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Thread: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
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2021-06-07, 08:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Looking at the roles, the only one left who can redirect is Dionysis: Induce Madness. They could only have been responsible for tonight's kill so I don't know how much the laughter means, especially since we heard laughter last night when they didn't redirect the killer.
I'm also hoping that Libro checked one of the Neutrals tonight to see their parentage. I don't see any reason that info would be kept private, so hopefully we'll get some more intel from that.
I agree with what Totadile said above so I'll trust Flat_Footed over Bladescape.
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Bladescape (4): Flat_Footed, CaoimhinTheCape, Totadileplayz, Elenna
Not Voting: Zelphas
No Posts: Bladescape, BookWombat, Jeenleen, Libro, Mornshine, Murska, Rogan, Rogue_Alchemist, Shal06, Snowblaze, Valmark
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2021-06-07, 08:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
It is a bit of a tough call; we're going off of one person, but as others have said this call doesn't make much sense for a wolf to make and would lead to an almost immediate lynch tomorrow if you flip green, so I'm going to have to vote Bladescape, at least for now. I like having at least two wagons at first to at least prompt discussion, but the only way to make that happen would be to vote flat_footed, it seems, and that doesn't seem like it'd get much traction (or be the right choice, in any case).
In addition to all of this...
Man, I really need to watch that movie again. It is completely unfaithful to the original myths, but it is still a whole lot of fun.
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2021-06-07, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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@Snowblaze how does it feel to realize even after your mistakes and people still doubting you as a wolf or neutral you not only surbive one lynch, but twice?
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Seeing as how discussion is the mother of Investigation.m Why in the world would Flat_Footed as a wolf use a Scry on Bladescape that he already knew the answer to?
Same Question From Bladescape's angle why as a wolf would you admit he targeted you With AV's Scry instead of Child of Iris's ability to allow some doubt to enter the equation?
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If Bladescape had made a QT with a townie this could have easily made Bladescape just log on from a different device for an additional ip to be associated with it.Last edited by flat_footed; 2021-06-07 at 10:25 PM.
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2021-06-08, 12:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Sooo... First things first, the Vig needs to be dealt with. He is more likely to be a wolf now, but even on the off chance that he town, either completely incompetent or the wolves know him and can direct his kill via madness.
He is not useful anymore, he is a risk.
Apogees partner should know hisidentity and can out him.
I would suggest him to delay doing so. We don't want a single clear target now, we want a single clear target at the end of the day and discussion before.
A bit more is about to follow before I'm at work.
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@Gac can you clarify if "you" in this context is similar or plural?
If you compare this fluff with last time there are three things in common. Laughter, light and lighting.
Lighting is clear. Zeus Vig.
Laughter... Dionysus, either madness or party.
What is the light power?Last edited by Rogan; 2021-06-08 at 12:35 AM. Reason: auto correct
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2021-06-08, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
@totadile: weird. Really weird. I should have been killed with fire several times over.
And I guess we're killing Bladescape?
*glances back at reads list*
Oops. Okay, hopefully that's got my "messing stuff up" quota done and I can be accurate now.
Busy this morning but will be able to dig my teeth into some more solving this afternoon.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
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2021-06-08, 01:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
The more likely thing is, the Vig is wolf.
But let's try to find out if there would be a way for team wolf to find him?
One, there might be suspicion by analysis. There is someone I could see as wolf, but nothing too concrete and for the reason stating above, I'm not going to share this line of thought right now.
On the mechanical front... AV could have said something in the dead chat. This would require her to know the killer AND the Highway to Hades being a wolf. Possible, but unlikely.
The other child of hades could have used Bats Power to infiltrate a QT of Apogee. Requires a specific role a lucky roll to get a QT where the role was discussed. Unlikely, but more likely than 1.
Apogee could have a wolf partner.
Unless Apogee can clarify about the "you" part, this is still possible. Requires bad luck on the RNG front. Again, unlikely.
So yeah. More pointers for a wolf vig, I guess...
And, as stated above. We need to kill the Vig even if he is town. We need to be certain of his alignment and he must not be allowed to be controlled by the wolves.
Agreed. You should really pick option 2, claim victory and stay in game to help town.
As a scanner, what can you tell us about Jeens power? Just to be sure here. He was supposed to target you, after all.
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Yes, I agree that switching back was unfortunate for my reputation. Nothing I can do to change this now.
Any comment on my reasons for switching? As in, do you, personally believe that Xi was blocked, preventing a kill? Or was there another reason for only one death?
And if there was another reason, does it apply for this night as well?
