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    Dangit, we lost the last non-standard robot of the cast.
    Yeah, so much for visual diversity. I won't touch the financial speculation, but if this sticks, I'd consider it a detriment.

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    Yeah, so much for visual diversity. I won't touch the financial speculation, but if this sticks, I'd consider it a detriment.
    Unless we get Spider Bot as a side character. Then it'd be a wash.
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    Unless we get Spider Bot as a side character. Then it'd be a wash.
    Gordon (Spiderbot) still exists. Nelson (The pinkish Pintsize-old-body lookalike that works at the nonprofit) still exists. Crushbot still exists. There are plenty of robot characters that aren't just funkily-colored humans. They just aren't part of the main cast. Whether Pintsize really counted as main cast at this point is debatable. Still, I'd have to agree that I don't immediately see a value in this (thing to which we've seen all of one strip dedicated).

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    Gordon (Spiderbot) still exists. Nelson (The pinkish Pintsize-old-body lookalike that works at the nonprofit) still exists. Crushbot still exists. There are plenty of robot characters that aren't just funkily-colored humans. They just aren't part of the main cast. Whether Pintsize really counted as main cast at this point is debatable. Still, I'd have to agree that I don't immediately see a value in this (thing to which we've seen all of one strip dedicated).
    Jeremy... and 07, was it? They're humanoid but clearly not human. Same with Punchbot.
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    I think that there can be value in this body-swap, if it's actually given some space in the strip. It would make Pintsize a lot easier to include in the various scenes, and body language would make him more expressive.

    The problem is that he's been far from the spotlight for a while, so I'm not sure that it will actually be given room to show.
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    I know it was well established long before this point, but man, the author really does have a type when it comes to men. "Pintsize becomes a twink" sounds like the kind of joke someone would have made if they were trying to parody QC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich View Post
    This development raises a rather important immediate question: how in the **** did he afford that? This is not an idle question either, since unless it is handled with extreme delicacy it is likely to absolutely torpedo May's whole storyline about struggling to afford a new body (though the recent Marigold developments already did some of that).
    So much for extreme delicacy, I guess.
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    At what point do Pintsize and 'extreme delicacy' even co-exist within the same time zone?

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    At what point do Pintsize and 'extreme delicacy' even co-exist within the same time zone?
    I was under impression that Mechalich's comment had Jeph in mind.
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    Oh hey look at that the author actually thought about his writing decisions and addressed them directly wow what a surprise. I'm starting to suspect Jeph Jacques may not be a dribbling buffoon with no understanding of his own story.

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    Oh hey look at that the author actually thought about his writing decisions and addressed them directly wow what a surprise. I'm starting to suspect Jeph Jacques may not be a dribbling buffoon with no understanding of his own story.
    How does the most recent comic address the decision? It leaves wide open the question of 'where did Pintsize get the money for a new body?'

    Pintsize does not have a job, he has never had a job. Now, this hasn't mattered because he's never needed money because the little anthroPC chassis he had was apparently comparatively robust and he never really needed more than the odd bit of loose cash to buy this or that (a $200 one-time expenditure is nothing, that's less than May's gross pay in a 2-day period). Somehow, without expending any perceptible effort he managed to do the exact same thing that took a heavy lift for the general comic community to provide for May.

    The fact that May doesn't care is completely irrelevant to the overall problem.
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    How does the most recent comic address the decision? It leaves wide open the question of 'where did Pintsize get the money for a new body?'

    Pintsize does not have a job, he has never had a job. Now, this hasn't mattered because he's never needed money because the little anthroPC chassis he had was apparently comparatively robust and he never really needed more than the odd bit of loose cash to buy this or that (a $200 one-time expenditure is nothing, that's less than May's gross pay in a 2-day period). Somehow, without expending any perceptible effort he managed to do the exact same thing that took a heavy lift for the general comic community to provide for May.

