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    Yeah, Jeen deserves a victory.
    Jeen made absolutely no attempt to achieve his win-con at all.
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    Supagoof took the most blows and incidentally took exactly the same damage Xihirli inflicted.
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    Xihirli: Being a better target since 2015.
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    Xihirli, bastion of murder and betrayal.
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    Wow I missed a lot today. So, kill Xihirli?
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    Nobody else is gonna be right behind me, right now. Only Xihirli.
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    If Xi and I agree some more, I will start to doubt my own alignment!
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    I still prefer to see you as the dagger hanging over us all, Xi.

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    So who is the other child of demeter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Jeen made absolutely no attempt to achieve his win-con at all.
    I can attest as I'm pretty sure I was more actively aiming for his win-con then him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Jeen made absolutely no attempt to achieve his win-con at all.
    I had no real means to. I couldn't kill Rogan, he was verified towncore, and the wolves were in bad a spot to get him killed (and probably needed him to kill some townies for them).
    I did try some stuff to keep the game slowed. Like, I knew Zelphas wasn't wolf -- wolves told me so -- but AV also knew that.

    The only thing I could have done to slow things more was to void him and save Elenna, but that... well, yeah, by that point it seemed best to side with Town and hope they were unreasonably merciful.

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    That is, not disagreeing with Xi, but also there wasn't much more I could do.

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    And I spent four Days being suspicious of totadileplayz, this was incredible. I thought that happened only with gac3.

    Gg Snowblaze- that was a great post and you came back in style. Even if you lost :p

    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    So who is the other child of demeter?
    MornShine.
    I won an argument with my GM -15/08/2017- (20:32 GMT +1)

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    Or, rather, I feared if I slowed the game down too much by helping the wolves (in hopes they NKed Rogan before they lost), I'd get killed by the town.

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    Yeah, Murska could have been added earlier if I had really thought through things. Totadile laid it all out but it was just being over cautious/paranoid (and me being the forgetful one about AV's scry).



    In general I wasn't on my best game this go around, defending a Neutral and then Wolf in the first two days. But I also can't believe how lucky town got with everything. Day 1 we got rid of a couple Neutrals that wouldn't have been great for town, Day 2 we had two Wolf wagons, never lynched a Townie and only had 3 Townies die (one of them twice). We did have a plan for the night that would have given Jeen the win (and pointed us at Snow) but we weren't doing that till Libro flipped.


    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    So who is the other child of demeter?
    MornShine. Not sure where the suspicion of MornShine started but that was going to be cleared last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmark View Post
    And I spent four Days being suspicious of totadileplayz, this was incredible. I thought that happened only with gac3.

    Gg Snowblaze- that was a great post and you came back in style. Even if you lost :p



    MornShine.
    It is in my best interest to help neutrals for future games. If I'm a known champion for neutrals during my town games when I'm neutral people are more likely to say that I should win myself and may help with my goals.
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    The other child of Demeter was, in fact, me. And I was town.

    AV's reasons for not trusting me were pretty good. I have no idea why there are so many unique views, aside that I have been travelling and thus have had (I think one) additional IP address.

    EDIT: And there are five unique views of the me-gac3-Apogee1 QT. Which, by mandate, has only us three in it.

    I will say, however, the lack of activity is usually due to me being so unsure of my reads-- and generally for decent reasons, it appears, save for Xi-- that I wasn't willing to post. Also, going through 30+ pages to analyze messages seemed a bit too time-consuming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    It is in my best interest to help neutrals for future games. If I'm a known champion for neutrals during my town games when I'm neutral people are more likely to say that I should win myself and may help with my goals.
    Well, it wasn't just that. Trying to lynch someone you know catched a wolf for example was also effective at making me think you a wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmark View Post
    Well, it wasn't just that. Trying to lynch someone you know catched a wolf for example was also effective at making me think you a wolf.
    I really didn't care for this game because I knew nothing I could possibly say would make me any more or less towny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    I really didn't care for this game because I knew nothing I could possibly say would make me any more or less towny.
    It seemed to me that the play Apogee did D1 really set things up so well for Town, that it was really hard for the wolves to lose. Especially after the Xi lynch D2 (though I guess it was going to be a wolf either way), the NK getting blocked N1 and N2, and bladescape getting scried for D2. Once bladescape got hit, it seemed about done. Even if Libro and Snowblaze were in a relatively strong position.

