Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson

[CaoimhinTheCape]

The kill was a backstab so it couldn't possibly have been Rogan. Likely that Rogan hit the Ares child (unlikely that he targeted the baned character).

flat_footed did scry, since we lynched a wolf due to his scry. He never claimed to be going to scry, did he?

I believe Flat_Footed was intended to scry, but we'll have to wait and see. As far as I know, Flat_Footed hasn't been online since the Day began. There's a few power roles that could have information so we'll have to wait for that to come in.

For now, I'll vote for the one person who was on my suspect list and AV's from yesterday. Libro.

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Good to see that Flat_Footed confirmed a scry, but you also just gave some private info about yourself in that QT link. Not sure if that was intended.

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Vote Count:
Rogan (1): Totadileplayz
Libro (2): CaoimhinTheCape

Not Voting: Valmark
No Posts: BookWombat, Flat_Footed, JeenLeen, Libro, Mornshine, Murska, Rogan, Rogue_Alchemist, Shal06, Snowblaze

[totadileplayz]

I believe Flat_Footed was intended to scry, but we'll have to wait and see. As far as I know, Flat_Footed hasn't been online since the Day began. There's a few power roles that could have information so we'll have to wait for that to come in.

For now, I'll vote for the one person who was on my suspect list and AV's from yesterday. Libro.

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Good to see that Flat_Footed confirmed a scry, but you also just gave some private info about yourself in that QT link. Not sure if that was intended.

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Vote Count:
Rogan (1): Totadileplayz
Libro (2): CaoimhinTheCape

Not Voting: Valmark
No Posts: BookWombat, Flat_Footed, JeenLeen, Libro, Mornshine, Murska, Rogan, Rogue_Alchemist, Shal06, Snowblaze

Oh it was. I figure that telling town I'm the doctor and showing the QT shows my sincerity on this matter. Something doesn't stack and I needed to do that to prove it

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From Gac3 Totadileplayz was not the target of a kill

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I targeted Flat Footed with the healing waters to be clear.

[Valmark]

He told me it yesterday.
Well, town may have a chance to win it here! I'll be scrying tonight to see if we can't net that last wolf.
https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/7UWMc87pMLdP

That does look weird, since flat_footed couldn't Scry back then (AV was already alive, right?). An explanation would probably be great.

[CaoimhinTheCape]

I targeted Flat Footed with the healing waters to be clear.

Right - but there's a third option, outside of Rogan performing the kill or hitting Flat_Footed. Rogan could have targeted the Ares: Hard To Kill and taken down one of their lives.

[totadileplayz]

That does look weird, since flat_footed couldn't Scry back then (AV was already alive, right?). An explanation would probably be great.

Prophecy (Apollo) was one of the powers Bladescape had when he died.

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Right - but there's a third option, outside of Rogan performing the kill or hitting Flat_Footed. Rogan could have targeted the Ares: Hard To Kill and taken down one of their lives.

Oh that was me more saying Flat_Footed could not have scried as he was the only one that could have caused me to change targets and I wasn't attacked last night so that doesn't solve the issue. Rogan's kill is missing, and Flat_Footed actively lied about what he was going to do.

[CaoimhinTheCape]

Oh that was me more saying Flat_Footed could not have scried as he was the only one that could have caused me to change targets and I wasn't attacked last night so that doesn't solve the issue. Rogan's kill is missing, and Flat_Footed actively lied about what he was going to do.

Oh.

OH.

OOOhhhh.


Yeah, let's see what Flat_Footed says about his action last night. Regardless, I still disagree with the vote on Rogan given how he shot Elenna Night 3 and how the description was a knife in the back rather than lightning (though, knife in the back does not make me feel good).

[Valmark]

Prophecy (Apollo) was one of the powers Bladescape had when he died.

Uh, @gac3, would a child of Hades be able to not only use the Scanner power but also the one-time powers the real Scanner had when they died?

[totadileplayz]

Oh.

OH.

OOOhhhh.


Yeah, let's see what Flat_Footed says about his action last night. Regardless, I still disagree with the vote on Rogan given how he shot Elenna Night 3 and how the description was a knife in the back rather than lightning (though, knife in the back does not make me feel good).

