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    Quote Originally Posted by DigoDragon View Post
    I think I had some of the He-Man books back then, but can't remember which ones. And at least one vinyl record that was just a condensed episode reading.
    There were 8 (not counting the Choose Your Own Adventure one):

    A Trap for He-Man
    Castle Grayskull under Attack!
    He-Man and the Asteroid of Doom
    He-Man and the Lost Dragon
    He-Man Meets the Beast
    Skeletor's Ice Attack
    The Iron Master
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    After the initial teaser, here we have the first trailer:

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    "Like the old proverb says, if one sees something not right, one must draw out his sword to intervene"

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    Hmmm. Less exciting than the first trailer. I had a feeling that Sarah Michelle Gellar wouldn't sound right as Teela, and my suspicions were correct.

    Still, I'm interested in seeing the show.
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    I don't expect I'll like this as much as the She-Ra series, but then, I never did even as a kid. I did love the MOTU comics as a kid though (Star Comics was my favorite imprint, also a big fan of the Ewoks series)

    That said I feel a stupid satisfaction in that Prince Adam gets a proper transformation, rather than just Clark Kent-ing his way through the show. That irritated me as a kid...I mean, how did they not KNOW?

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    That said I feel a stupid satisfaction in that Prince Adam gets a proper transformation, rather than just Clark Kent-ing his way through the show. That irritated me as a kid...I mean, how did they not KNOW?
    Well, to be fair, they all have that exact body type so it's more of a "Huh, you ever notice how Prince Adam has He-Man's hair color?"

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    (bolding mine) This was the sole purpose of this and many other cartoons including Transformers, where the cast of characters changed between seasons depending on the new toy line.
    But what was awesome about Transformers is that they actually killed off the characters in the old toy line.
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    The vibe that I'm getting from the trailer is that a lot of the He-Man centric scenes look like they're happening in flashback. Eternia is supposed to be dying off and going all Mad Max, but in most of the scenes where we see him there's a lot of greenery, and Teela is still wearing her white costume. Total guess, I know it's not enough to go on from 2 minutes of quick-cut out takes, but that makes me think he disappeared when his sword broke and since then Teela has been on her own growing more jaded and the likes.

    I'm making all this up from 2 minutes of out takes, of course, so I'm almost certainly wrong.... But between that, the "Teela gets a much bigger role" discussion in the previous pages of this thread, and comparison to other recently rebooted shows that took several episodes for the titular character to return to form - like Samurai Jack, for example - I am slightly worried that He-Man might not be in his own show very much!
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    Yeah...everything I've heard about this particular show from Kevin Smith and other sources have done a pretty excellent job of convincing me this show isn't actually about He-Man, its about Teela. And new Teela neither seems interesting or makes me want t watch the show.


    Which sucks ass, cause I loved the 2002 cartoon to bits, especially the first episodes which stand out in my memory when they first aired on Toonami. Still, this feels more and more like its going to go the way of She-Ra and not 2002 He-Man, so I'mma wait until I see some reviews before giving it a chance. Hoping for the best though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    The vibe that I'm getting from the trailer is that a lot of the He-Man centric scenes look like they're happening in flashback. Eternia is supposed to be dying off and going all Mad Max, but in most of the scenes where we see him there's a lot of greenery, and Teela is still wearing her white costume. Total guess, I know it's not enough to go on from 2 minutes of quick-cut out takes, but that makes me think he disappeared when his sword broke and since then Teela has been on her own growing more jaded and the likes.

    I'm making all this up from 2 minutes of out takes, of course, so I'm almost certainly wrong.... But between that, the "Teela gets a much bigger role" discussion in the previous pages of this thread, and comparison to other recently rebooted shows that took several episodes for the titular character to return to form - like Samurai Jack, for example - I am slightly worried that He-Man might not be in his own show very much!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Vukodlak View Post
    Half of Eterina was always Mad Max looking. Any of the area around Snake Mountain.
    Most of Eternia was reused backgrounds from Star Trek The Animated Series....

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    Most of Eternia was reused backgrounds from Star Trek The Animated Series....
    And your point? That established geographical detail was maintained in the 2002 series and other spin-offs of comics and live action films.
    Nale is no more, he has ceased to be, his hit points have dropped to negative ten, all he was is now dust in the wind, he is not Daniel Jackson dead, he is not Kenny dead, he is final dead, he will not pass through death's revolving door, his fate will not be undone because the executives renewed his show for another season. His time had run out, his string of fate has been cut, the blood on the knife has been wiped. He is an Ex-Nale! Now can we please resume watching the Order save the world.

