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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
    First, a lot of the stuff that's bugging people is in Jeph's comments above and below the strips. It's one thing for Pintsize to say it, it's another thing for Jeph to add the comment that Pintsize is right.

    Second, this isn't isolated, Jeph keeps pulling this stunt. See, the raisins.
    Indeed. When I see a recurring pattern of him earnestly attacking a group, especially a group I have family in, I'm going to speak up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Honestly, thats the best way to write any character, where there is far more to them than a single trait/condition/stance that is all that defines them. Brun is autistic and thats all there really is to her. Everything she does, and everything that happens to and around her is tied into her autism. Claire is a trans bookworm librarian with a twin brother who is overprotective of her and she meddles in his affairs too much and holy crow does she look like her mom. Oh, she also has a love of terrible terrible puns and its awesome. One is a real character, the other is a soapbox.
    That speaks to the change in how he introduces new characters and issues. We find out that Faye has alcohol and depression related issues a long time after her character was introduced. Claire only came out as trans after she had been around for hundreds of strips. It took a prybar to get Bubbles to talk about her issues. Angus was a joke character for a long time before he graduated to the main cast, and then dated Faye for a long time before the long distance relationship thing came up.

    Brun was introduced and then her autism became her primary trait within a week. Roko was a tertiary character until the cops are bad storyline, and she was immediately hit with the body dysphoria problem. Renee and whats-his-name (sorry, I care so little that I've forgotten his name already) went straight from hello to "serious long distance conversation" within the space of a week or two.

    All of the storylines are super compressed from how they used to be. That bothers me more than Jeph's political soapboxing. In truth, Jeph has nothing on some other authors I enjoy (looking at you, John Ringo) when they go on political rants in the middle of an otherwise enjoyable story. The problem with QC is that the enjoyable story is becoming less and less. Which is why I wind up ranting about it at 1 in the morning.

    Because I'm like Max_Killjoy. I tend not to post when I'm enjoying something unless someone attacks it, and then I'll defend it. And I tend not to post when I simply dislike something from the word go. You won't find many posts of mine about The Mandalorian, because I simply haven't watched much of it. For QC though, I've been reading the comic faihfully for a good 15 years at this point. It means I have a lot to say when the comic starts to decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich View Post
    Yes, Jeph has increasingly displayed a real problem distinguishing between character voice and author voice.

    It's perfectly in character for Pintsize to say 'all cops are bastards.' After all, Pintsize is a pretty criminal whose only reason for not having a rap sheet longer than he was (until very recently) tall was that his very size limited his mayhem to the 'not worth the effort' level. It's perfectly logical for someone who's lived their life in direct opposition to the existing social order to have such a viewpoint. Extremists have extreme views, no surprise there.

    Jeph's end comment at the end of the comic though speaks not in the voice of a fictional character, but his own voice. That's a remark from a real person with a public platform that is both ignorant, insensitive, and insulting to over 700,000 people in the US (that's roughly the number of full time law enforcement personnel in the nation, not counting non-sworn support staff) and tens of millions of people worldwide.
    It might be a joke?
    The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    It might be a joke?
    Considering Jeph's obvious political leanings, probably not. Also, considering the comic has been devoid of jokes for what feels like months, still probably not. At least, I think they're gone. All I've noticed are the obligatory fourth-panel snarks that break the flow of the current conversation and don't really land.

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    I think there is exactly 0% chance that Jeph seriously believes that 1) anyone who expresses the opinion "you should possess some articles of clothing which are not designed to shock and annoy other people" in the general, or 2) Claire in the last strip in the specific, is demonstrating moral turpitude.

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    I took the whole thing more as a jab at fashion police than anything else ...


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    Nah, it's definitely the author assigning evil to anyone who comments on clothing in any way. That makes way more sense than whatever you folks are talking about. Jeph Jacques is very vocal about his disgust of openly acknowledging others' attire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delicious Taffy View Post
    Nah, it's definitely the author assigning evil to anyone who comments on clothing in any way. That makes way more sense than whatever you folks are talking about. Jeph Jacques is very vocal about his disgust of openly acknowledging others' attire.
    I can't tell if this is sarcasm, or you've read something I haven't that makes this a clear thing.
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    You say that, but there was that one time that Raven commented on Faye's ratty old shoes ("I think THAT one might actually be a hollowed out rat's carcass!") and she has since been sent to the B-List Character Gulag along with Steve, Penny and Emily.

    Coincidence!? I think NOT!

    Also: Pintsize bland, Claire preachy, Jeph unsubtle, Beepatrice incompetent, ya-da ya-da... However you feel about QC's politics, this hasn't been a great week in it's proud history of slow-boiling plots and snarky millennial humour.
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    Leave it to R. K. Millholland to take time out of his own webcomic to devise a fitting send-off for Pintsize's old body (with Jeph's permission, it seems!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFlipp View Post
    Leave it to R. K. Millholland to take time out of his own webcomic to devise a fitting send-off for Pintsize's old body (with Jeph's permission, it seems!).
    Honestly, I'm surprised Pintsize didn't do this himself. Turning his old body into a sex toy and selling it for cash is exactly the sort of thing he'd do. Heck, it's why they burned Momo's old body!

    Also, why is Beepatrice working the front desk at the dildo factory? Isn't she a tester?

