OOTS #1235 - The Discussion Thread

[The_Weirdo]

"The ensuing meal was excellent"

Aww, look at V, praising Elan's cooking to make him feel better.

Thank heavens I’m not like Elan. I never have to sit quietly with my own thoughts. I get to argue with people on the internet.

Amd I don’t even have to pay for an argument. People do it for free!

Room 12.

[Haluesen]

This comic was nice, me likey. Elan continues to be a favorite

"...and the ensuing meal was excellent"

Oh that got a loud laugh out of me

That got me too, always surprises and delights me when V has something nice or nice-ish to say.

This strip suddenly gave me a terrifying vision of Elan discovering social media.

Or perhaps glorious vision of Elan on social media. Him posting online is something I would actually use social media to see.

[danielxcutter]

"The ensuing meal was excellent"

Aww, look at V, praising Elan's cooking to make him feel better.

I think it's likely that Elan just did the peeling and Belkar did the cooking due to having ranks in Profession(gourmet chef).

[The_Weirdo]

I think it's likely that Elan just did the peeling and Belkar did the cooking due to having ranks in Profession(gourmet chef).

It's possible, yeah, but it's still a sweet touch for V to mention that.

[Fyraltari]

I just realized that V implied that all Roy brings to the team is his sword.

The sass this man has to live with, I tell you.

[Dr.Zero]

Also, I can't help think but wonder how difficult it would be to try and peel potatoes with a greatsword.

As long as the blade is very sharp (which is to be expected by a +5 sword), you can block the sword between to bench vises and move the potato, using the blade as a giant razor.

Only answering this because I pondered this myself and came up with a potential solution: Hold the greatsword still, move the potato against it, instead of vice-versa.

EDIT: Alas, potato-ninja'd.

Eh, ok. I see this was already replied.

Alternative: moving the sword, but the potato is a giant potato monster.

[danielxcutter]

I just realized that V implied that all Roy brings to the team is his sword.

The sass this man has to live with, I tell you.

To be fair, Roy's hyperspecialized in using it. At least in terms of his build.

[Hotu]

I really like this strip- it harkens back to the days in the Dungeon of Dorukan. Something light and funny to break up the action. It's nice to see after all the drama

[ref]

Elan being Elan. That's always good. Chaotic good, to be precise.

[Bedinsis]

"...and the ensuing meal was excellent"

Oh that got a loud laugh out of me

Me likewise.

[Quercus_Arbor]

Why is Haley holding the mummified head in the air, waiting for the perfect second to drop it? I must have missed the rational for that.
It seems like anybody could pass through the portal in either direction at any time.

[hamishspence]

The head needs to be on the line, to open the portal back. It only lasts 20 seconds, too:

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1220.html

if they go through without the head on the line, they end up in a tiny dead end:


https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1223.html


They are waiting for the moment when Xykon returns from the area of the dungeon he's in,


https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1222.html


so they can jump out and ambush him:


https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1224.html

[Fyraltari]

Why is Haley holding the mummified head in the air, waiting for the perfect second to drop it? I must have missed the rational for that.
It seems like anybody could pass through the portal in either direction at any time.

Dropping the head would disarm the trap. This would separate whichever members of Team Evil was in front from those in the back allowing the Order to get the drop on them as well as attack them already battle-weary and at half-strength.

[bunsen_h]

I never fancied Elan a cook but I can't say it doesn't suit him. I'd imagine he'd be messy and somewhat childish in his palette, but I think he'd make something good. (After all, who but Elan could appreciated the narrative significance of a grand heroes feast).

"What can I do to help? Let me help!"

*sigh* "How about you peel the potatoes? You can use Roy's sword. I'm sure he won't mind."

"... Are you sure about that?"

"Maybe they're Evil potatoes. In which case that green energy stuff will also cook them."

[gatemansgc]

This strip suddenly gave me a terrifying vision of Elan discovering social media.

OMG that would be amazing!

[hamishspence]

"What can I do to help? Let me help!"

*sigh* "How about you peel the potatoes? You can use Roy's sword. I'm sure he won't mind."

"... Are you sure about that?"

"Maybe they're Evil potatoes. In which case that green energy stuff will also cook them."

That, or it all took place in the Dungeon of Dorukan when the sword was nonmagical. Elan did say "a long time ago."

[Riftwolf]

I feel like 'feeling guilty for not being perfect' is a great description of how CE sees LG

[danielxcutter]

"What can I do to help? Let me help!"

*sigh* "How about you peel the potatoes? You can use Roy's sword. I'm sure he won't mind."

"... Are you sure about that?"

"Maybe they're Evil potatoes. In which case that green energy stuff will also cook them."

Hah!

OMG that would be amazing!

Agreed very much.

That, or it all took place in the Dungeon of Dorukan when the sword was nonmagical. Elan did say "a long time ago."

I think it's possible that Roy's sword was always magical and the starmetal just made it stronger. Because for real, you think a fighter of his level would just be using a masterwork weapon? His grandfather did fight dragons with it, remember, and dragons have DR/magic.