    The fact that May doesn't care is completely irrelevant to the overall problem.
    Pintsize has constantly been spending money, though less so recently as he became less of a character in the series. His mysterious funding has always been present as he blows money on everything from cosplay gear, to cake mix, to hand crafted giant metal dongs. This isnt something that only just now came up. He also has no bills that we are aware of. He lives with marten, presumably rent free, his body doesnt need constant repairs, and he can charge up whenever he needs to. He could literally be working an online part time minimum wage job and easily afford this with just a little saving up because his paycheck is all profit to him. Or be making regular payments on a more expensive purchase because, again, every dime he makes is profit so he could easily make monthly payments on garbage pay. And you know what? That would make sense. What else does he have to do all day that marten and company arent there other than plan his next bout of whacky hijinx? Just because he doesnt talk about what he does doesnt mean he doesnt do anything. And I dont feel like binging 6k comics to see if he ever mentioned taking part in those online ai gigs where you lend out processor power or whatever it was.

    Im just not sure why you chose to get hung up on this point. May was obvious, she couldnt afford a new body because she had to spend every dime she made maintaining her current one as it was falling apart on her and she also pays some sort of rent i think. Her whole reason for existing in the comic is to be jephs example of the unfairness of the criminal justice system due to the after effects of being incarcerated or however he might choose to phrase it. Also, I think the cost of a new ai body has been somewhat overblown because of how easy it is for others to get one. When momo got her new body, all she had to do was get a job at the library as an assistant and boom, problem solved, she could pay off marigold without issue or stress. The only reason there was any stress at all was that she was an unemployed companion ai and thus marigold was on the hook for an out of pocket expense that, again, she was able to afford shortly after realizing her friend wanted a new body. Yeah we had the "comedic" nosebleed reaction to the price tag but that was before momo got a job meaning that there was no issue for her to afford it, and even if momo DIDNT work marigold could have absorbed the cost. All that before she went burger oni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich
    The fact that May doesn't care is completely irrelevant to the overall problem.
    I kind of disagree. May's apparent U-turn on her opinion of AIs who conveniently appear out of nowhere with a brand new body at minimal effort undermines her previous actions, and also makes for a pretty abrupt decline in engagement with this arc.

    Winslow wanted a new body.
    Winslow got a new body.
    May wanted a new body.
    May couldn't have a new body.
    May bitched out Winslow for being privileged and not considering her feelings as a Has Not.

    Pintsize wanted a new body.
    Pintsize got a new body.
    May wanted a new body.
    May HAS a new body.
    May is cool with Pintsize because she got what she wanted and no longer covets what Pintsize now has.

    May is selfish and entitled, and almost certainly will not be called out on this. This arc is now centred on the wants and needs of two horrible characters who are intended by the author to be rude, unpleasant and irritating and I can't see a single problem with that as a concept for a story.
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    Pintsize's defining characteristics are:
    - is a robot
    - loves to gross out people
    - is constantly horny
    - has all of the fetishes, all of them (cf. point 2)

    My conclusion is that his money comes from Patreon for the dozens of Poser porn webcomics he most certainly does with all his idle processing power. There's clearly a massive audience for that because whenever I look at topwebcomics, it seems like half of them are Poser porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    May is selfish and entitled, and almost certainly will not be called out on this. This arc is now centred on the wants and needs of two horrible characters who are intended by the author to be rude, unpleasant and irritating and I can't see a single problem with that as a concept for a story.
    Wait, two? May and who else?

    If the other one's Pintsize, I think it unlikely that he'll be spending enough time in proximity to May, or Marigold for that matter, to qualify as having any arc "centered" on both him and May.

