I Can't Believe It's Not An Index CCXXXIII - Jasdoif's Random Banter #233

[LaZodiac]

That's when I'm perfect and literal evil. I need a foil old-border Yawgmoth, a full-art Atraxa, and the Phyrexian text praetors for that.

I'll do my best to get my hands on the first two, cause I know you've probably got that last one locked down.

[Anonymouswizard]

And here I am trying to work out how many of my partners would also enjoy seeing HMS Pinafore (one definitely would, not certain about the others. I'll get that film version of Pirates of Penzance and trial them with that). But there's no need for everybody to be on one date anyway.

Oh, and I built a coffee table today. It's almost will built, but I put the top on too far backwards and can't be bothered to fix it.

[enderlord99]

That's when I'm perfect and literal evil.

That was my point, yes.

[Rater202]

Somebody who's as qualified to do as everybody else in this forum.

But yes, relationships require work, even amazing ones, and more problematic relationships likely come from not putting the work in than from actual horrible people.

I will also note that this isn't the first time Rater has jumped to the extreme, although given he's apparently had issues with the extreme before (even discounting his schooling I still remember the credit card story) it's understandable. Plus if he doesn't want romantic relationships, whether that's due to aromanticism or any other reason, that's fine, he can engage in the kinds of relationships he wants to. I occasionally get judged for not being monogamous, I'm not going to turn around and start judging people for only having frenemies with benefits or whatever.

I don't think that's this extreme.

I look at the benefits of a healthy romantic relationship.

I look at the effort it takes to maintain a healthy romantic relationship, something that I am gonna be honest I'm not sure I've ever seen in real life only heard of in stories, which from what I can tell is comparable to the effort it takes to own an old car: The second you stop constantly maintaining it is the second that everything breaks down.

I look at the risks of a romantic relationship: Having to deal with toxic people. The examples I gave are extreme, probably a minority, but are common enough that it's a risk you need to be aware of.

And I don't see the appeal.

And I admit the fact that I don't see the appeal might mean something fundamental about the way I see this is different, much the same way that an asexual person might just... Not see the appeal of physical intimacy(though I also understand that Ace is a broad category that also includes people who see the appeal but just aren't interested and people who just think it's kind of icky,) the fact that I am the kind of people that can be perfectly fine only leaving the house three times since the pandemic started and be fine with that, and the fact that I find social interaction, even pleasant social interaction, exhausting, frustrating, and irritating in general may be factors in this view.

And "frenemies with benefits" sounds like an awful situation. Why would someone want to have "benefits" with someone who is sometimes their enemy, that's just leaving yourself vulnerable to them.

That's the social of smoking pot and having sex at Camp Crystal Lake while Jason's running around... Seven movies into the franchise when everyone should know better.

[Peelee]

And here I am trying to work out how many of my partners would also enjoy seeing HMS Pinafore (one definitely would, not certain about the others. I'll get that film version of Pirates of Penzance and trial them with that). But there's no need for everybody to be on one date anyway.

Oh, and I built a coffee table today. It's almost will built, but I put the top on too far backwards and can't be bothered to fix it.

I have seen zero Gilbert and Sullivan, I would love to see all of it and I am unfamiliar with the "how" part lf the equation. Granted, I never really give it much thought unless prompted (eg right now) and forget about it fairly quickly, which contributes no small part, but still.

[Anonymouswizard]

And "frenemies with benefits" sounds like an awful situation. Why would someone want to have "benefits" with someone who is sometimes their enemy, that's just leaving yourself vulnerable to them.

Because sometimes they're the only part of your social circle who's a Dom?

Look, I'm not saying that I'd understand the thought process from somebody doing a frenemies with benefits. I'm just saying I wouldn't turn around and judge them (except for comedic effect).

And I personally think you're overstating the risks of those examples. Yes, such things happen, and I don't know the demographics of your town or social circle, but to me your making it appear likely they one of them will come up.

Now if you think that none of those risks are outweighed by snuggling with a pretty person front of an operetta that's fine. I mean, I'll totally be doing that as soon as I can, but it's not like you have an obligation to.

I have seen zero Gilbert and Sullivan, I would love to see all of it and I am unfamiliar with the "how" part lf the equation. Granted, I never really give it much thought unless prompted (eg right now) and forget about it fairly quickly, which contributes no small part, but still.