I'll admit your point of the knife in the back was something I initially didn't realize thus I felt both were relatively likely while Rogan would be the easier lynch due to other people's interests in him.

But yeah I have to vote for Flat_Footed

[Valmark]

I have to say, even if it appears he lied trying to lynch the now Seer-capable player that already got a wolf lynched sounds like an objectively awful idea.

[totadileplayz]

I have to say, even if it appears he lied trying to lynch the now Seer-capable player that already got a wolf lynched sounds like an objectively awful idea.

It's the fact he lied and i can't possibly see that it was in town's interest. If he as town believed I was a wolf and chose to redirect me he knew the only two possibilities are I attacked myself and I'd keep my lid shut, or I wouldn't attack myself and the same thing would happen. I did reccomend I was scried for a reason last night to verify myself. And he didn't scry last night which was an objective lie one that could have pointed us to a wolf or confirmed someone was town.

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Also I have to admit AV's gotten into my head.

[JeenLeen]

Rogan was supposed to target Murska, supposed Child of Ares. My guess is he successfully did so, and Murska is Hard to Kill and lost a life.
I told the wolves I was going to void Rogan, but didn't. Here's the text I got: "You lose track of Valmark. But Snowblaze is not a child of Zeus."

Also, AV suspects the Sibling as a wolf. Don't know if she cleared them last Night or not, but (if you carefully read Apogee's reveal), it doesn't really say both are Town. Maybe there was Narrator-confirmation we aren't aware of, but based on QT views, she feels like every one of Apogee's network posts was potentially compromised. Could be something innocent, like even sharing it with batcathat in deadchat to let him win, but... well, passing on that suspicion.

Anyway, Rogan.
My top wolf picks (based on info AV shared + deductions) are the Sibling (whoever that is), Murska, Libro, and Snowblaze (if Libro flips wolf).
I don't see how flat_footed could be a wolf. Where did he lie?

Rogan, how about you shoot Shal06 tonight in case he's the retribution-kill Ares?

[Snowblaze]

...okay. Right.

I'm guessing from Jeen's claim that they targeted Valmark, who hid behind me.

If totadile is telling the truth, the only person who could have redirected them is flat_footed who... doesn't make sense as a wolf. I think that confusion feels like the weird kind of AV plot.

And... I struggle to believe that wolves would be in such a bad position if the Sibling were a wolf. Because they would have all the information they needed to make sure wolves could kill exactly who they needed to and not get repeatedly roleblocked.

The problem being that none of that tells me who the wolves are! My POE remains the same as yesterday, but I'll wait to see if anyone wants to claim an incriminating result before I decide who to vote for.

[Rogan]

Rogan was supposed to target Murska, supposed Child of Ares. My guess is he successfully did so, and Murska is Hard to Kill and lost a life.
I told the wolves I was going to void Rogan, but didn't. Here's the text I got: "You lose track of Valmark. But Snowblaze is not a child of Zeus."

Also, AV suspects the Sibling as a wolf. Don't know if she cleared them last Night or not, but (if you carefully read Apogee's reveal), it doesn't really say both are Town. Maybe there was Narrator-confirmation we aren't aware of, but based on QT views, she feels like every one of Apogee's network posts was potentially compromised. Could be something innocent, like even sharing it with batcathat in deadchat to let him win, but... well, passing on that suspicion.

Anyway, Rogan.
My top wolf picks (based on info AV shared + deductions) are the Sibling (whoever that is), Murska, Libro, and Snowblaze (if Libro flips wolf).
I don't see how flat_footed could be a wolf. Where did he lie?

Rogan, how about you shoot Shal06 tonight in case he's the retribution-kill Ares?

I can't confirm everything in this post at the moment, but I can say that everything I read here fits to the things I know.

I will think about shooting Shal when the night begins. Right now I will have to concentrate on the day.

I think a knife to the back would be a fitting way to describe a kill by a wolf sibling. Therefore, my vote goes to... the living sibling.

I will vote with a name later. Currently, my knowledge is incomplete.

I would also love to hear from Flat and Tot.
I think that Tot accused Flat of lying about the power used. Is this correct?


Oh, and something very important!