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    Pintsize has constantly been spending money, though less so recently as he became less of a character in the series. His mysterious funding has always been present as he blows money on everything from cosplay gear, to cake mix, to hand crafted giant metal dongs. This isnt something that only just now came up. He also has no bills that we are aware of. He lives with marten, presumably rent free, his body doesnt need constant repairs, and he can charge up whenever he needs to. He could literally be working an online part time minimum wage job and easily afford this with just a little saving up because his paycheck is all profit to him. Or be making regular payments on a more expensive purchase because, again, every dime he makes is profit so he could easily make monthly payments on garbage pay. And you know what? That would make sense. What else does he have to do all day that marten and company arent there other than plan his next bout of whacky hijinx? Just because he doesnt talk about what he does doesnt mean he doesnt do anything. And I dont feel like binging 6k comics to see if he ever mentioned taking part in those online ai gigs where you lend out processor power or whatever it was.
    When he commissioned Faye and Bubbles, he paid in cash, and I don't recall any instance in which we've seen him accept or issue electronic payment. It seems unlikely to me that his work is wholly remote.

    Also, as an aside, the mid-torso articulation seam (presumably meant to imitate the false ribs) of Pintsize's new body makes no sense.

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    If the other one's Pintsize, I think it unlikely that he'll be spending enough time in proximity to May, or Marigold for that matter, to qualify as having any arc "centered" on both him and May.
    Jeph has shown us that "an arc" can be 5 strip posted in 5 days that depicts 15 minutes of conversation and then never referred to again. See also: Willow Dragonfang, Dora and Tai planning their wedding, Sam taking up streaming....
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    Jeph has shown us that "an arc" can be 5 strip posted in 5 days that depicts 15 minutes of conversation and then never referred to again. See also: Willow Dragonfang, Dora and Tai planning their wedding, Sam taking up streaming....
    Definitely not us assuming that any given subject is gonna be the next big arc rather than a slice of life (however absurd) in a slice of life webcomic
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    If what you're calling an arc is that small, my advice is: Blink. When you're finished, the comic will no longer hinge on sympathy for Pintsize or May. (It will probably be focusing on Renee again, which is debatably an improvement but at least Renee is not a convicted felon.)

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    I would also say that short bits like Willow Dragonfang don't count as an arc.

    As I see it, there are roughly 4 main types in QC:

    1) Single day gags. A strip that is entirely self contained within a single day for the purpose of humor.

    2) Vignettes - short excursions that may or may not be referenced in future. They can last a week or even up to a month, but they aren't big sweeping stories. Sam taking up streaming is a perfect example of this - she's a tertiary character so we never see the result, nor do we need to. Going up to the space station would be another such vignette - it's fairly lengthy but almost entirely self-contained.

    3) Arc - longer storylines that can take place over weeks, months, even years. Most of the relationships qualify, as does Faye's time at the robot fight club. Arcs don't have to be contiguous either - Faye and Tai's wedding plans aren't a vignette, despite the strips focusing on them not lasting a week at a time. They're all part of an arc. Arcs often begin and/or end with a...

    4) World change. Faye leaving the coffee shop. Angus going to New York. Any change that fundamentally alters the makeup of the cast and is permanent. When Faye and Tai get married, that will be a world change.

    This is a scratched together list, but it will do for my point - I have no problem with Pintsize getting a body for a single day gag or a vignette. It's not one I would have written, but I don't mind it either. If he makes it permanent though...yeesh. All the problems listed here become much bigger. What's more, Pintsize's appearance is iconic. He's the webcomic's mascot. Changing how he looks to develop him as a different character is just...ugh.

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    I think that this could actually add variety -- I mean the fact that May doesn't adhere to the same standards as her college-educated friends who have never been in jail. May being sufficiently self-centered to get angry or happy based on her status, rather than on some absolute theoretical imperative, strikes me as very human, imperfect, and adequate for someone whose self-recognised personality trait is poor impulse control.

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    This comic is to me a decent reminder that now that Pintsize looks human, the patience for him being a horrible little troll will be non-existant. I'm expecting a lot of misery in his immediate future as he realizes he'll no longer be getting away with everything.
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    In-Universe-Time, Pintsize and Marten have lived together for.... What, 5 years or something? More? I think it's something like 5 to 7 years or something like that.

