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Thread: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Well. Everyone (almost) is trying to kill me. What a surprise. I was expecting to be vigged last night, so I'm grateful for 48 hours' more life, I suppose.
My only defence is "I'm an idiot" which I know isn't even provable. So I'm just going to have to accept this.
I've got some analysis in my Apogee QT which I will paste into here - it's all from day one so will be a little outdated by now - and then I can try and do some more. Not that it's likely to do me any good, but maybe I can make up for the day when you could have been killing a wolf instead of an idiot neutral. And then I can go and laugh at myself in deadchat, which will at least be less stressful.
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Wait... why is Murska not trying to kill me?
Do you think Valmark is likely to be my partner?
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Spoiler: Now-useless wolf!Batcathat analysis
Assuming wolf!Batcathat:
AvatarVecna remains unreadable.
Bladescape gets town points for being early on the Batcathat wagon, but loses them for hopping off again
Caoimhin could easily be a partner - their first post was pretty wishy-washy on them and I don't think they've answered my question about their townread yet.
Elenna soft-defended Batcathat early on so could be a partner I guess?
EmmyNecromancer is probably telling the truth (I believe her claim anyway, but sheeping onto a partner wagon that early is highly unlikely)
JeenLeen was the first Batcathat vote and one of the earliest serious votes of the game so is unlikely to be bussing.
Libro is more or less confirmed town for the counterclaim
Murska exists, despite the fact I keep forgetting it. He voted for Batcathat which I guess is good?
Xihirli claimed not to like any of the wagons without actually elaborating which could be partnery but on the other hand did we really have w/w wagons earlier?
Zelphas voting Batcathat is also probably town especially just after your claim when there was a distraction to talk about.
Not wolves:
Apogee1
EmmyNecromancer
JeenLeen
Libro
Zelphas
Maybe wolves *shrug*
AvatarVecna
Bladescape
Book Wombat
flat_footed
MornShine
Murska
Rogan
rogue_alchemist
Shal06
Totadileplayz
Valmark
Xihirli
Likely wolves:
CaoimhinTheCape
Elenna
Which... I feel all right about that. My likely wolves are both people I suspected to some extent before the Batcathat claims happened. That being said I have far too many null reads. I'll work through them if you don't decide to have me killed first.
Spoiler: More-useful neutral!Batcathat analysisOkay, too busy being mad at myself to focus on other stuff.
Assuming neutral!Batcathat:
I think there's a good chance of there being a wolf in the other neutral claims. Yes, I am aware I'm now the most suspicious neutral claim. (I still have a chance of winning even if I die, and honestly I probably deserve to. Die, that is. Not win.)
Unless you have any private neutral claims I'm not aware of, I'd vote for JeenLeen over Emmy every time, just because I can't imagine a newbie wolf fakeclaiming in the way Emmy did. Plus Emmy's claim is easy(ish) to test whereas we don't even know what Jeen's win-con is.
Beyond that... I can't really clear anyone. Even Libro has a chance to be a wolf truthfully counterclaiming. So... I'm just at "hope Batcathat is a wolf because otherwise I have barely any useful reads and am probably a dead demigoddess walking in any case".
I may be back to scream into the abyss about my own stupidity for a while, but if not see you when you wake up and order my death.
Spoiler: General readslistReads list from yesterday, updated with more recent events. Alphabetical within tiers.
Town:
Apogee1 is a child of Demeter until proven otherwise.
Bladescape... I think I like him. I agreed with a few of his early reads, but looking back I'm with AV in thinking he'd contributed more than he had. Though I like that he's not afraid to argue with AV. The Batcathat vote and switch evens out to mildy town at best.
Valmark's reaction to the Apogee claim fits with his town meta iirc- not particularly confident on this but with my lack of other townreads it's enough for day one.
Null:
AvatarVecna. I actually like quite a few of their points and my gut says vaguely town, but they're AV and they could definitely fake them as wolf. My gut is unreliable when it comes to AV.
Book Wombat: lack of AI content
EmmyNecromancer: claimed neutral. I think I believe their claim at this point - it seems a weird thing to do publicly and unprompted as a wolf.
flat_footed: lack of AI content
JeenLeen: claimed neutral. More sceptical of this than Emmy, given the lack of win-con or powers claimed, but not interested in killing them today when there's wolfy people around.
