very fine line between homage and IP infringement, and if it comes down to it, he won't be the one who gets to decide which it is....
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    "...flower..."? I don't get the tag line on today's comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    As is usually the case with vtubers, I have learned something about them that is a) because of QC and b) mostly against my will. The two robots in Panel 1 of today's comic aren't just random anime-esque AIs, they're cameos. Apparently their names are Kroneii and Mumei, both are VTubers from something called Hololive Productions. It's a Japanese company that manages ~50 vtubers as a sort of Machinima-style collaborative agency (Wow, check out that early-2000's reference!)

    I... don't think that Jeph is allowed to do that? I haven't looked into it - I'm deeply, deeply fatigued by this vtuber nonsense - but Reddit has very quickly found Hololive's fan-work policy, which explicitly states that you're not allowed to use their images in for-profit works, or as product of a business (which QC absolutely is, Jeph even made a comic about it). IANAL and all, but it feels like he's skating a very fine line between homage and IP infringement, and if it comes down to it, he won't be the one who gets to decide which it is....
    I'm not fussed about a lot of the things people complain about here but "jeph suddenly becomes really into vtubers and suddenly two characters are vtubers and others are the wierdest cameos ever" is intensely irritating to me.
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    I doubt that showing those two vtubers can be a problem. If anything, it looks like a net gain for them: I have now read the names of two people I had never heard of before, and all QC readers have been exposed to their likeness. The very online will talk about it, and I guess it's an important audience for vtubers. (to tell the truth, I wouldn't be too surprised if they had paid for such a spot: it's a select audience of what, hundreds of thousands?)

    In general, it's rare to forbid the reproduction of someone's likeness in a comic. The one case I can think of was when an actress didn't wish to be associated with a certain comic because of other contents.

    It's a bit more complicated with character designs. Those have actual copyrights associated with them, and, sometimes, they are registered as logos. So a copyright owner could sue anyone who uses his design just do discourage its use, and request monetary compensation. I could see it with a logo (the damage consists in diluting the association of the logo to its owner), but a lot less with something of this sort. It's not a parody, but it still looks like an admirer's innocuous shout-out.
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    I thought Tom Bombadil dreadful — but worse still was the announcer's preliminary remarks that Goldberry was his daughter (!), and that Willowman was an ally of Mordor (!!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidSh View Post
    "...flower..."? I don't get the tag line on today's comic.
    The name of another vtuber, I believe? Or a catchphrase that one of the two uses? Something like that, I don't care to look it up again. He's evidently spent some time watching them, at least long enough to pick up the in-jokes and memes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    I doubt that showing those two vtubers can be a problem. If anything, it looks like a net gain for them: I have now read the names of two people I had never heard of before, and all QC readers have been exposed to their likeness. The very online will talk about it, and I guess it's an important audience for vtubers. (to tell the truth, I wouldn't be too surprised if they had paid for such a spot: it's a select audience of what, hundreds of thousands?)
    Absolutely, I wasn't trying to suggest that Jeph should be DMCA'd and his comic brought down over a cameo, nothing at all like that. It's harmless fanwanking, as far as I know. It's just that webcomics are very different now to what they were in 2005, and big brands are more keen to defend their imagery than ever. Hell, Penny Arcade got slapped with a C&D in *2003* for a comic about a children's toy, that the creators decided to defend, and this was back in the wild west of the internet when Fair Use and all the rest of it was far more open ended and untested. Doing it today feels very risky, and "I'm such a small-time creator that I didn't think you would find out" isn't the defence that it used to be

    I could see it with a logo (the damage consists in diluting the association of the logo to its owner), but a lot less with something of this sort.
    Like I said above, Hololive have a publicly available policy about fan-work, and it says that you're not allowed to use their images to make money as a business. It's quite unambiguous, and just a matter of whether or not they decide to do anything about it rather than whether or not they should be in QC at all.
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    It's probably worth mentioning that time JJ made international news for similar reasons and a horse: https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-horse-website
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    Hell, Penny Arcade got slapped with a C&D in *2003* for a comic about a children's toy, that the creators decided to defend, and this was back in the wild west of the internet when Fair Use and all the rest of it was far more open ended and untested.
    I think there's a pretty big gulf of likelihood-of-legal-action between "Vtubers strolling through background" and "Strawberry Shortcake sadomasochistic pseudo-erotica".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFlipp View Post
    I think there's a pretty big gulf of likelihood-of-legal-action between "Vtubers strolling through background" and "Strawberry Shortcake sadomasochistic pseudo-erotica".
    Yeah, this does seem a little closer to borrowing Something Positive characters.

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