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    Welcome to the Crazier Idea mafia, which is my take on the Great/Greater/Greatest idea mafia games. If you don't know how it works, read on! Changes from Crazier Idea and clarifications that weren't in the previous original post but ended up in the game are underlined.

    The Basics of Mafia

    Every player is part of one of the game's factions: usually either a member of the town (who are a large faction unaware of who are town and who are mafia) or the mafia (who are a small faction, but are aware of the other members of the mafia, can communicate with each other, and can remove one target from the game each night). The game cycles through days and nights, and each day, all of the players in the game vote between them for one player to be removed from the game. The game ends when only one faction remains, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

    In case of a tie, the player who was the first to reach at least that vote total for the last time is executed*. You may vote for No Execute, which is counted the same way as a player vote, or you may choose not to vote at all. Your latest vote that is not crossed out will be used to determine your vote.

    *For example, if a player reaches 3 votes, then their opponent reaches 3 votes, then the first player drops to 2 votes, then the first player goes back up to 3 votes, the second player is executed because the last time the first player reached 3 votes is later than the last time the second player did. However, if the first player went up to 4 instead of down to 2, then went back to 3, they would be executed instead.


    The Craziest Idea

    You will be dealt three cards. Each of those cards will have a power, and a faction. You must choose one of the three cards and gain that power, then choose a second card and gain that faction. For example, if you draw "Town Killing", "Mafia Investigative", and "Alien Universal Backup", you could choose Killing from the first card, mafia from the second card and discard the card saying "Alien Universal Backup."

    Note: Discarded cards, and only discarded cards, are public. All players will get information like this:

    "Unavenger discarded Alien Universal Backup".

    If by some miracle one faction starts with control of the game (which, in practice, means that the entire play group picked town or up to one survivor), all cards are reshuffled and picks start again. No cards are revealed. This is very rare.

    Factions

    If there are fewer than 10 players, there will be two factions, the town and the mafia. If there are 10 or more players, alien cards will be added to the deck. If there are 14 or more players, werewolf cards will be added to the deck. If there are 18 or more players, cultist cards will be added to the deck.

    The town are your bog-standard town. You're more likely to have lots of allies as town, but you don't get any special abilities.
    The mafia and the werewolves are both ordinary mafia-style factions. Each one has factional chat. Once per night, any one member of the Mafia and any one member of the Werewolves can choose one target and kill that target.
    The aliens don't have a nightkill, but do get a factional chat. Any non-killing role is stronger on an alien than it is on any other faction.
    The cult have a factional conversion. Once per night, any one member of the cult can choose a target to use their conversion ability on. Any time the cult use their ability on a member of the town, that player joins the cult. Any time the cult use their ability on anyone else, the cult is informed of the faction (but not the role) of the target.

    Factional chats allow members of a faction with one to communicate at night, while aliens can communicate in their faction chats at any time.

    There is also one Survivor card and one Serial Killer card thrown into the mix. The survivor wins if they last to the end of the day, and the Serial Killer acts as a mafia of one. If you were dealt, but didn't pick, one of those roles, you know none are in the game! Both the Survivor and the Serial Killer automatically block all kills at night.

    The Death Flip

    To clarify how this works, because it wasn't spelled out in the opening post in previous editions, whenever a player dies, their cause of death will be spelled out, as well as their original role, and the role they died as. However, the cards that made up that role are not shown. For example, if I picked the Mafia Strongman off cards with "Town Killing" and "Mafia Investigative" on it, and I was executed, the role reveal would show:

    Unavenger died today. They were executed. Unavenger's role was Mafia Strongman.

    Someone who started as a town vigilante but was killed by the other Town Vigilante and a Mafia Spy after joining the Cult would show a result like:

    Unavenger was brutally murdered today. They were shot with a pistol and stabbed with a knife. Unavenger's role was Town Vigilante but they died as a Cult Fanatic.


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    Each death message is made up as follows:

    [Name] [death type] [phase]. [Pronoun] [was/were] [causes of death]. [Name]'[s] role was [starting role][message tail].