Libro: conftown if Batcathat flips wolf for obvious reasons. Otherwise null, maybe a slight townlean as a wolf would be less likely to counter a claim they knew didn't come from a wolf?
MornShine: hmm. I kind of agree Xihirli is acting odd, but then Xihirli is always odd. The post itself is... saying "incredibly suspicious" and then in the same post "this could also be town" feels a little off but not necessarily wolfy.
Murska: lack of AI content
Rogan: *shrug* I don't know them at all, and there's quite a few mechanics-based posts that I'm bad at reading, so I'll just go with null for now.
rogue_alchemist: my gut says mildly wolfy, but I seem to remember he used to be That One Player I scumread regardless of his actual alignment, so leaving him at null.
Shal06: lack of AI content early on. Didn't respond that well to my questions but cutting him slack for being new.
Xihirli... is Xihirli but isn't acting like Xihirli?!? I mean. It's odd, but not necessarily wolfy odd. And I'm not really inspired by the case against her. Hmm. She has been entertaining though!
Zelphas exists and jumped on the Batcathat wagon, so town if Batcathat is a wolf... or then again, they hopped off before the claim, which I didn't notice earlier. So only a slight townlean. Otherwise *shrug* nothing they've done has really made much of an impression, so null?
Scum:
Batcathat: okay, not actually an outed wolf, despite what people who don't know about my stupidity think. But still likely to be a wolf, with the Libro cc and the switch to a hard-to-test neutral claim.
CaoimhinTheCape. I didn't really like the switch to a random vote when quite a lot had already happened, but looking back through the ISO I don't hate it as much as I remember. But the unexplained Batcathat townread is concerning regardless of Bat's alignment.
Elenna. I also had a gut dislike of that opening post, and until now didn't really remember much she's done. Reading through her ISO her posts are Fine but still aren't really doing much for me. Has partner equity with Batcathat.
Totadileplayz: again, another "random vote late in the game". Not a fan of the focus on Jeen, it could be an easy thing to hide behind as a wolf, and I'm not inspired by the Book Wombat case. Their explanation didn't really make me feel any better about them - though I don't know them at all so this could just be a playstyle thing. Didn't notice any significant interactions with Batcathat.
I’m slightly less keen on “kill the neutral claims” than I was yesterday (my gut is telling me Jeen is telling the truth) but other than that my reads remain more or less the same as I didn’t do much work on this overnight. So... hmm, where shall I start? ISOs? Yeah, I guess that makes most sense.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
This reminds me of when I was a wolf in another game and we killed a player out of fun, no plan behind it, and then people were all "That's such an obvious cheap attempt at making us suspicious of those the (dead) player suspected"
Aaaaanyway... Ugh, sorrySnowblaze.Not having a power in an all power roles game just looks so weird.
What was the time of your claim to Apogee1 compared to the claim of BatCatHat? You'd be considerably less suspicious if you claimed after BCH claimed (you'd have had to willingly fake-counterclaim with apparently no whatsoever plan behind it).Last edited by Valmark; 2021-06-06 at 01:56 PM.
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2021-06-05, 02:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Apogee1 is conftown, AV is dead, Batcathat is dead (are we killing in alphabetical order? I finally found why I shouldn't die!) so... Bladescape. I came out with a townlean earlier, but my confidence was fairly low.
Spoiler: Bladescape ISO
- I like his first post (#22) - early reads but not the kind that feel like "I'm under pressure to have early reads because I'm a wolf".
- his next post is putting pressure on AV which I don't think is a route a wolf goes down, as there's been enough posting in recruitment about AV being dangerous that I don't think a wolf goes there.
- self-voting complaint is NAI
- 106 is blunt, in what I think is a good way.
- yeah, 111 is getting into "too aggressively provoking the Big Scary AV to be a wolf" although AV did make a good point about "if Cao is a wolf one of AV/Valmark/Bat is a wolf" being not particularly-saying-much (looking at it now when two have flipped not-wolf and I townread the third, on the other hand...)
118 - more arguing with AV, which I've already made my point about; the vote for Caoimhin coming after mine is less of a good look but in the bigger picture isn't a massive concern (unless he flips wolf, in which case this is what I'm going to point to in postgame to say "See, I called him out"!)
121 is... probably NAI.
126, questioning me, is good - he's not just thinking "oh, she's voting with me, I'll call her town".