I feel like 'feeling guilty for not being perfect' is a great description of how CE sees LG

Eh, seems a bit more Neutral than Evil. Note: having Neutral thoughts does not mean said being is Neutral, though I think Belkar's closer to CN than he was at the beginning.

[gatemansgc]

"What can I do to help? Let me help!"

*sigh* "How about you peel the potatoes? You can use Roy's sword. I'm sure he won't mind."

"... Are you sure about that?"

"Maybe they're Evil potatoes. In which case that green energy stuff will also cook them."

that is... exactly how i could see belkar persuading elan to do that!

though as others said, belkar probably did the actual cooking since he has ranks in the chef profession.

[JSSheridan]

Thanks Giant!

Wee can't stay serious for too long

[hamishspence]

I think it's possible that Roy's sword was always magical and the starmetal just made it stronger. Because for real, you think a fighter of his level would just be using a masterwork weapon? His grandfather did fight dragons with it, remember, and dragons have DR/magic.

That could be resolved with "party wizard cast Greater Magic Weapon on the blade".


The main hint that it went from "nonmagical" to "+5" is here

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0297.html

[Jayrius]

"Magicae Est Potestas" in the signature

I just looked at your signature and seriously read "Magicae Est Potatoes". Which opens a lot of room for speculation about a former world filled with conscious vegetables and fruits.

[Nephrahim]

That could be resolved with "party wizard cast Greater Magic Weapon on the blade".


The main hint that it went from "nonmagical" to "+5" is here

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0297.html

Huh. You know I always interpreted that as it going from a plus four to plus five, since that would be a 25% increase. T never occurred to me that might indicate going for my 20 to a 25 in d20.

[hamishspence]

It's strongly implied that Xykon destroyed it by casting Shatter on it, and Shatter only works on nonmagical objects:

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html

https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/shatter.htm

Shatter creates a loud, ringing noise that breaks brittle, nonmagical objects; sunders a single solid, nonmagical object; or damages a crystalline creature.
Used as an area attack, shatter destroys nonmagical objects of crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain. All such objects within a 5-foot radius of the point of origin are smashed into dozens of pieces by the spell. Objects weighing more than 1 pound per your level are not affected, but all other objects of the appropriate composition are shattered.
Alternatively, you can target shatter against a single solid object, regardless of composition, weighing up to 10 pounds per caster level.

[Riftwolf]

It's strongly implied that Xykon destroyed it by casting Shatter on it, and Shatter only works on nonmagical objects:

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html

https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/shatter.htm

The comic had a massive level jump for Xykon retroactively. Whereas before it was feasible Roy didn't have a magic sword (because they were low level dungeon crawlers), now its more feasible that Xykon has some Superb Shatter epic spell, researched and designed solely to be a git to anyone fighting in melee.

[Hasric]

Elan's face in the last panel looks like he's about to burst with all the thoughts he's holding in.

Couldn't help notice the childlike expression. Its a bit like Belkar when they were hunting for the restrooms in the Dungeon of Dorukan....

Similar pressure. Similar distress.

[arimareiji]

A hearty LOL and applause to the Giant, for the stealth burn on Elan at the end. It seems Wrecan's joke about Veldrina in panel 7 might be literally true for Elan. <3

[hamishspence]

The comic had a massive level jump for Xykon retroactively. Whereas before it was feasible Roy didn't have a magic sword (because they were low level dungeon crawlers), now its more feasible that Xykon has some Superb Shatter epic spell, researched and designed solely to be a git to anyone fighting in melee.

Xykon may have been jumped up - but the Order hasn't. Roy is still, backstory-wise, a low-level character when he began adventuring, with the sword.

[KorvinStarmast]

Only answering this because I pondered this myself and came up with a potential solution: Hold the greatsword still, move the potato against it, instead of vice-versa.

Worked.

The head needs to be on the line, to open the portal back. It only lasts 20 seconds, too:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1220.html
if they go through without the head on the line, they end up in a tiny dead end:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1223.html
They are waiting for the moment when Xykon returns from the area of the dungeon he's in,
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1222.html
so they can jump out and ambush him:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1224.html

Thanks for the recap, given how long the digression from the mission (take out Xykon) has been.

"What can I do to help? Let me help!"
*sigh* "How about you peel the potatoes? You can use Roy's sword. I'm sure he won't mind."
"... Are you sure about that?"
"Maybe they're Evil potatoes. In which case that green energy stuff will also cook them."

Plausible conversation is plausible.

Elan's face in the last panel looks like he's about to burst with all the thoughts he's holding in.

All two of them?

Scoreboard:
1. V gets 1 point
2. Belkar gets 1 point
3. Haley gets 2 points
4. Minrah gets 1 point
5. Roy and Belkar, no score
6. Elan, no point

Rich can deliver a punch line. ( I particulary like V's in this case)

[bunsen_h]

I just looked at your signature and seriously read "Magicae Est Potatoes". Which opens a lot of room for speculation about a former world filled with conscious vegetables and fruits.

The possibility of it was raised for this world, in "That's The Spirit" in GGGU. Not just conscious but Evil.