    This makes me think that, in an all-power game like this, the wolf powers should get some sort of boost beyond what their power would be if they were merely Town. Or if not a mechanical boost (since that might be detectable and out them), maybe a info boost. Part of the reason I suspected the Zeuslings who got a warning to be wolf was because I figured that might have been a bonus to help the wolves, but I see it was given to both.
    Though I guess 5 wolves to start is also a good balance. If things hadn't gone so unluckily with targeting N1 and N2, the wolves definitely could have stood a strong chance even despite the network and average powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    I really didn't care for this game because I knew nothing I could possibly say would make me any more or less towny.
    I mean, many of the things you said made you less towny (from my POV) so I don't think I agree.

    Luckily, others were smarter then I was :p
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    End of Day

    You all seem very confused as your friend has died a second time. After much debate, one of you bursts into song and announces that he and a friend were the killers. In grief over his actions, Rogan disappeared into the woods with JeenLeen and only Jeen returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmark View Post
    And I spent four Days being suspicious of totadileplayz, this was incredible. I thought that happened only with gac3.
    Is that my reputation?

    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    The game hasn't ended until gac is online.
    I logged on and saw dead people had posted before I realized the wolves surrendered. Wouldn't it have been funny if it had been some kind of ploy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gac3 View Post
    I logged on and saw dead people had posted before I realized the wolves surrendered. Wouldn't it have been funny if it had been some kind of ploy?
    Yes that is the precise reason why dead people shouldn't be posting before the narrator confirms it.
    Also did Rogan Surrender?

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    Don't forget to subscribe to the mafia hub if you enjoyed this game. Either way, I'll share the link to the next one, when it starts recruiting

    https://forums.giantitp.com/showthre...-POSTS!/page13

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    My guess is he was planning to target himself tonight, so if the game had gone on I would have won.

    Here's the result I got when I scried myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by from gac3
    Jeenleen is a child of Zeus. Secret win condition achieved. You have discovered that rather than being a mortal, you are a god. As you target yourself, Hera reveals to you that you are the child of her and Zeus. You have one the game. Special option unlocked... Apocalypse? Use one time activation of a kill all other players action? This will allow you to ascend to Olympus.

    Jk... But seriously: Jeenleen is not a child of Zeus
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    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    Yes that is the precise reason why dead people shouldn't be posting before the narrator confirms it.
    Also did Rogan Surrender?
    Yeah. I messaged Rogan a while ago, once everyone pretty much believed Jeen and the wolves started talking about surrender. I wasn't sure how best to handle a win condition "survive until both were the other is dead" when the wolves surrender. I hadn't thought through the option of both living to the end of the game either way. So I asked if in that hypothetical, they would surrender to the one who wanted to kill them. Since they won either way, they chose to surrender.

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    Deadchat link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeenLeen View Post
    My guess is he was planning to target himself tonight, so if the game had gone on I would have won.

    Here's the result I got when I scried myself.
    No matter the night if that was permitted town would have won

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    Spoiler: Jeens Victory
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    https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/uJngYK7dPNbpG (my QT with Gac)

    I was offered a chance to let Jeen win in case of a surrender. The alternative would have been a lynch vote for everyone to pick either me or him. While I tend to think he would win this vote, I had decided my own life is not as important as a town victory. On day 1. So when I got this offer, I did not need to think about it for a second.


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    https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/bRurbjU3KEaS

    https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/ByFQSLeWQ9nib

    The second is the original dead chat. The first is the after resurrection dead chat.