There's quite a while until the next Bladescape post (sleep is a good reason, though!) and just joining in with the tie plan is NAI, more or less.
247 - NAI.
249 is good pro-town advice, but I'm refusing to townread mechanics stuff.
251 - NAI.
280 - ...probably NAI.
293 - I'm an idiot, okay?
295 - fair point.
297 - mistakes aren't necessarily wolfy (my flip will prove that). NAI, although my gut says slightly wolf.
301 - NAI
304 - NAI
309 - NAI
370 - NAI
378 - NAI
416 - yeah, makes sense *sigh*
...yeah, I'm okay calling him town for today, and I'll be dead after anyway. Also I have a lot more respect for AV now, that took a while.
Apology accepted, Valmark, this is my own fault. Although wouldn't I be more likely to fake having a night action as a wolf?
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Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
...when you say that you have no power do you mean that you have no night action? Because those are different things.
And only if you have a way to prove it, really. Imagine if you were the Ares who kills their killers, for example.
Also you are the one who basically went "People I'm a wolf" in public and literally nobody voted you so I'd be very worried if I didn't vote you at this time (you hadn't explicitely said 'I'm a wolf' but rather made a good and strong argument that basically meant you were 100% a wolf. And it was true!)
Uh... Hey @Apogee1, what was it that made you doubt BCH (who claimed in public) over Snowblaze by the way? I don't think that was said (Sorry if it was).
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2021-06-05, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Yeah, I don’t have a night action.
And yeah, I did do that. Though “I was roleblocked on a night no-one died” is less incriminating than “I typed the wrong role name in the exact way that let me switch my claim to no longer be countering a truthful claimant”.
I’ve made my peace with having to die, anyway. Can I have irises at my funeral? The irony will entertain me.
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Spoiler: Book Wombat ISO
70 - NAI
72 - NAI
351 - NAI
353 - NAI
And... that’s it?
Yeah, I can’t really say anything other than “dead null” here.
@Book Wombat: Can you give me your top non-confirmed townread and your top scumread excluding me (because agreeing that I look suspicious doesn’t tell me much!)
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Spoiler: CaoimhinThe”Unspellable”Cape ISO
27 - I got gut pings from this first time around; in hindsight it doesn’t look quite as bad.
43 is a bit non-commital.
45 feels... pointless? It could be a wolf trying to join in with the speculation on Apogee’s claim.
51 - I don’t hate the switching to a random vote as much as I did, but on the other hand I now agree with Bladescape on not being a fan of the reasons for not joining the wagons. Not so much the fact they existed, but the way they were kind of waffly lots-of-words-not-much-conclusions stuff
141 - the defence doesn’t really sway me either way. I already talked about the Batcathat townread and the MornShine vote is... *shrug* I can barely remember anything MornShine has done this game, but “only having one game-related post” wasn’t exactly unique at this stage. Why MornShine over any other inactive?
206 - NAI, though I’m actually the secret love-Child of Iris and Ariadne. Also I’m a cultist, and a Russian spy.
208 - NAI
210 - mechanics which I will treat as NAI
214 - more of the same
228 - vaguely townish if I squint?
230 - NAI
244 - more mechanics
282 - *shrug* doesn’t really do much for me. I guess it’s an answer to a concern, though.
305 - NAI
310 - NAI (although trying to organise the tie as a whole is... maybe mildly towny?)
316 - yet more tie-organising
356 - NAI
403 - fine, I guess, if a bit lacking in analysis.
Well, avatar confusion made my job harder on this one. I have concerns, and I could definitely see myself voting here. Taking a break for now, will carry on this afternoon.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 05:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Side note, btw, I like Cao a lot more today after doing a re-read last night.
I'm sorry Cao for tunnelling on you Day 1."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-06-05, 05:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
But this time, it seems like the kill was not by the wolves. Unless the child of Zeus is a wolf. Or the kill was made by the target switch zeusling and still got a fluff of electricity?
So it is rather unlikely to be a plot of the wolves to discredit you.
And there is another thing, but your could not know this.
Originally Posted by AV in QT
So instead, you have a passive power?
Did you tell this to Apogee?
Did you tell him what your power does?
If you claimed your passive power to Apogee before it was pointed out that having no power at all would be strange, it might give you some credit. Nothing to guarantee your survival of course, but every bit can help?!