We should analyze the possibilities again, with a focus on the options that can or can't apply on both nights.
But we know there was a redirection last night (night 1, with night 2 being this night). So, if we assume that madness will be visible in the night descriptio, it would have to be laughter or lights.
I agree with the hope of libro having Intel. We need to get rid of shroedingers snow wolf. And I think, learning by scry would be better than by kill, as long as we have other targets available.
We should keep in mind the possibility of snow being able to change her parents, so Libro can't clear her 100%, but it would help her gaining some credibility.
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I will cast my vote when I'm back from work.Last edited by Rogan; 2021-06-08 at 02:00 AM. Reason: clarification
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2021-06-08, 03:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Bladescape. That said, do we have confirmation for the roleblocker, vortexer and medic's actions?
@flat_footed did you get something like "Your target is a wolf" or was there the actual name "bladescape"? Because in the first case you could have been redirected (Here the redirecter would have been Town, or they wouldn't have made you target a Wolf).
If flat_footed has confirmation then bladescape is surely a wolf, though this means the vig could've been redirected... Do we know who the vig wanted to target? @gac3 if one doesn't use their power and gets redirected, does the power go off anyway or does nothing happen because the player wasn't using it?
If we know the vig wasn't going to target Apogee1 and can refuse to use the power we don't need to lynch them. Although they were suspicious as hell even yesterday, so it wouldn't be bad either way.
Do we know what happened to the wolf kill? If the medic saved someone or the Ares child lost a life no worries- if neither of these are true chances are the roleblocker stopped the kill again tonight, in which case we should probably write down who got roleblocked as the likely next lynch target.
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Redirecter, not vortexer. The vortexer's dead.
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2021-06-08, 04:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 06:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
People who voted Xihirli yesterday
(Ignoring myself)
rogue_alchemist started the wagon and spent a lot of time arguing the case to kill her. Not a wolf.
Rogan was next on board, but I don’t see anything clearing about the vote at that point.
Totadile jumped between wagons several times, ending up on Xihirli which is... not something I see a wolf doing. Also not a wolf.
Apogee1 is a dead mason. (RIP. Thanks for believing me.)
JeenLeen is 99% clear - there’s a world where they feel obliged to bus because of their claimed win-con/not wanting to kill another neutral claimant but I think that’s highly improbable at this point.
MornShine and Valmark’s late votes were what actually got Xihirli killed. Not wolves.
flat_footed is also clear for outing Bladescape - I can’t see why wolf!flat would claim a guilty on a Bladescape of either alignment.
Bladescape is an outed wolf. (If he somehow isn’t I think I’ll lose whatever shreds of sanity I still have left.)
That leaves:
Book Wombat
CaoimhinTheCape
Elenna
Libro
Murska
Rogan
Shal06
Zelphas
...yeah, I’m good with thinking the remaining wolves are in that list.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-08, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
As tempting as it is to keep saying I'm town to see how much I can fray Snow's psyche before flipping, there's something else I can do that is relevant. And to be honest there's no way I'm flipping this lynch.
Hey Neutrals, throw me a PM and I'll set up QTs for us to discuss how we can help you."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-06-08, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
There was once a crooked wolf,
Who talked a crooked while,
And had a crooked sixpence,
Upon his crooked style,
He bought a crooked cat,
Who caught a crooked mouse,
And they all lived together in the dead chat.
Or they will I guess?"Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-06-08, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Since we've got Blade, I'm going back and grabbing any quotes involving him, see what we see. Skipping posts where a dead player voiced opinions of him and the posts that didn't have content.
Spoiler: Bladescape
Libro puts a random vote on Blade.
Put suspicion on two Neutrals and Shal. Says Murska is OK. Likes Jeen (another Neutral).
Replies Blade about suspicion on Batcat, Emmy, Shal.
This was in relation to Snow misclaiming her role.
Bladescape:
Put suspicion on Shal early, liked Musrka's post early.
Does not like Cao Day 1, changed his stance over Night 1.
Suspicious of Zelph if Bat was wolf.
Mentioned analysis was going to Apogee, curious to see that but I'm not sure if it will really help - could have been a deliberate attempt at bussing some of his buddies. Apparantly Xi was #2 so... yeah.
Pushes Snow Day 2, I'll assume she's really Neutral.
Didn't quote it, but there was a little bit of back and forth between Blade and Totadile on what someone meant. Probably worth taking a look at but I've already spent too long reading through.