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    So the show is finally out and after looking at some spoiler-free reviews it looks...utterly disheartening. Anyone watch it here who could give an opinion on it? The show looks pretty, if nothing else, but everything I've heard can be summed up as 'a He-Man show that lacks strong male characters...and also He-man' or 'its a Teela show advertised as a He-Man show' and I want a gauge from less biased folk (any direction) on how true that is.
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    So the show is finally out and after looking at some spoiler-free reviews it looks...utterly disheartening. Anyone watch it here who could give an opinion on it? The show looks pretty, if nothing else, but everything I've heard can be summed up as 'a He-Man show that lacks strong male characters...and also He-man' or 'its a Teela show advertised as a He-Man show' and I want a gauge from less biased folk (any direction) on how true that is.
    If you've seen the netflix Castlevania show, think of what they've released like the first part they released of that. It's the "putting the band together and establishing the stakes" bit of the show.

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    I absolutely loved it, and can't wait for part 2! The opening hits the tone of the original series, and then goes off in different directions.

    To your questions and a less biased source, "Teela show advertised as a He-Man show" is pretty fair for this first part (which is probably why it's called Masters of the Universe, and not He-Man, but I digress). But to say it has no strong male characters, well, I wouldn't say that at all. All of the characters have more depth and complexity than I was expecting, or frankly, than the show actually needed. I mean, the original wasn't exactly a Bergman film. Hard to comment more on that without getting forum-inappropriate, but all I can say is the RT critical rating of 94% is probably closer than the review bombed audience score of 25%. If you just want to see He-Man punch things, maybe wait to see how part 2 turns out, but if you're interested in the world and want to watch a fantasy/science-fantasy show, it's very well done with a few really good turns and surprises.

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    As it turns out, the rumors were all true and Kevin Smith shamelessly lied... After spending two years attacking a couple youtubers who merely commented on a rumor (which turned out to be true, despite KS' angry replies).

    Animation and art are great, but other than that...

    Gods! This thing is awful!! It's a mean-spirited "deconstruction" of He-Man clearly written by people who couldn't care less about the franchise. Teela does indeed sideline He-Man... And she's a whiny unlikable B. They go so far as to show that the Castle of Gresykull is fake.

    Watched a couple episodes, decided to never ever even think about it again.

    Of course, the general negative audience review is already being labeled as "review bomb", but as is the case nearly every time... It's far more accurate than the critic reviews.
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    Not bad, not great. I watched it all the way through.

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    I wasn't a big fan, so I wasn't terribly hurt by it, but the narrative basically starts with He-Man dying and Part 1 appears to end with him at least badly injured and maybe dead. He appears in flashbacks occasionally in the other episodes.


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    This didn't really work for me. It wasn't quite grimdark, but there were a lot of casualties and not all that much weigh placed on them.


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    So, her narrative arc basically works, though they're foreshadowing that she's Sorceress's daughter and has major magical powers fairly hard. However, at least to me, several things didn't quite work. One, her relationship with her adoptive father explodes after He-Man's death, as he knew that Adam was He-Man and kept it from her. This sort of works because everyone is very upset. But then several years past and she never gets over it and he makes no attempt to contact her? That wasn't great for me.

    Second, I couldn't tell when she figured out that the mysterious employer was Evil-Lyn. It was clearly before she transformed back as they wanted the awesome 'you didn't trick me' moment, but since I can't tell when she figured it out, it sort of read to me like she was fine working for Evil-Lyn (the woman who helped Skeletor kill He-Man) until suddenly she wasn't.

    Building on that, the creepy techno-cult guys were clearly supposed to be evil and so it was supposed to be fine that Teela breaks in and steals their creepy nano-tech cup, but everything evil we see them do follows that action? Up until that point, they're creepy, but the only thing we see is them accepting a volunteer and giving him creepy cybernetics (and his daughter too). I mean, for a show that's trying to go for depth, I sort of hoped someone would point out that they'd just broken into a place people were living, broke up a creepy (but voluntary) religious ritual and stole a religious artifact on the word of Evil-Lyn (though they may not have known that at the time). I was also hoping someone would point out that the cult we're clearly supposed to see as evil (and which will engage in evil activity in future, but they clearly don't know that as they're confused by who they are, so it's not like they know they're raiders or something) shares exactly the same philosophy as Teela at this point? But it's never mentioned again.


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    Man-at-Arms is banished for keeping Adam's identity from the King (Adam's father) which actually makes perfect sense. Perhaps this is explained somewhere in the past and I just didn't watch it, but why exactly is the King not aware that Adam is He-Man, when his wife and what appears to be one of his senior commanders is?

    Also, after Teela quits (which honestly is fine, though the person I'd have thought she felt most sympathy towards and connection with is the jerk king who was also deceived by his closest friends and wife) and Man-At-Arms runs off and He-Man dies...is the kingdom just gone? There's no sign of it thereafter. If so, that's...pretty dark to be honest that Teela abandons them to that and breaks what I would have thought were some sort of oaths to her King who is one of a tiny handful of people who has not kept things from her.


    Held my attention while I was watching it, mostly, but not sure if I'll remember to come back if/when the next part comes out. For the folks who care about such things, yeah, this is definitely the Teela and the gang show, occasionally guest starring He-Man.

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