What is your power?
Or maybe even better, can you quote your complete Role description here?
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2021-06-05, 05:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
*sigh* I don’t have a power. Or a night action. I can’t do anything other than vote and talk. And, apparently, get myself killed by stupid mistakes.
Would rather not post my full description as it feels like it kind of ruins the point of the game. Also because it’s not likely to save me anyway.
@Bladescape I was going to ask you to elaborate on the Caoimhin read but then I realised there’s a good chance it’s something you don’t want to share publicly. But if it’s not, elaborate anyway?I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 05:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
My only hold-up at voting Snowblaze is that it feels like such a weird lie to hang on to at this point (if it's a lie).
I was just telling about something that happened, not drawing parallels- especially since that time nobody was trying to discredit anybody either- if anything that should be an example of wolves not trying to discredit anybody with their kill.
I hope you're voting me because you think I'm suspicious, not because AV wanted to be trusted.
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2021-06-05, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: Elenna ISO
23 I don’t like, for reasons that have already been discussed.
26 is a valid point but could also be a wolf trying to discredit early reads. Though two of the three names having flipped neutral makes it look less like soft-defending a partner.
38 is *shrug* not really doing much for me.
101... big wallpost, how do I analyse it? I don’t dislike any of the points - I disagree with the Valmark read but that’s not wolfy. And I like taking the initiative to try and get a Xihirli wagon.
145 is similar really, a big wallpost with a lot of thoughts that don’t really give me much of a read.
166: trying to kill Batcathat yesterday is about as controversial and informative as trying to kill me today.
190: mildly towny if I squint
192: NAI, although I lied earlier. I’m actually Harry Potter who is the son of Zeus. Oh yeah, and I’m the Seer. AV had a power to flip as a different role.
212: mechanics, NAI
283: I don’t dislike this but I don’t particularly like it either. A bit of a theme emerging here.
285: NAI
320: I disagree on me/Batcathat wolfbuddies being anything other than “utterly crazy”. Though, considering this game so far...
375: NAI
377: also NAI
390: mechanics, NAI
392: NAI
405: mechanics, also trying to kill me which doesn’t tell us much
409: NAI
412: NAI. You will be very confused.
415: NAI
...slight scum lean???
I’m struggling a bit here - there’s a lot of content but none of it screams town. And there are a few points of concern.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
@Val
After a good night's sleep and rereading the thread, I have to admit there is not that much reason to suspect you than I had originally thought.
AVs read vs you was strong, but I can't honestly say that I agree with her. I mean, I was not comfortable about telling Apogee everything on day 1 myself.
Therefore, I will change my vote toSnowfor the moment.
If snow flips red, I think you could still be a valid target:
Although I'm not sure if this would be too obvious as a try to save a wolf accomplice...
Spoiler: My stance regarding Apogee
Something else I would like to let the public know, I have had a conversation with Apogee since the beginning, but only now I have shared everything about my role and my night 1 action.
My reason for not cooperating earlier was my belief that handing out info to a wolf would be devastating. But I thought the risk of Apogee actually being a wolf to be low.
Last edited by Rogan; 2021-06-06 at 07:25 AM. Reason: Changed vote
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2021-06-05, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
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2021-06-05, 07:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
EmmyNecromancer is confirmed neutral, so... flat_footed.
Spoiler: flat_footed ISO
5 - NAI
323 - NAI
328 - NAI
371 - NAI
Oh, look, another dead null. Same question as to Book Wombat: top non-confirmed townread, top non-me scumread, please.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 07:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, looks like we have a time manipulation power in the game!
These seem to be the current votes.
A very bad situation for Snowblaze and a few votes for Valmark. (7/2)
I'm looking forward to hear from Apogee and or Libro.
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2021-06-05, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Yup, but only because I quoted it
Could you try and get some reads, then? Find a post that looks suspicious and tell people why.
@Rogan I probably wouldn’t do that as a wolf with Valmark especially in a game with so many ways to get mechanically caught. Though I may not be the best source on that!I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Nah it's just reads in thread.
The initial read on him was of a wolf hiding a defense of a wolf in a argument against all the wagons on D1. This implies one of BHC/AV/Valmark is wolf with him. BHC was neutral, AV was the one I actually thought was linked to Cao due to AV's later defense of Cao as null.