    Where:

    Name is the username of the player,
    Death type is "died" if the player was killed in one way, "was brutally murdered" if they died in two ways, "was torn to pieces" if they died in three ways and "was utterly annihilated" if they died in at least four ways,
    Phase is "today" if the player died during the day, presumably because they were executed, and "tonight" if they died during the night, presumably because they weren't,
    Pronoun is the first-person pronoun the player used at the time of the player's death, to the best of my knowledge,
    Was/Were is "were" if the player uses they pronouns and "was" otherwise,
    Causes of Death is each of the causes that the player suffered in order, separated by ", " except for the last two which are separated by " and ". In order, they are shot with a pistol, beaten to death with a tactical flashlight, stabbed with a knife, set on fire, clawed to death, hacked to death with an axe, and shot with a blaster. If multiple vigilantes from one faction kill the same person, they are reported as "shot with [two/three/four/etc.] different [pistols/blasters]".
    S is "" if the name already ends with an s or "s" otherwise,
    Starting role is whatever faction and role the player started as, after solo faction member Universal Backup switches are resolved at the start of the game,
    Message tail is "" if the player hasn't changed factions or roles. Otherwise, it's " but " followed by [pronoun] followed by " died as a " followed by the role that the player was they died.


    Abilities

    The ability on your card may change depending on the faction, so they are grouped under headings here. For example, if your faction is "Town" and your role is listed as "Killing", then you gain the town's killing role, "Vigilante."

    If you are a Survivor you gain the listed town ability, and if you are a werewolf or a serial killer you gain the listed mafia ability.

    Killing

    Town or Alien Vigilante: Once per night, you can choose one target and kill that target.

    Mafia Strongman: When you deliberately perform the factional kill, it can't be blocked.

    Cult Fanatic: When you perform the factional conversion, if you target a member of the mafia, a werewolf or an alien, the target is killed.

    Investigative

    Town Seer: Once per night, you can choose one target. You learn that target's FACTION.

    Mafia or Cult Spy: Once per night, you can choose one target. You learn that target's ROLE TYPE.

    Alien Researcher: Once per night, you can choose one target. You learn that target's FACTION and ROLE.

    Protective

    Town, Mafia or Cult Doctor: Once per night, you can choose a target. You block all night kills targeting that player the same night. You cannot target yourself twice consecutively.

    Alien Protector: Once per night, you can choose a target. You block everything targeting that player the same night. You cannot target yourself twice consecutively.

    Roleblocking

    Town, Mafia or Cult Roleblocker: Once per night, you can choose a target. That player's ability is blocked tonight. If they attempt to gather information, they will receive NO RESULT.

    Alien Mindslaver: Once per night, you can choose a target. That player's ability is blocked this night. You may activate their personal ability, or their factional ability if they have no personal ability, by attempting to choose another player. If you choose a valid target for their ability, you send your target to visit the new player. They use their ability on the other target, but you, not they, get any information from that ability except the cult's warning message that they cannot convert non-town members. If you target the Strongman, their chosen kill is Strong but the kill you send them to make is not Strong. If you target the Fanatic, their conversion IS Fanatical.

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    Town Vigilante: The second player will be reported as shot with a pistol as though the vigilante had attacked them deliberately.
    Survivor Vigilante: The second player will be reported as beaten to death with a tactical flashlight as though the vigilante had attacked them deliberately.
    Alien Vigilante: The second player will be reported as shot with a blaster as though the vigilante had attacked them deliberately.
    Mafia Strongman: The original kill is strong, but your version of the kill is not. The second player will be reported as stabbed as though the strongman had attacked them deliberately.
    Werewolf Strongman: The original kill is strong, but your version of the kill is not. The second player will be reported as clawed to death as though the strongman had attacked them deliberately.
    Serial Killer Strongman: The original kill is strong, but your version of the kill is not. The second player will be reported as hacked to death with an axe as though the strongman had attacked them deliberately.
    Cult Fanatic: The conversion will convert players to the cult, not the aliens, if successful. If the second player is a member of a non-town faction, the cult, not you, will be told that they cannot convert members of that faction, and the dead player will be reported as set on fire as though the fanatic had attacked them deliberately.

    Any investigative: You will be told the normal information and the investigative player will be told they recieved no result.

    Any protective: The second player is protected.

    Town, Survivor, Mafia, Werewolf, Serial Killer or Cult Roleblocker: The second player is roleblocked. If you end up in a blocking circle (For a simple version, A mindslaves B to block C, while B was trying to roleblock A) then you succeed at mindslaving the target if there's an even number of players in the bloking circle and fail if there's an odd number (because for the odd-number version, there's no order you can resolve the role blocks where they actually make sense, so we just assume everyone's blocked).