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    Underlining added to see how right I turned out to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarVecna View Post
    Ares (1 total, 1 town)
    Aphrodite (1 total, 1 scum)
    Hermes (2 total, 2 town)
    Dionysus (2 total, 1 town, 1 scum)

    Athena (1 total, 1 scum)
    Hephaestus (1 total, 1 scum)
    Zeus (2 total, 1 town, 1 scum)

    Hades (2 total, 2 town)
    Apollo (2 total, 2 town)
    Poseidon (1 total, 1 town)

    Demeter (2 total, 2 town)

    My thoughts:
    1) There's no wolves in the blue section. (correct)
    2) There's not more than one wolf in the teal section. (correct)
    3) There's not more than two wolf in the orange section. (incorrect)
    4) There's at least two wolves in the dark red section. (correct)
    Alas, right for all the wrong reasons, since apparently things really were assigned completely randomly.

    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape View Post
    But what I do want to do is put some pressure on AvatarVecna who has shown up and posted big long walls of so far obvious information. Everything she's put up has felt like a contribution without contribution.
    Maybe more obvious to some people than to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    I had decided my own life is not as important as a town victory. On day 1.
    An admirable conclusion more townies should make. What, bitter, me? Nahhhhhhh
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarVecna View Post

    An admirable conclusion more townies should make. What, bitter, me? Nahhhhhhh
    Unfortunately, this decision made me kill you. But hey, in the end everything went well.

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    I remember laughing so hard during night 1 and 2

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    I will you have you know everything I've said is from my perspective you don't like it? Great you know how I feel about working with the muck. I never lied about Flat_Footed he specifically told me he would do something and then he didn't do it even though he was going to be protected either way. No one who sees that is going to go yeah that checks out definitely towny. No people are going to call Bull**** on that ****. And The Same thing with Rogan if something happens repeatedly only to change your first instinct is going to be related to The one reason for all the night kills happening beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gac3 View Post
    I remember laughing so hard during night 1 and 2
    You got me so worried night 2 (gac3 said he was looking forward to how the night would turn out and that got me endlessly paranoid).
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    And just for your own information AV I was right I specifically told you you were going to be the one to die you ignored that and you died. Similarly I was also right that nothing stopped Snowblaze from being Decetive Appearance irregardless of Libro's alignment. Similarly I actually managed to lynch Xihirli. And the only reason why i thought Snowblaze was neutral was because of you guys but yet again I provided evidence and analysis saying they are a wolf.

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    So I wasn't "always wrong" i was given a set of information which allowed me to do analysis and convictions capable of making me figure out 2 of the wolves. My only problem this game was listening to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    And just for your own information AV I was right I specifically told you you were going to be the one to die you ignored that and you died. Similarly I was also right that nothing stopped Snowblaze from being Decetive Appearance irregardless of Libro's alignment. Similarly I actually managed to lynch Xihirli. And the only reason why i thought Snowblaze was neutral was because of you guys but yet again I provided evidence and analysis saying they are a wolf.

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    So I wasn't "always wrong" i was given a set of information which allowed me to do analysis and convictions capable of making me figure out 2 of the wolves. My only problem this game was listening to others.
    So I might have missed some things... Because I'm only kind of sure what is going on here, but at the very least AV didn't care if they died. They, in my opinion, were trying to protect the most powerful member of the town. (A power I was considering nerfing next time around.)

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    Was all of my reactions correct? No not possible but AV you specifically made me start worrying about town-core being compromised you really think that wouldn't distort someone's analysis capabilities?

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    That was an interesting game. I must say that chilling in the dead chat for the latter half was almost as educative as the first half and much less stressful.

    I can't believe Snow wasn't killed after my death. While I can see believing her claim over mine, the whole "Oops, I said the wrong name about myself" seemed so weird.

    For the next game I'm hoping for team mates, town or wolves matter less (though wolf would be fun to try... ) but it would be nice to have people on my side for moral support and keeping my worst ideas under wraps.

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