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Thread: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
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2021-06-02, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
See this sounds more like I have an informed opinion not just a casual read and see lots of people going this way kind of opinion.
I understand your plan, but I would really prefer not to possibly have it come down to a coinflip between me and a wolf. You have a 50/50 chance of hitting a wolf or a town. I like the alternative to setting it up to vote Emmy or BatCatHat so that if emmy can't manipulate it possible catches her in her own lie through the coin-toss. But of course I have a personal stake against your plan, so I know it carries little weight.
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This is the plan I like best!
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2021-06-02, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
I'm leery of schemes that require everyone to vote a certain way. Too easy for someone to mess it up, deliberately or not. Also I think it's better for town if Emmy stays in the game. (Also also, did Emmy ever actually confirm that their wincon was breaking a tie? Not sure if I missed something.)
EDIT: Ninja'd. I like the version where we test Emmy a little better, since the consequences for screwing up the test are lower. Still think it's likely to not work, though.Last edited by Elenna; 2021-06-02 at 02:57 PM.
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2021-06-02, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
We don't have to do the testing plan, but there is a way to do it where we don't risk any of the town and a truthful Emmy can keep herself safe.
Activity/everyone lining up their votes right could be an issue, but at the moment we have a comfortable amount of votes on BatCat. If we don't get a plan together, at least we'll still have the lynch we want.
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And if anyone breaks from where they're supposed to be voting, then we know to lynch them next.
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2021-06-02, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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I meant that really only confirms Emmy isn't lying about her power, not anything that matters more, like her alignment.
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Last edited by rogue_alchemist; 2021-06-02 at 03:17 PM.
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2021-06-02, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Screw it... I wanted to add quotes and everything, but there happened so much, I can't keep up right now. Still using mobile, with makes organizing harder...
So, I agree that Bat is very likely a wolf.
I don't think I can say anything new about it.
I would like to let you all know, I have a bad feeling about AV.
Some part of it might be her (?) wolf read for me, but there are multiple things that make me unhappy.
In my point of view, AV keeps her count of neutral players very low. And at least once, she ignored a statement that there might be multiple Neutrals.
I don't know what the reason for this behavior is, but it feels strange to me.
Another thing is Apogee.
When I directly asked if we should verify the claim and how we should go for it in order to avoid outing important roles, the response was basically, we can not verify the claim (baring a lynch / kill).
But later, she said something akin to "Trust, but verify".
Another thing that feels like a contradiction:
Knowing Apogee is Town (by killing) would be bad&boring. A sure way for town to win.
But on the other hand, there is the advice to trust Apogee.
How is a living Apogee with the trust of all the players different to a dead Apogee and a living Sibling?
About the possibilities of a wolf Apogee:
Either, the Role was not fixed at town, but random. In this case there would be a wolf team with very limited power and they try to get the best out of it.
@Gac Can you confirm that no role had a guaranteed alignment?
I DO think that it's very unlikely that the Siblings are in different teams.
@Gac Can you confirm the Siblings have to share the alignment?
I could see the Siblings not being in the game at all.
There are multiple Neutral claims and I could definitely see more than one being valid.
Even one Neutral would allow for the Siblings being out, but it's unlikely.
But if four roles or more are not active, the Siblings seem like good roles to exclude, since everybody can make QTs. The only powers they have are
They can trust each other.
Their QT is save against intruders. If I understand that one neutral power correctly.
I'd be glad for some Neutral to let me know if my points about AV are reasonable. Jeen? What do you think?
Of course, everybody else is welcome to share their thoughts as well
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Waiting for some replies about Jeens Plan before I change my Vote.
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2021-06-02, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Well, quite a bit has happened between my last post and this one. I don't really like the idea of trying to deadlock a vote and hope people are telling the truth, especially on day 1, but even with that it seems like I have to put my own vote back on
Batcathat.
If they're wolf (which seems most likely), then all well and good, and I'd want to keep an eye on CaomhintheCape (has at least a few times voted with Batcathat or voted on someone accusing Batcathat, but might just be coincidence).
If they're neutral (as they currently claim), then we've got a mystery to solve next week, since that would mean either Apogee was given a fake counterclaim or Apogee was lying to the group, which opens up its own huge can of worms.
If they're town (utterly unlikely), then there's even more confusion, and more of a mystery to solve.
No matter what, we'll get some info for the town, hopefully.
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2021-06-02, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
I was asked to confirm whether some roles had to be certain alignments.
When making the game I used a RNG to decide alignments. With the exception of neutral roles being rolls not included in the OP, no role was 100% guaranteed to be a certain alignment. Though I did use arbitrary odds for many of them to make them more to be a town or wolf role. Alignment assignment was not impacted by the results of anyone else's alignment roll unless you count the fact that each wolf made it less likely there would be another.
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2021-06-02, 03:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Last edited by Rogan; 2021-06-03 at 02:34 PM.
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While posting next to the spoiler button there should be a symbol of three letters crossed, just select what you want crossed and press that.
Otherwise you can write "[S]" before the vote then the same thing after but with a "/" between the first parenthesis and S.
Like this(if you quote me you should see the code I used).
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Dang, this explanation is way neater.
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2021-06-02, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
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2021-06-02, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-02, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's very true. No way we vote can prove her alignment through this vote.
Emmy's full name is EmmyNecromancer. I'm guessing that's what he meant.
Also, if you like my idea... any interest in voting either BatCat or Emmy, rather than RA?
Vote Count:
Rogue_Alchemist (3): Flat_Footed, BookWombat, Jeenleen
Batcathat (11): EmmyNecromancer, Murska, Apogee1, AvatarVecna, Valmark, Elenna, Rogue_Alchemist, Totadileplayz, Xihirli, CaoimhinTheCape, Zelphas, Rogan
Totadileplayz (1): Batcathat
BookWombat (1): Libro
Xirili (1): Mornshine
CaoimhinTheCape (2): Snowblaze, Bladescape
EmmyNecromancer (1): Shal06
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2021-06-02, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-02, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, you're right Rogan. It would confirm it as a role not in the opening post and therefore not Town or Wolf.
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2021-06-02, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll be online tomorrow (not close to Day's end, but some during the Day.)
If flat_footed and BookWombat have been active and moved their vote, I'd be happy to follow. I'm just sticking on RA because I think those are least likely to be around to move their votes.
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I think it's 12 votes on Batcathat currently, not 11.
Everyone has voted, correct?
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2021-06-02, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-02, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Follow up questions:
Are the Power description complete?
Or can there be an additional power?
The Op did not say anything about the Siblings knowing the Alignment of their counterpart. Well, it stated "knowledge of" with could include Alignment.
Gac? I guess a clarification about wether this knowledge includes the alignment would be too much?
Oh come on... If Xi and I agree some more, I will start to doubt my own alignment! This is not serious.
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2021-06-02, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
I don't see any real flaws in the logic of the vote plan, we're likely to kill batcathat anyway. So...
EmmyNecromancerLast edited by totadileplayz; 2021-06-03 at 09:14 AM.
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2021-06-02, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-02, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Werewolf/Mafia: Percy Jackson
Well, Gac3 did say my win condition was to "break a tie..."
Even though I am a necromancer, I am not a member of the Coven. In fact, my entire coven disbanded, so my alignment changed to Chaotic Good.
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Uh... no, not anymore unfortunately. I ate them, you see.
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