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2021-06-03, 09:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Brown bear has a large variety of subspecies. Polar bear is basically just polar bear. Let's put it this way, according to the library of congress website the average weight of a brown bear ranges between 500-900 pounds and the average weight of a polar bear is 900-1500 pounds. However, the highest weight recorded for a polar bear was just over 2,200 lbs while the highest weight for a brown bear was over 2,500. As they don't differentiate between subspecies I think the difference is fine.
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2021-06-03, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Lions and tigers and bears...
Oh my.
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2021-06-03, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-03, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
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2021-06-03, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
An easy fix is to swap the stats if you want the lion to be best.
I think there are bigger problems with the various animal entries; the descriptions often give good reasons for them to never actually attack parties of adventurers, they are usually wiser than half the party, their attack methods aren't realistic or (actually important) interesting during playI am rel.
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2021-06-03, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
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2021-06-03, 11:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Here's another fun question to ponder: "Why is a crossbreed between a lion and a tiger stronger than both of the parent species?" That's not a D&D statblock question. That's an actual thing that happens in the real world.
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2021-06-03, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
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2021-06-04, 12:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
And only ligers (parents are male lion and female tiger) are oversized. Tigons (parents are female lion and male tiger) are not.
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2021-06-04, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
This is a documented phenomenon called Hybrid Vigor and it occurs in a lot of cross-species pairings. From what I remember, it occurs most commonly when two phylogenetically adjacent species interbreed. Mainly because the two species are only just barely different enough to be considered separate species but still close enough that prezygotic barriers don't exist. But then again, genetics and phylogeny is a field of gray. Look too closely and everything smears together.
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2021-06-04, 08:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-04, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
On a vaguely related (and hilarious note): Australia once had an Emu War, involving our military.
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2021-06-04, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Isn't that always the way of it? The animals you want to get rid of just keep on existing no matter how many of them you kill. And the animals you want to save from extinction refuse to breed in captivity and drop dead if the slightest of environmental factors is 1% off.
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2021-06-04, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
The "king of the jungle" nickname for a lion apparently (from what I've read online) comes from a time when the word "jungle" meant something different than it does today. It used to mean something like "uncultivated land", basically anywhere wild, so if that's what "jungle" means, then lions live in a jungle.
The meaning of the word has changed over time, in the same way that the line of the Flintsones song "We'll have a gay old time" doesn't mean the same thing now as it did back then.Last edited by SimonMoon6; 2021-06-04 at 06:59 PM.
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2021-06-06, 04:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Ah, one of my favorite topics: the completely busted "Brown" Bear!
If you take a look at the height and weight given for the 3.x MM's brown bear which is supposedly a common grizzly, you'll find it is definitely not a common grizzly. They seem to have confused the brown/grizzly bear category with the Kodiac Bear, which might as well be a brown polar bear only found in a very small area.
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- Black Bears gain +1 hit die (hp 26) and climb 20'.
- Brown Bear stats reduced to AC 14, Str 23, and d6/d8 claws and bite [2 claws +9 (1d6+6), bite +4 (1d8+3)], with no Improved Grab. They are on the smaller end of Large, with a weight of 250-800lbs, a height of around 7.5', and their CR is reduced to 3. These are actual brown/grizzly bears.
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- A Kodiac Bear uses Polar bear stats wth brown fur.
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2021-06-06, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
D&D beasties sometimes skew to the large side.
The D&D brown bear is indeed especially large by brown bear standards - fitting more closely to Kodiaks, Kamchatka brown bears, etc. You could probably represent the largest bear of all time, the Giant Short-Faced bear, just by giving the D&D brown bear a couple of extra Hit Dice, and swapping in appropriate "speedy" feats like Dash and Run.
The Alaskan brown bear is sometimes considered "a grizzly" rather than a Kodiak, and the largest specimen on record, may have exceeded 1800 lb at peak weight:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska...ula_brown_bear
but the average male specimen would be much smaller.Last edited by hamishspence; 2021-06-06 at 08:53 AM.
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2021-06-06, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
I, too, remember something about bear probably winning over tiger. It was one of those "Versus" TV shows from the 00s. They simmed up a Kodiak bear and a Siberian tiger, threw the stats into their "magical combat computer," and ran several thousand iterations. The bear came out a small but significant majority of the time and was declared the winner.
Take that for what you will.
With the bear's bigger fat layers, slightly longer claws, and semi-bipedal ability, I can see the fight leaning in the bear's direction. But it's not a fight either predator would court, and it if goes the full 10 rounds, even the winner loses.I have a blog; come see what I've created: https://thewhiteminotaur.wordpress.com/
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2021-06-06, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
To be fair, Nala might not be a sister exactly, but she's almost certainly related to him. Their mothers are most likely maternal relatives of some sort (sisters, aunt/niece, cousins, etc). Both Mufasa and Scar likely fathered kittens, since male coalition partners both get to mate, so they either share the same father, or their fathers are brothers. (Likely even Mufasa and Scar wouldn't know who fathered which cubs, since they'd likely both mate the same female in estrus. They certainly wouldn't treat the cubs any differently based on parentage.)
The only way Nala would not be related to Simba is if Mufasa and Scar aren't brothers, but rather unrelated males who formed a coalition after leaving their birth prides (which does happen) and one of their mothers was one of the few lionesses who changes prides in her lifetime. But even so, we know Simba, if he took over his birth pride, would likely mate with his mother and other relatives of his such as half-sisters and aunts.
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2021-06-06, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Incorrect. It's their first attack often, but a cat will bite the paw of another cat if it is easy to do.
When fighting a much larger creature, a cat will latch on with its mouth, gnawing in order to draw blood and bleed the target to death when their claws won't do the job.
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2021-06-06, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-08, 12:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why is a lion weaker than a tiger?
Bobcat is a real thing. It's a species of lynx common in North America. A friend of mine took in a kitten, it grew so big and eventually attacked her. Started biting at her back. She managed to throw it off and close it in a room. According to her, the police had to call animal control and they had to put it down. (Second hand story so accuracy is not guaranteed)
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