Let our parents hear my vow! By the river Styx, I swear I will avenge this death or die trying!

[Valmark]

Yes I hid behind Snowblaze.

I Apogee1's mason buddy is a wolf I will be extremely entertained :p

Aaaanyway... Shal06, while we wait for more info.

Has the medic saved anybody until now? Checking wether totadileplayz's claim clears him or not. I seem to recall the unknown medic being towncored but I don't remember why (in my defende, I literally just woke up).

[MornShine]

Alright. Here's the thing. I'm the Sibling. Apogee's confirmation can be found here, for what good it does.

Also, I'm town. Yay?

I've been pretty inactive, partly because I've got IRL stuff going on, partly because I'm fairly new and incredibly nervous. And then AV re-arose when Apogee died.

I'm currently on vacation, so my access to wifi and posting schedule is fairly limited, but I'll check this once more tonight in case y'all need any more information (I have access to Apogee's QTs, but I'm a bit leery to expose important and trusted townsfolk).

I can confirm that Murksa has claimed Hard to Kill, to Apogee.

EDIT: Also, Libro confirmed via Apogee QT that Murksa is a child of Ares.

Also, Shal06 has not posted in Apogee's QT since Day 2, either.

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Oop. Actually.

Valmark has claimed the Hermes hiding-person. Per AV's direction, Valmark purportedly hid behind them last night.

Valmark's role claim, in QT, is thusly:

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You obviously already know but I'm the Child of Hermes with the power of hiding behind someone and making them get targeted.

Though if the one I hide behind is killed I'm killed too.

However, Valmark is not dead. Perhaps we should rectify that.

EDIT: Valmark has kindly pointed out that I badly, badly misread the dates.

[Snowblaze]

Yes I hid behind Snowblaze.

I Apogee1's mason buddy is a wolf I will be extremely entertained :p

Aaaanyway... Shal06, while we wait for more info.

Has the medic saved anybody until now? Checking wether totadileplayz's claim clears him or not. I seem to recall the unknown medic being towncored but I don't remember why (in my defende, I literally just woke up).

iirc AV said they believed wolves’ kill hit a bane night three. But I don’t think we have solid proof.

Also can you explain why you targeted me rather than AV last night?

[Valmark]

Oop. Actually.

Valmark has claimed the Hermes hiding-person. Per AV's direction, Valmark purportedly hid behind them last night.

Valmark's role claim, in QT, is thusly:

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You obviously already know but I'm the Child of Hermes with the power of hiding behind someone and making them get targeted.

Though if the one I hide behind is killed I'm killed too.

However, Valmark is not dead. Perhaps we should rectify that.

No, AV told me to hide behind Snowblaze.

[MornShine]

Mm.

https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/C94uhGP9HF9g

[Valmark]

iirc AV said they believed wolves’ kill hit a bane night three. But I don’t think we have solid proof.

Also can you explain why you targeted me rather than AV last night?

According to a QT conversation I had that night's baner was not the 'official' baner (yeah, I've asked some stuff already).

AV told me it was extremely unlikely that they'd target you, so I hid behind you. Or rather, for that I should hide behind you.

Mm.

https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/C94uhGP9HF9g

That was two nights ago, not last night.

[MornShine]

Oy vey.

Oops.

Back to Murksa, then.

[Murska]

Uh, so why me? I claimed Hard to Kill and then turned out to be Hard to Kill when you attempted to kill me, just as I had asked you to. I've also been scried as Town, and as Child of Ares, and the Disguiser can only affect one of those two at a time.

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Also, I have a feeling that if the Mason partner was a Wolf, then the Wolf nightkill would have hit important targets before that, rather than being RBd or Baned several times?

[Book Wombat]

I used my Drunken Fun power on Murska last night on AvatarVecna's request.

I'm kinda feeling Murska. There's other people I'm more suspicious of, but there's nobody I'm more worried about. I need to be sure that my results are trustworthy, and I can't do that if he could be using Deceptive Appearance.

[Valmark]

Uh, so why me? I claimed Hard to Kill and then turned out to be Hard to Kill when you attempted to kill me, just as I had asked you to. I've also been scried as Town, and as Child of Ares, and the Disguiser can only affect one of those two at a time.