    We also don't seem to have a comic for today, which is pretty darn unusual. Unless I'm missing something and the comic labeled June 3rd is actually today's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iruka View Post
    I took the whole thing more as a jab at fashion police than anything else ...
    I wanted to believe that, trust me. When I first saw Pintsize's comment, I was like, yeah, sure... that's pretty much in character for him. I'm down with that.

    And then I saw Jeph's comment under the comic and I was, oh no, you didn't...

    But I guess he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    We also don't seem to have a comic for today, which is pretty darn unusual. Unless I'm missing something and the comic labeled June 3rd is actually today's...
    The June 3rd comic is also labeled "9:10pm", so today's might also be late. Or just plain dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFlipp View Post
    Leave it to R. K. Millholland to take time out of his own webcomic to devise a fitting send-off for Pintsize's old body (with Jeph's permission, it seems!).
    Pintsize would be proud

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    This is a genuine question (and I'm prefacing with this because I don't want it to come across as an attempt as a gotcha), but isn't taking a stance on the content of Jeph's statements inherently taking a position on a political issue, and therefore out of bounds?

    It seems that the discussion of whether he's handling stating his opinions with any sort of finesse is perfectly legitimate, but this sub-argument wherein his writing is called libellous, and the message 'must be spoken out against'—as opposed to his clumsiness of discourse—should be dropped.

    (Naturally, the same goes for any post explicitly agreeing with the contents of Jeph's statement, but I don't see examples of such.)
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    Probably best to just move past it and drop the issue. We've switched to Beapatrice shenanigans now anyways.

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    Oh, wow, right. That is Beeps. I forgot she worked there.

    ... Isnt she one of the testers? What is she doing manning the front desk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Oh, wow, right. That is Beeps. I forgot she worked there.

    ... Isnt she one of the testers? What is she doing manning the front desk?
    Desperately trying to avoid the pile of paperwork on her desk.

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    Desperately trying to avoid the pile of paperwork on her desk.
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theNater View Post
    Desperately trying to avoid the pile of paperwork on her desk.
    In fairness to Beeps, it may be that the company expects a degree of flexibility from workers for cover purposes. Back in the day when I had a holiday job in a hospital as a Clerical Assistant (very long story) I was also expected to be able to use the switchboard, so there was cover for the actual switchboard operators if they needed to go on a break. We also had a couple of people who could handle Reception for the same reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
    Hell, even the GITP site is trying to run JS from a site called "skimresources", which is on a couple of blacklists.
    I once asked about it and the staff said a few words about it. https://forums.giantitp.com/showthre...2#post24680262

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    I can't tell if this is sarcasm, or you've read something I haven't that makes this a clear thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    I once asked about it and the staff said a few words about it. https://forums.giantitp.com/showthre...2#post24680262



    Oh, you have no idea! Jeph Jacques spends years working on a single rant about the clothing police, and refines it up to a million times to produce the finest rant known to mankind.
    I myself commissioned a genuine Jeph Jacques rant in Nova Scotia for 2,000,000 indie music albums (that's about $2.00) and have been practicing with it for 2 years. I can reduce a hardened hipster to tears in one line with my Jeph Jacques rant.

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    Hmm, after taking in the last few pages of Pintsize's body swap, I'm still not really on board. I figured it would grow on me but he still just looks like a generic AI, like Winslow but wearing pink underwear. I really wish he'd kept the googly eyes permanently. It would feel more "Pintsize" that way.

    Not to say that he should never change while all the other AIs in the comic evolve, but it doesn't really feel like there was a good reason to do so (yet), and it doesn't really feel like it improves his character.

    The last few months have been pretty ho-hum for me, and even that's after getting back into it from a long stretch away (I lost interest in the Brun/Mille-Fuille hangout/date/whatever when I thought "wait, do I have any compelling reason to care about either of these characters?"

    The most compelling arc recently that I've actually cared about is May getting her new body. I felt genuine emotions for her, especially in the internalized "why is everyone being so nice to me, I can't possibly deserve this" moments. I thought that section was handled beautifully, and worked well with what had been established with her character.

    And then other (read: most) times nowadays, it's like the story just wants to grab two characters and stick them together in a situation, regardless of whether their personal arcs & character development fit that storyline or theme.
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    Who's this Iris or this Yemisi? Have we met them before?

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    Who's this Iris or this Yemisi? Have we met them before?
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    Technically because the question was posed as "or" rather than "and", the answer ought to be "no". Little lexicographical tip for you, there.

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    Who's this Iris or this Yemisi? Have we met them before?
    Yemisi is the personal shopper who helped Yay Newfriend buy her clothing, and then insulted Roko for wearing casual clothing in her own home, on her day off. She's nominally the sensible one out of her, Willow Dragonfang and the Sarcastic Grey Robot, with whom she apparently is a couple? That might be an assumption, but it seems implied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    Who's this Iris or this Yemisi? Have we met them before?
    They showed up some time ago as customers in ... the bakery, I think? Friends of Willow who hung out with Clinton. No idea why Pintsize is here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    Technically because the question was posed as "or" rather than "and", the answer ought to be "no". Little lexicographical tip for you, there.
    Is or always exclusive? I am far more familiar with the specific logical distinction between OR and XOR to be particularly sure about the regular language, but I would guess, that or does allow for both inclusive and exclusive options depending on the context or intonation, or some other nuances.
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