    Having lived with Marten for all that time, and with Faye, and with Dora, and with Bubbles, and being periphery to characters like Hannelore, and Marigold, and Angus, and May.... If Pintsize hasn't already worked out for himself that being humanoid and having humanoid responsibilities is bull**** and that anyone with half an iota of sense would refuse it if given the chance, then I have no sympathy for the little twerp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    In-Universe-Time, Pintsize and Marten have lived together for.... What, 5 years or something? More? I think it's something like 5 to 7 years or something like that.
    In-universe time seems to be the most wibbly-wobbly-ish part of the strip. Marten started the strip at ~23-26 and is now probably ~24-26. It's vaguely Simpsons time -- newly introduced characters are no longer new so some time has passed, and the current events/media references are always relatively up-to-date, but otherwise things seem to be in a temporal loop.

    Having lived with Marten for all that time, and with Faye, and with Dora, and with Bubbles, and being periphery to characters like Hannelore, and Marigold, and Angus, and May.... If Pintsize hasn't already worked out for himself that being humanoid and having humanoid responsibilities is bull**** and that anyone with half an iota of sense would refuse it if given the chance, then I have no sympathy for the little twerp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    In-universe time seems to be the most wibbly-wobbly-ish part of the strip. Marten started the strip at ~23-26 and is now probably ~24-26. It's vaguely Simpsons time -- newly introduced characters are no longer new so some time has passed, and the current events/media references are always relatively up-to-date, but otherwise things seem to be in a temporal loop.
    The worst offernder, IMO, is the storyline with the prototype boyfriend Station sent, before the singularity... followed much later in the comic by a flashback to martin getting pintsize, with humanoid AI running the store.

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    I think we can say a minimum of 3 years. We've had at least two timeskips into "it's winter now" territory and I'm pretty sure there was a separate timeskip for "Faye gets buff at the robot fight club". My personal headcanon puts it at closer to 5-6 years to account for various people having relationships.


    Meanwhile in Something Positive land we have the adopted daughter of two of the main characters having her first period. They got together years after the strip started and adopted said daughter as a baby. We've seen her grow older in roughly real time. It really puts into perspective how weird comic book time makes things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    I think we can say a minimum of 3 years. We've had at least two timeskips into "it's winter now" territory and I'm pretty sure there was a separate timeskip for "Faye gets buff at the robot fight club". My personal headcanon puts it at closer to 5-6 years to account for various people having relationships.


    Meanwhile in Something Positive land we have the adopted daughter of two of the main characters having her first period. They got together years after the strip started and adopted said daughter as a baby. We've seen her grow older in roughly real time. It really puts into perspective how weird comic book time makes things.
    I mean, a lot of it is unavoidable. Its just not POSSIBLE to keep up with real time when even updating every day can still take a week bare minimum to cover a single day in universe. Not without massive walls of text or chapter sized updates. Or frequent timeskips where the author pretends nothing happened for a week then picks back up one week later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    I mean, a lot of it is unavoidable. Its just not POSSIBLE to keep up with real time when even updating every day can still take a week bare minimum to cover a single day in universe. Not without massive walls of text or chapter sized updates. Or frequent timeskips where the author pretends nothing happened for a week then picks back up one week later.
    I think it can work if you assume that a given group only does X number of interesting things per year, and only show those stories. The newspaper comic For Better or For Worse advanced in real time, with varying length plot arcs where sometimes a month of real time publishing might have shown the events of a single afternoon, and it roughly worked*. I just think QC is more in line with something like the Simpsons or Peanuts, Calvin and Hobbes, etc. (or maybe Seinfeld, to use a live action sitcom example, although in that case the actors at least aged, even if the characters never really changed place-in-life) where time marches on, the occasional references to the outside world keep staying up to date, but little if anything changes over time. It's an authorial decision and it vaguely works (although being in my 40s myself, I can tell that Jeph is going to have a harder and harder time relating to/portraying 20-somethings realistically).
    *still grumbling about the ending, but that had little to do with how the strip managed time.

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