Now that AV's flipped town, the only possible way my original theory holds up is Valmark, and to be honest I don't see Valmark as a wolf right now.
Side note:
It doesn't matter if Snow is telling the truth or lying.
We should lynch her anyway."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-06-05, 08:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Is this because you want to kill neutral!me because I could betray town, or because if I don’t die today every day from now will become “so, shall we kill Snowblaze today” and discussion will never get anywhere?
Also why am I providing arguments for my own death?
(Because you’re probably right, sadly. Unless a Hades kid wants to claim AV scried me as neutral from beyond the grave? No? Worth hoping.)I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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I'd throw a vote on Snowblaze but it doesn't seem necessary.
Valmarkfor the sake of a counter-wagon I guess? I'll move it if something crazy happens and someone else is on the chopping block.Last edited by Xihirli; 2021-06-06 at 09:52 AM.
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2021-06-05, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-05, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Oh well. Onwards. For - actually, why am I doing these again?
Spoiler: JeenLeen ISO
17 is mildly towny, I guess. (Using towny to mean “the opposite of wolfy” here. I know I’m referring to a claimed neutral who can’t reasonably be town.)
42 - analysis of the Apogee claim... yeah, let’s go with “mechanics, NAI”
55 is waffly, but it’s an understandable topic to be confused on.
57 is... my gut says slightly wolfy but my brain says NAI
62 - NAI
71 - also NAI. I’m a survivor, by the way. I’ve just been possessed by an evil spirit forcing me to play against my win condition - ignore that. I’m a Child of Iris. I mean Ariadne.
136 - neutral claim. Unprompted but I could see Jeen making that move as a wolf.
138 - not so much a fan of “I just claimed neutral, now I’ll pressure the other neutral claimant”
142 - NAI
153 - mechanics, NAI
169 - ...probably NAI
187 - seems a believable thought process
189 - continuation of the process in 187
195 - mechanics, NAI
203 - wait, what? I must have missed that the first time. Why would they vote for Libro before Batcathat even flipped? Maybe it’s just a Weird Post, but it feels wolfy.
209 - mechanics
225 - NAI
232 - NAI
253 - NAI
289 - a lot of words to say something fairly obvious and about to become irrelevant
291 - disagree on Emmy sticking around but that’s mechanical stuff.
294 - NAI
312 - NAI
338 - NAI
344... yup, you guessed it.
347 can you tell I’m getting bored of typing those three letters?
363, 365, 367, 381 yes, you can
385 feels too elaborate and risky for a wolf to make up.
400 *shrug* I guess I appreciate not trying to kill me?
402, 406 back to good old NAI
408 I like trying to work out the Xihirli thing, which I probably should pay more attention to.
410, 420 NAI.
More avatar confusion. Delightful. I think my problem here is that JeenLeen is a very mechanically-oriented player, so my default “treat mechanics as null” is meaning I’m calling half their posts null. I’m leaning towards believing their claim, though. So maybe my “wolf in the neutral claims” was wrong?I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
If you are truthful about being a neutral wanting to help town, it enlightens us on your reads and views of other people, and can help shed some light on some sus behavior other people would have missed. It's also a mildly teeny thing you can do which can cause some doubt in people who would have originally voted for you. At least that's my understanding of why your doing this.
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Though I should say you should actually quote all of the posts instead of just refer to the number, your isos are suffering because it's a struggle to find the posts your referring to.
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2021-06-05, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 10:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-05, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
No, I don’t mind. Thank you!
I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-05, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
It's time I come honest to the Town. I already told this to Apogee, Snowblaze, and another person earlier this Day, but I'm actually the Champion of Hera.
I fakeclaimed Champion of Zeus because I didn't want the vigilante to kill me N1. Hoping that N2 onward there's a better target, e.g., someone likely a wolf. I was hoping the misinfo, or giving some hooks, might help me catch a wolf (or Zeusling), but it didn't work. At this point, I think the misinfo about the number of neutrals will hurt the town instead of being indifferent, so coming clean.
I still think my best bet is to ally with the Town. My hope is that we find the NKer and kill them (as a wolf Zeusling), and that the wolves randomly kill the other Zeusling before the game ends.
So Town Zeusling, I do want you dead, but I think it probably better you spend time killing others, because I don't really have any means to help kill you beyond my vote.
Here's my true, full Role.
You are a champion of Hera.