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Also, I have a feeling that if the Mason partner was a Wolf, then the Wolf nightkill would have hit important targets before that, rather than being RBd or Baned several times?

Seconding this, though it could be that MornShine wasn't active.

I wasn't going to vote you anyway but good to know you were scried and can't be the one with Deceptive Appearance- though when did that happen? Last Night (I mean the one before this, when AV was alive)?

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On another note @totadileplayz any specific reason to protect bladescape?

[rogue_alchemist]

I don't know. The problem with these town networks is when the person at the center of them gets taken out and we lose A LOT of information. I don't know what AV did have cooking or what people are claiming he had cooking. It is easy to hide when you've been silent or only in contact through QT's it's also easy to confuse information if you claim that AV told you to do something and he is no longer here to verify or deny. So to those who are sharing QT's that helps verify, though we have to be careful about not giving away too much information. I'm wondering if it isn't time for everyone to claim and see if we can't sus out the wolf through that. Even if people claim truthfully we don't have 100% what roles are wolves and what roles are town, but it will still help with figuring out who is doing what and when and why. To that end, MornShine would be needed to at least verify that people are claiming the same thing in public. I know we haven't vetted MornShine 100%, but I will say that I followed them last night and they didn't target anyone, so we *know* (within reason) that they are the other sibling and have no night power, but that doesn't mean they couldn't direct the wolf nk, however I can say for sure last night that they did not target anyone and so they were not the killer at least. I claimed yesterday. I am still responding to my work crisis from last week and probably won't have time to go through and pull everyone's claims thus far, but my impression is the vast majority have claimed already anyways. MornShine outed a few people (or verified claims, I can't remember). Let's try to fill in the gaps and figure out who did what. I also said who I targeted and what I found. I would love to know who targeted me N1 and how I ended up tracking myself, but that is more personal curiosity than real need to help town. I'll try to check in and do what I can, but I can't promise it'll be much.

[Valmark]

For what's worth, AV told me a Wolf was definitely getting blocked tonight- that implies she was sure that the roleblocker's target was a Wolf.

...we'd have to know who they are though.

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Note: AV didn't say roleblocking. Could have been a redirect.

[totadileplayz]

Seconding this, though it could be that MornShine wasn't active.

I wasn't going to vote you anyway but good to know you were scried and can't be the one with Deceptive Appearance- though when did that happen? Last Night (I mean the one before this, when AV was alive)?

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On another note @totadileplayz any specific reason to protect bladescape?

Apogee told me to said he was needed to stay alive for the plan that night to work.

[JeenLeen]

To be clear, I purposefully targeted Valmark. I thought it'd be fun, if probably useless, to learn who they were hiding behind. And I didn't want to void Rogan, since I was hoping he'd kill Beast-Murska and get killed in the process, thereby making me win.

I believe MornShine as Town based on the timing of Xi's lynch. If MornShine is a wolf, that was a bold move or dire miscalculation, and I'd rather conclude a legit towny move instead.
I'll also note that AV reaaally wanted to believe Apogee's sibling was Town. Just she was running all the paranoid scenarios, and noticed something funky with QuickTopics, so it came up. I only learned this because I had my Apogee/JeenLeen QT and my AV/JeenLeen QuickTopic. We had been talking via the Apogee one, but she suddenly switched to using the other one. When I asked why, she noted a fear that the network was compromised.

I'm voting Rogan for my win-con and because I don't want to be accidentally killed by a Son of Ares other than Murska, if one is in play.