I've seen both The Mikado and Pirates of Penzance, both incredible (I even saw the latter in San Francisco sung in RP, very big props to that group). I'd recommend the second, The Mikado is probably the better play but Pirates of Penzance has both the well known G&S song and the absolute show stopper that is With Cat-like Tread. However you do have to sit through orphan frequently only once.

As for finding them, my only real suggestion is checking local theatres and Google. They're public domain, so I suspect smaller companies will likely put them on quite a bit (if they can manage RP).

I actually really wish they they were used more for school lessons and productions. They're probably the only English playwrights that you can call as influential as Shakespeare with a straight face.

[Peelee]

I've seen both The Mikado and Pirates of Penzance, both incredible (I even saw the latter in San Francisco sung in RP, very big props to that group). I'd recommend the second, The Mikado is probably the better play but Pirates of Penzance has both the well known G&S song and the absolute show stopper that is With Cat-like Tread. However you do have to sit through orphan frequently only once.

As for finding them, my only real suggestion is checking local theatres and Google. They're public domain, so I suspect smaller companies will likely put them on quite a bit (if they can manage RP).

I actually really wish they they were used more for school lessons and productions. They're probably the only English playwrights that you can call as influential as Shakespeare with a straight face.

If they're good enough to be referenced in Raiders of the Lost Ark and The West Wing, they're good enough for me to want to watch.

[factotum]

There's a movie version of the Pirates of Penzance (not to be confused with the spoof "Pirate Movie", which came out the same year as I recall) which is pretty darned good, you might want to try and watch that if you're not able to see the original play.

[Rater202]

I wouldn't call the prite Movie a spoof, per see.

It's just... a young woman dreams that she's the female lead in the Pirates of Penzance, and ends up acting out the play but with anachronistic references, self-referential humor, and occasionally adding in something more contemporary pop than the original operetta.

Considering that it's tradition to make adjustments to Gilbert and Sulivan's works to either fit it with the contemporary tastes or include cultural inside jokes of the time and place they're being performed, The Pirate Movie barely bats an eye.

I particularly like the take on Modern Major General . The first ver is quite traditional, but the second verse

I comprehend contemporary culture North American
I straighten more piratical erections than Bo Derek and,
I'm in to EST and all the rest, I've undergone analysis,
I've jumped beyond the gravitude to permanent paralysis

My muse is into music, but my credit I'll not trouble you,
From R&B to S&M, cross over C&W,
To groovin' with the Doobies in my Malibu white-souling tones
Man, I'm older than the Beatles, but I'm younger than the Rolling Stones
(He's older than the Beatles, but younger than the Rolling Stones)

My military knowledge for I'm plucky and adventury.
Embraces M*A*S*H and Star Wars and the 22nd century
Yes sir in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern major general
(In short in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
He is the very model of a modern major general)

[LaZodiac]

Factually speaking the best parody of Modern Major General is "Everything is Alphanumeric" and no I refuse to elaborate at this time I'm busy.

[enderlord99]

Wait...

Factotum? Rater?

Are you talking about the world's highest-budget porno?

EDIT: Apparently not. I was thinking of a different... bit of trivia.

[Anonymouswizard]

I just get so disappointed when people spoof I Am The Very Model Of A Modern Major General and include actual accomplishments. Keep with the spirit of the song, use meaningless achievements.

What's next, changing the lyrics of When I Was A Lad to be about achieving positions via talent?

Also, while I have no problems with altering the words to G&S songs to make them more topical (which I believe the pair supported) I hear that The Pirate Movie goes far beyond that. Plus, while I haven't seen the entirely of the faithful version from the same year, what I have seen suggests that it would be pretty hard to top (not impossible, but that's a really well done rendition of When The Foeman Bares His Steel there).

[Rater202]

Wait...

Factotum? Rater?

Are you talking about the world's highest-budget porno, or something else?

I am talking about a PG rated Musical Comedy from 1982 in which a young woman involved in a school exchange attends a local pirate-themed festival, hits it off with one of the performers, but her host family screws her out of it and she ends up knocked unconscious in an accident pursuing the young man and dreams that she's the female lead in The Pirates of Penzance. with the other roles being taken up by the people who attended the festival: the performer she fell for being Frederick, the pirates all being stunt performers from the festival, and so on.