Hera has chosen to elevate you with the power of a demigod. Enough to get you into camp halfblood. Zeus has been cheating again.
Hera's sight: Each night choose one player and learn if they are a child of Zeus. If you target a child of Zeus, you will be informed and they will not be able to act that night.
You are neutral. Win condition: Survive until all children of Zeus are dead.
Also also, I doubt there's more than 4 neutrals. So if anyone else beyond me and Snowblaze claims neutral, probably a lying wolf.
I still lean towards believing Snowblaze, and think it more likely Valmark or Xi are wolves than her.
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I forgot something.
gac3 said, at some point, that some Roles might have a bit of extra info other than what was supplied in the opening post/recruitment. (Right?)
Apogee told me, when I claimed Champion of Zeus, that someone told him a Champion of Hera existed.
My guess is that the wolf Zeusling is the one with a NK power, and to balance how that is effectively no power for a wolf, they were told that someone (Champion of Hera) is hunting them.
Though Apogee knows best who his source is.
On RNG of the Roles
It seems that gac3 said literally any named Role (even vig-Zeus or one of the Children of Demeter) can be a wolf, based on the RNG process he used. It's weighted, so it's unlikely, but it's still possible (just not probable.)
I'm not saying we should suspect Apogee, nor do I exactly care given my neutrality, but the Town should keep that in mind. Or Apogee should doubt this sibling.
Though I reckon the probability that both the vig-Zeus and a Demeter-kid both RNGed as wolf is exceptionally low... so if one of them flips wolf, the other is probably town just due to probability. Not proven, but literally probably Town just via the likelihood of things.
Finally using my Stats degree in a game. Yay.
Apogee's silence thus far is making me more suspect of him. BUT it is the weekend, and I know I'm usually more quiet during the weekend than not, so I'm willing to give benefit of the doubt to him. E.g, that he's silent due to real life, not because he's a wolf and realizes that something he needs to say will look bad for him or a scumbuddy.
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2021-06-05, 11:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
It Got Too Long Jeenleen's and Flatfooted's Will be posted subsequently.
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Here is a serious question though why is it that the list changes to other emojis?
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And can someone please post something? I Can't make a new post, to send the others until someone does so.
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2021-06-05, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
I intended to wait until I get a reply from Apogee to some questions, but it seems like he is busy today.
I think your explanation for the fake claim is in line with what you have said before. Especially if Apogee can confirm he told you he knew about the existence of your real role.
Your power feels a bit strange. It's a scry for Children of Zeus (this is something I would expect) but instead of killing, you only block them? I could imagine you are faking this part again, in order to appear as a lesser danger than you really are for a child of Zeus.
All in all, I think you are really Neutral and I hope you will stand by your word to vote for town.
However, I wonder why you assume that the lightning power is wolf, while the mystic power is town. Okay, hitting the seer looks quite bad, but how should the wolf team have known AV was the seer? There are two possibilities.
Apogee or his partner is a wolf.
It was random chance.
Your other argument was, that Apogee knew your role existed and you think it's more likely for a wolf to receive this warning than a town player... this is not illogical, but it's not really convincing either. Which leads me to the following:
I would love to know if the children of Dionysus received a hint that someone might watch them? If they did, it would both give points to Snows claim and be precedent for a role getting additional Intel (with was stated to be possible by gac) without needing to be a wolf.
Now, one last question.
Why should we believe you are not going to switch sides after you got the wolf child of Zeus killed? Killing a wolf is better done by Town, but killing a town is easier for a wolf.
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2021-06-05, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-05, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Because BCH had changed from an earlier claim and I didn’t think there would be two children of Iris with different wincons, so I trusted the earlier one, not under pressure.
That of course wasn’t actually how it unfolded, but.
Anyways I have a claim from the vig for it being their kill. They didn’t claim that earlier, so didn’t tell them to stay clear of AV.
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The child of Dionysus I am in contact with said they are not informed they are being hunted/protected.
I’ve also received yet another neutral claim, but don’t remember what it was. Let me check.
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It’s an undescribed neutral. Don’t really know how to handle that at this point with so many neuts being claimed.
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The doctor is claiming that they did not save libro’s life last night, so whatever ended the kill was not then. The child of dionysus roleblocked Xihirli, so that’s a possible kill stopped. There is also the possibility that the two overlapped naturally