    Alien Mindslaver: The second part of the ability fails because you can't pick the additional targets for it. Your target is still roleblocked.

    Any Tracking: You are only ever considered to have targeted the person you picked first, and if you redirect their ability, they are considered to have targeted the person you picked second. If you target a tracking role, you get the information they would get from looking at the second target, and they get no result.

    Any JOAT: The second part of the ability succeeds if and only if the JOAT only has one ability type left, because you can't pick which of their abilities to use.

    Any manipulative: The second part of the ability will always fail, because you would need to pick another target for the gossip or additional information for a framer or psychotrooper.

    Town Friendly Neighbour: The second player will get the confirmation that the first player, not you, are the Friendly Neighbour.
    Any other communicative: The second part of the ability will always fail, because you would need to pick the message to be sent and the ability doesn't pick targets in the normal fashion.

    Town or Alien Universal Backup: The entire ability will do nothing.
    Mafia Universal Backup: You will copy the factional ability. The second player will be reported as stabbed as though the universal backup had attacked them deliberately.
    Werewolf Universal Backup: You will copy the factional ability. The second player will be reported as clawed to death as though the universal backup had attacked them deliberately.
    Cult Universal Backup: You will copy the factional ability. The conversion will convert players to the cult, not the aliens, if successful. If the second player is a member of a non-town faction, the cult, not you, will be told that they cannot convert members of that faction.
    Survivor or Serial Killer Universal Backup: These roles should be swapped out by the time the game starts, so you shouldn't ever be able to target one.


    Tracking

    Town Watcher: Once per night, you can choose a target. You learn WHO TARGETED that player.

    Mafia Tracker: Once per night, you can choose a target. You learn WHO WAS TARGETED BY that player.

    Cult Stalker: Once per night, you can choose a target. You learn WHAT ACTIONS WERE TARGETED AT that player.

    Alien Overseer: Once per night, you can choose a target. You learn WHO DID WHAT TO that player and WHO WAS TARGETED BY that player, but NOT WHAT THAT PLAYER DID.

    (Suppose person A heals person B, and person B roleblocks person C. The following are the investigative results on B:

    Watcher: A targeted B.
    Tracker: B targeted C.
    Stalker: B was healed.
    Overseer: A healed B, and B targeted C.)

    Jack of All Trades

    Town, Mafia, Cult or Alien JOAT: You may use your faction's Investigative, Protective, Roleblocking and Tracking powers once each ever.

    Manipulative

    Town Gossip: Once per night, you can target a player, then choose a non-alien Investigative or Tracking role and a second player. You cannot choose yourself for either player. The first player gains the information they would have gained from using that ability on the second player.

    Mafia or Cult Framer: Once per night, you can target a player and make up whatever information you like about them. That information appears true if they are seen, spied, researched, watched, tracked, stalked or overseen that night.

    Alien Psychotrooper: Once per night, you can target a player and make up whatever information you like about them. That information appears true if they are seen, spied, researched, watched, tracked, stalked or overseen that night. Once per game, at night, you can instead choose any number of players and make up whatever information you like about them.

    Communicative

    Town Friendly Neighbour: Once per night, you can choose a target. They recieve confirmation from me that you are a friendly neighbour, though not whether you are a member of the town or a survivor.

    Mafia Informant: You can choose a message to attach to the factional kill when a member of your faction, including you, performs it. The message is posted publically if the kill is successful, but if the kill is blocked for any reason the message is posted to the player who intercepted the kill, whether they're a doctor, roleblocker or survivor, unless you are also role blocked. The message is anonymous by default but you can put your name in the message itself.

    Cult Preacher: You can choose a message to attach to the factional recruitment when a member of your faction, including you, performs it. The message is posted publically if the recruitment is successful, but if the recruitment is blocked for any reason the message is posted to the player who intercepted the recruitment, whether they're a roleblocker or just a non-town faction member, unless you are also role blocked. If the target is killed by the conversion (because of a Cult Fanatic), the message goes to their faction. The message is anonymous by default but you can put your name in the message itself.

    Alien Telepath: You can choose a message to send to a player of your choice, or display publicly, each night. The message is anonymous by default but you can put your name in the message itself.