If there's something else called The Pirate Movie I'd really rather not know.

[enderlord99]

If there's something else called The Pirate Movie I'd really rather not know.

According to Google... there isn't, quite.

[Rater202]

Family ordered from a new pizza place(we're thinking of getting them for the 4th but the holiday should never be the first time you try food from a new place.)

It's good, but... Mozzarella sticks the size of an eggroll.

I'm not saying no, but I question why anyone thought they'd need to be that big.

[tyckspoon]

It's good, but... Mozzarella sticks the size of an eggroll.

I'm not saying no, but I question why anyone thought they'd need to be that big.

Cheese and breading is cheap, they realize they're servicing Americans (Home of the 16-oz 'small' cup and the restaurants that don't bother carrying them anyways because they only ever use the Large ones), and they figure anybody who is ordering fried cheese is probably not that concerned about portion control to start with?


.. maybe they mixed up their order with their supplier and ordered the jumbo (size) mozzarella sticks instead of the jumbo (count) ones.

[Rater202]

Cheese and breading is cheap, they realize they're servicing Americans (Home of the 16-oz 'small' cup and the restaurants that don't bother carrying them anyways because they only ever use the Large ones), and they figure anybody who is ordering fried cheese is probably not that concerned about portion control to start with?


.. maybe they mixed up their order with their supplier and ordered the jumbo (size) mozzarella sticks instead of the jumbo (count) ones.

They're hand-made in-house. Or at least that's how they're being advertised.

They certainly don't look premade and frozen. That ain't breeding, that's a batter.

I honestly thought they were eggrolls, like, it's just a pizza place that also serves eggrolls. But no, they're mozzarella sticks.

Pizza's also really filling. Like, part of the reason I have a weight problem is that I don't feel full with reasonable proportions of most things. This is a place that cuts in squares, so about four pieces is a reason for potion(it's about the same amount as to slices of lace that cuts it like a pie) and... I was full.

And these aren't a super loaded pizzas, it's just...

[Bartmanhomer]

Here's a conversation starter: Will you eat watermelon with mustard?

[Mystic Muse]

Here's a conversation starter: Will you eat watermelon with mustard?

Is this something you would do, or something you have seen someone do in real life and enjoy?

[Peelee]

Is this something you would do, or something you have seen someone do in real life and enjoy?

Yeah, like, how did this come up? Is it just a random pairing?

[Bartmanhomer]

Is this something you would do, or something you have seen someone do in real life and enjoy?

Well if you must know, tonight I was watching the World of Adam Barta Livestream on Youtube he was doing a challenge with Cynthia Beaumont eating watermelon and mustard.

[Peelee]

Well if you must know, tonight I was watching the World of Adam Barta Livestream on Youtube he was doing a challenge with Cynthia Beaumont eating watermelon and mustard.

OK, so short version, things that fame-hungry youtubers do to get views probably isn't going to be something most people would do.

[Bartmanhomer]

OK, so short version, things that fame-hungry youtubers do to get views probably isn't going to be something most people would do.

Precisely.

[Peelee]

Precisely.

So why would you call it a conversation starter? There's not much conversation to have.

[Bartmanhomer]

So why would you call it a conversation starter? There's not much conversation to have.

I was just asking if anyone in this thread would eat watermelon with mustard.

[Peelee]

I was just asking if anyone in this thread would eat watermelon with mustard.

.... But you just admitted that most people wouldn't unless they were trying to get YouTube views.

[Bartmanhomer]

.... But you just admitted that most people wouldn't unless they were trying to get YouTube views.

Most people yes. But I didn't say everyone though.

[Peelee]

Most people yes. But I didn't say everyone though.

Have you ever heard of anyone doing it before the one person on Youtube who just does it for fame?

[Bartmanhomer]

Have you ever heard of anyone doing it before the one person on Youtube who just does it for fame?

Yes. I already mention them before: World of Adam Barta and Cynthia Beaumont.

[Peelee]

Yes. I already mention them before: World of Adam Barta and Cynthia Beaumont.

So no. You've only ever seen it once from youtubers trying to get views. That's not a normal thing people do.