I don't know. The problem with these town networks is when the person at the center of them gets taken out and we lose A LOT of information. I don't know what AV did have cooking or what people are claiming he had cooking. It is easy to hide when you've been silent or only in contact through QT's it's also easy to confuse information if you claim that AV told you to do something and he is no longer here to verify or deny. So to those who are sharing QT's that helps verify, though we have to be careful about not giving away too much information. I'm wondering if it isn't time for everyone to claim and see if we can't sus out the wolf through that. Even if people claim truthfully we don't have 100% what roles are wolves and what roles are town, but it will still help with figuring out who is doing what and when and why. To that end, MornShine would be needed to at least verify that people are claiming the same thing in public. I know we haven't vetted MornShine 100%, but I will say that I followed them last night and they didn't target anyone, so we *know* (within reason) that they are the other sibling and have no night power, but that doesn't mean they couldn't direct the wolf nk, however I can say for sure last night that they did not target anyone and so they were not the killer at least. I claimed yesterday. I am still responding to my work crisis from last week and probably won't have time to go through and pull everyone's claims thus far, but my impression is the vast majority have claimed already anyways. MornShine outed a few people (or verified claims, I can't remember). Let's try to fill in the gaps and figure out who did what. I also said who I targeted and what I found. I would love to know who targeted me N1 and how I ended up tracking myself, but that is more personal curiosity than real need to help town. I'll try to check in and do what I can, but I can't promise it'll be much.

Everyone claiming sounds good. Almost if not everyone has claimed or their claim has been deduced, so it's not like this reveals much the wolves wouldn't already know or at least be able to deduce.

I'll also note that AV was probably lying (to some degree) to some folk as a way to contain intel as she tests potential wolves. Her belief was there are 2 wolves left (or at least that's what she told me, but that's what she needed me to believe lest I void Rogan... so not sure how seriously she believed that). She also feared (e.g., saw an unlikely possibility) that one of the 'towncore' was possibly a wolf, due to a bold or convoluted scenario.

With MornShine claiming Child of Demeter, I'd say the wolves are one of Shal06, Murska, Libro, or Snowblaze. Snowblaze only possible if Libro is a wolf and lied about her parentage to cover for her.

[totadileplayz]

To be clear, I purposefully targeted Valmark. I thought it'd be fun, if probably useless, to learn who they were hiding behind. And I didn't want to void Rogan, since I was hoping he'd kill Beast-Murska and get killed in the process, thereby making me win.

I believe MornShine as Town based on the timing of Xi's lynch. If MornShine is a wolf, that was a bold move or dire miscalculation, and I'd rather conclude a legit towny move instead.
I'll also note that AV reaaally wanted to believe Apogee's sibling was Town. Just she was running all the paranoid scenarios, and noticed something funky with QuickTopics, so it came up. I only learned this because I had my Apogee/JeenLeen QT and my AV/JeenLeen QuickTopic. We had been talking via the Apogee one, but she suddenly switched to using the other one. When I asked why, she noted a fear that the network was compromised.

I'm voting Rogan for my win-con and because I don't want to be accidentally killed by a Son of Ares other than Murska, if one is in play.



Everyone claiming sounds good. Almost if not everyone has claimed or their claim has been deduced, so it's not like this reveals much the wolves wouldn't already know or at least be able to deduce.

I'll also note that AV was probably lying (to some degree) to some folk as a way to contain intel as she tests potential wolves. Her belief was there are 2 wolves left (or at least that's what she told me, but that's what she needed me to believe lest I void Rogan... so not sure how seriously she believed that). She also feared (e.g., saw an unlikely possibility) that one of the 'towncore' was possibly a wolf, due to a bold or convoluted scenario.

With MornShine claiming Child of Demeter, I'd say the wolves are one of Shal06, Murska, Libro, or Snowblaze. Snowblaze only possible if Libro is a wolf and lied about her parentage to cover for her.

Shal06's power is dead she was the medium/resurrectionist.

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So that leaves Libro or Murska to lynch.

[JeenLeen]

The wolves have marked me for dead, so, uh, Valmark, don't hide behind me tonight. Not that you probably would, but
https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/VXLChVercZbn8

Shal06's power is dead she was the medium/resurrectionist.

That vindicates her, eh? Can't see a wolf rezzing the seer.
So Libro, Murska, or Snowblaze.

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. I would love to know who targeted me N1 and how I ended up tracking myself, but that is more personal curiosity than real need to help town. I'll try to check in and do what I can, but I can't promise it'll be much.

Seems clear that was Elenna with Induce Madness. The only other redirect-ish power is Xi, and she was voided.

[Snowblaze]

Mmm... Libro or Murska. Yeah, probably at least one wolf in there, just a question of which to kill... I've had both as null all game so I honestly don't have much preference.

Let's go with Murska for now, to keep the wagons more even. And also because I want Libro to be town so you don't try to kill me again.