Vote Count:
Bladescape (8): Flat_Footed, CaoimhinTheCape, Totadileplayz, Elenna, Zelphas, Snowblaze, Valmark, Murska
Not Voting:
No Posts: Bladescape, BookWombat, Jeenleen, Libro, Mornshine, Rogan, Rogue_Alchemist, Shal06
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2021-06-08, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Obvious vote to bladescape.
I wonder if someone has the Pizza Deliveryman role, would be funny.Every day...
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2021-06-08, 10:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
The Wolf Bladescape Confirmed it himself. He Admits that Flat_Footed scried him. So, We knew because Bladescape admitted that he knows that power was used on him. So, it doesn't really matter since Flat_Footed Saw Bladescape confirm in front of everyone he was actually targetted by himself.
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2021-06-08, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Right! Forgot that Xi was the Magic Zeus Child.
Though there are two redirecters tecnically, thinking about it- the Hermes child and the Dyonisus child.
Still, there's no way a vortexing could have happened yeah.
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Ah! Gotcha. Geez I really lost a lot of info, shouldn't check stuff right after waking up xD
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2021-06-08, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
bladescape has confirmed it themselves so no point not voting, but based on my night powers I have questions for Flat_footed.
So I was definitely redirected again. I also have questions for you, Valmark.
Thank you, I am definitely town, but there seems to be something hinky up. I don't want to reveal too much for fear of giving the wolves more information to piece together roles. I messaged my Apogee QT this morning, so hopefully their sibling will respond.
Spoiler: real life[/spoilerI am not going to be able to do much analysis today. I was involved in a workplace incident involving hazardous chemicals yesterday. As the victim and the lead of the response team, I have a lot going on. I am fine, no acute symptoms and shouldn't be any long-term effects either. I was lucky with how it all happened, but just letting yall know why I won't be going deep into analysis or making big arguments again today.Last edited by rogue_alchemist; 2021-06-08 at 12:24 PM.
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2021-06-08, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
My thought was that the redirect would change the target from "no one" to whoever they chose.
That said, announcement incoming. I told them, they could make the announcement. So I'll wait to hear from them.
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2021-06-08, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Wow... I thought my chances of survival were close to 0, but now I can see me living some more.
I still need to be open and honest.
Hello everybody. My name is Rogan, Son of Zeus. I killed two important Town persons.
So, this would make me the most successful wolf so far, if I actually were a wolf. But I am town.
If you read my posts again, it will probably be obvious. I did not trust Apogee day and night 1. Only claimed day 2, after a horrible shot.
I did not trust AV to be honest and I wanted to avoid the obvious targets, since I was afraid of other roles interferences.
Day two, I was in contact with Apogee and shared my thoughts and ideas. I also was quite vocal in my attack on Xi. I removed my vote since I did not receive a lot of support at that time and I was afraid of lynching a town.
Night 2, my target was Zelphas, on Apogees command. I was targeted by madness and was forced to kill Apogee.
I was going into the day with the honest conviction that I would have to die.
I still think my death will be useful for town, for multiple reasons.
Now, there is another way. We have one wolf claim. If he is the madness induction power, they won't be able to change my targets again.
I would even be willing to kill myself, since it would help town.
If he has another role, the child of dionysus has to make me drunk, otherwise it's likely I will kill another town tonight...
Spoiler: Reasons for killing me
You have no reason to trust me very much. My death would remove any doubt.
My death will let the Champ of Hera win. This is most likely Jeen. He has stated he is willing to help town with his vote and I hope he will keep his word. If he does not win after my death, he is likely a wolf. He had a reason to believe that the Champ of Hera is in play (Xis role info). By the way, Jeen, I did not target you because I thought helping town would be more important.
As long as the wolves have the power to change my target, they can use it to gain another kill. Or they can use it to force a town role to keep me in check.
It will be proof the madness power is a wolf.
Spoiler: Questions you should ask yourself and/ or discuss
Why was there no wolf kill.
Did the wolves get really lucky by redirecting me or did they know my power? If they knew, how?
Apogee told me, he had claims from both Hades powers. We know one is town. The other one is more dubious. Why didn't he get AV back.
I was asking in my QT with Apogee and his anonymous ally to get some more time before they out me. I did not receive a reply. No idea if this is important, but I wanted you to know.
Feel free to ask me any questions.
I claim now instead of in the morning (my timezone) since I really think there needs to be discussion. Now there is a claimed wolf, so adding another good target to the discussion will only increase the number of arguments you can make.
Oh, Jeen? If I get a chance, I prommis I won't shoot you. If I can do so without hurting town, I will do so.
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2021-06-08, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 01:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-06-08, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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