    Universal Backup

    Town, Mafia, Cult or Alien Universal Backup: The first time ever that a member of your faction dies, you gain their role. If you are the only member of your faction, you immediately gain the role type listed on your discarded card instead.

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    I'm in, of course.


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    I'm in! Blah!
    I won an argument with my GM -15/08/2017- (20:32 GMT +1)

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    Hopefully time to put all those painful lessons from the last game to some good use. Sign me up.

    I look forward to seeing all the ways the psychological dimension added by this card picking business will try to break my brain.

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    In. And voting for AV to make Valmark self-vote.

    To clarify: can survivor/SK be strongman-killed? *definitely not still salty about getting screwed over by that last time. That was over a year ago, Iíve got over it. Honestly.*
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    In for a crazy time! Sounds fun!
    I like the colours!

    Are the Manipulative and Communicative role blocks supposed to be underlined?
    Me dumb.
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    When is the end of recruitment? I will be busy for a couple weeks with RL stuff, but should have time after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowblaze View Post
    In. And voting for AV to make Valmark self-vote.

    To clarify: can survivor/SK be strongman-killed? *definitely not still salty about getting screwed over by that last time. That was over a year ago, Iíve got over it. Honestly.*
    In my defense, it was funny.

    ...

    I didn't say it was a good defense.
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    Depends on if there is free qt access or not.

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    Valmark still hasn't died early and I'm here to fix that.
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    Supagoof took the most blows and incidentally took exactly the same damage Xihirli inflicted.
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    Xihirli: Being a better target since 2015.
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    Xihirli, bastion of murder and betrayal.
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    Wow I missed a lot today. So, kill Xihirli?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowblaze View Post
    To clarify: can survivor/SK be strongman-killed?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by rogue_alchemist View Post
    When is the end of recruitment? I will be busy for a couple weeks with RL stuff, but should have time after.
    Recruitment will probably be two weeks, but I can push it just a little longer if that's gonna help you make the cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by totadileplayz View Post
    Depends on if there is free qt access or not.
    There is not; you can only communicate in one of four ways:

    1: You can post publicly in the main thread at any time.
    2: You can talk to your teammates at night if you are a member of the mafia, the werewolves or the cult, and at any time if you are a member of the aliens.
    3: You can use an ability that allows you to send an anonymous message if you have a communicative role.
    4: You can talk to me or yourself in your personal QuickTopic at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    Yes.



    Recruitment will probably be two weeks, but I can push it just a little longer if that's gonna help you make the cut.



    There is not; you can only communicate in one of four ways:

    1: You can post publicly in the main thread at any time.
    2: You can talk to your teammates at night if you are a member of the mafia, the werewolves or the cult, and at any time if you are a member of the aliens.
    3: You can use an ability that allows you to send an anonymous message if you have a communicative role.
    4: You can talk to me or yourself in your personal QuickTopic at any time.
    Alright then I'm in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    Recruitment will probably be two weeks, but I can push it just a little longer if that's gonna help you make the cut.
    If the game won't start until the 5th, then I should be able to make it. I will confirm that week before.

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    For Framer or Pscyhotrooper: are you limited to picking one type of info, or can literally pick anything.
    E.g., One targeting JeenLeen could say "JeenLeen is Town Gossip, targeted AV with a healing power, and was targeted by gac3 by a bane."

    And another question, to which I assume the answer is no: Framer/Pscyhotrooper said someone is Mafia or Survivor, would that protect them from a Cult Conversion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue_alchemist View Post
    If the game won't start until the 5th, then I should be able to make it. I will confirm that week before.
    All right, I can start it on the 5th. Seems fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeenLeen View Post
    For Framer or Pscyhotrooper: are you limited to picking one type of info, or can literally pick anything.
    E.g., One targeting JeenLeen could say "JeenLeen is Town Gossip, targeted AV with a healing power, and was targeted by gac3 by a bane."

    And another question, to which I assume the answer is no: Framer/Pscyhotrooper said someone is Mafia or Survivor, would that protect them from a Cult Conversion?
    You can pick any amount of information. So you can indeed say something that's completely incoherent like your example, so that a researcher would get Town Gossip but an overseer looking at AV would think that you had healed them.

    They are not protected from the conversion. They will still register as mafia or survivor to a seer, spy, researcher, watcher, tracker, stalker or overseer who views them that night, even though they were converted, however.

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    Iím in.
    The Framer can target themselves or their allies, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post

    *For example, if a player reaches 3 votes, then their opponent reaches 3 votes, then the first player drops to 2 votes, then the first player goes back up to 3 votes, the second player is executed because the last time the first player reached 3 votes is later than the last time the second player did. However, if the first player went up to 4 instead of down to 2, then went back to 3, they would be executed instead.[/U]


    Mafia Strongman: When you deliberately perform the factional kill, it can't be blocked.


    Mafia Informant: You can choose a message to attach to the factional kill when a member of your faction, including you, performs it. The message is posted publically if the kill is successful, but if the kill is blocked for any reason the message is posted to the player who intercepted the kill, whether they're a doctor, roleblocker or survivor, unless you are also role blocked. The message is anonymous by default but you can put your name in the message itself.

    Cult Preacher: You can choose a message to attach to the factional recruitment when a member of your faction, including you, performs it. The message is posted publically if the recruitment is successful, but if the recruitment is blocked for any reason the message is posted to the player who intercepted the recruitment, whether they're a roleblocker or just a non-town faction member, unless you are also role blocked. The message is anonymous by default but you can put your name in the message itself.

    Alien Telepath: You can choose a message to send to a player of your choice, or display publicly, each night. The message is anonymous by default but you can put your name in the message itself.[/U]
    What happens if A gets to 3 votes first, then B gets to 4 before dropping to 3 again? I think it is supposed to mean B dies, but I am not entirely sure.

    Do you deliberately perform the kill if you are the only member of your faction?

    Can the player include HIS OWN name in the message, or can you place every name there? Can it include your name? Will it be clear that this message was made by the power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Valmark still hasn't died early and I'm here to fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Valmark still hasn't died early and I'm here to fix that.
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    The Framer can target themselves or their allies, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    What happens if A gets to 3 votes first, then B gets to 4 before dropping to 3 again? I think it is supposed to mean B dies, but I am not entirely sure.
    A will die, because the first time that A got to at least 3 votes is before the first time that B got to at least 3 votes. Conversely, if B gets to 3, then A to 3, then B to 4, then B to 3, B will die.

    Do you deliberately perform the kill if you are the only member of your faction?
    Yes. The word "Deliberately" is as opposed to the Mindslaver forcing you to.

    Can the player include HIS OWN name in the message, or can you place every name there? Can it include your name? Will it be clear that this message was made by the power?
    You can include anything you like in the message, so long as it conforms to forum rules and I can fit it reasonably into the dawn message. This can include your name, my name, or anyone else's name. It will be clear that the message was made by one of the powers but not which one.

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    Thanks for the answers. One thing is still confusing me a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    A will die, because the first time that A got to at least 3 votes is before the first time that B got to at least 3 votes. Conversely, if B gets to 3, then A to 3, then B to 4, then B to 3, B will die.
    Quote Originally Posted by OP
    In case of a tie, the player who was the first to reach at least that vote total for the last time is executed.
    So, what is at least supposed to mean? I thought it would mean of the currency tied players, the player who reached the highest vote count first would die, even if the current vote count is lower.

    Or is that line there to handle a situation like
    A gets to 3, B gets to 3, A gets to 4 and back to 3.

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    I'm in. *More characters*

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    Narrator, you're double voting in the opening post you can't vote for both me and AV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Narrator, you're double voting in the opening post you can't vote for both me and AV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    So, what is at least supposed to mean? I thought it would mean of the currency tied players, the player who reached the highest vote count first would die, even if the current vote count is lower.

    Or is that line there to handle a situation like
    A gets to 3, B gets to 3, A gets to 4 and back to 3.
    It's meant to handle exactly that situation. I know it's an odd sentence but I couldn't think of a better phrasing. Essentially, if multiple players are at X votes, whichever of them was least recently below X votes will be executed, irrespective of whether any player has ever been above X votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Narrator, you're double voting in the opening post you can't vote for both me and AV.
    Most recent uncrossed vote counts, Xi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    Most recent uncrossed vote counts, Xi.
    I'm sorry but in this instance both of your votes are on the same post thus it's a double-vote no one would say I wasn't double-voting if I did the same thing. Heck I'll prove it if you wish me to.
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    I'm sorry but in this instance both of your votes are on the same post thus it's a double-vote no one would say I wasn't double-voting if I did the same thing. Heck I'll prove it if you wish me to.
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