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2021-07-07, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Mysteries of hyperspace?
I was reading the Star Wars YT-1300 Complete Reference Manual and it mentioned that their are some aspects of hyperspace that remain a mystery aside from those well-established facts acknowledged by all competent astrophysicists.
What could be one of the main mysteries? I can’t think of any.
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2021-07-07, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hyperspace is a completely fictional concept. To my knowledge there is no evidence of any such thing existing as a means to travel faster than light.
It's basically just magic.We are not standing on the shoulders of giants, but on very tall tower of other dwarves.
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2021-07-07, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wormholes?
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2021-07-07, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-07-07, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well both. Wormholes exist in Star Wars canon. They appeared in the Han Solo comics.
Wormholes could be a potentially REAL FTL method but I am playing Devils Advocate and asking from an in-universe point of view. In Star Wars, based on what we see and know about hyperspace; what could be one of the mysteries?
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2021-07-07, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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I can recall 2 mysteries about hyperspace off hand that are specifically in-universe:
What happens to objects stuck in hyperspace (say tossing someone/something out of an airlock with no hyperdrive to bring them back to normal space)? If my memory is correct, one of the scenes in the final novel of the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy involves shoving someone out of an airlock during a hyperspace transit, with the pushers speculating what would happen to them.
A second mystery involves traveling outside of the galaxy via hyperspace: it can't be done. My memory about this is more foggy, but I believe it is mentioned/discussed during the New Jedi Order series, particularly the first novel Vector Prime, and the Outbound Flight novel.
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2021-07-08, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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The early EU novel Han Solo at Star's End has this actually happening at one point. I won't say who it is, but I found the description chilling: 'Outside the Falcon's protective shell of energy, the patterns of force that had once composed [the person who was shoved out] ceased to have coherent meaning.'
As for descriptions of hyperspace, I actually resort to a very, very old novella originally published with the computer game Elite, written by Steve Eisler under the pen name of Robert Holdstock. It has 'Witchspace', but it might as well be hyperspace:
Originally Posted by The Dark Wheel
And in terms of actual mysteries of hyperspace as shown on film, one of them might well be why whether entering hyperspace means you're actually entering a parallel dimension or not, or indeed what the nature of hyperspace actually is.
(Or indeed the bigger mystery might be what the nature of travelling in hyperspace actually is. You can't fly through real-universe objects like stars while in hyperspace (hence why it takes a nav computer a few moments to calculate the course), and The Last Cowpat demonstrates it's possible to impact a real-world object while in or transitioning to hyperspace ... but hyperspace flight seems to be frictionless, suggesting there's no interaction with the physical universe (if for no other reason than a ship in hyperspace would have to be generating infinite energy shields, since every particle of dust becomes an atomic bomb consequent on E=mc2). So are you still in four-dimensional space or are you Somewhere Else? Are you existing in several different dimensions at the same time?
It's presumably travelling at faster than the speed of light, but even that's problematic since the time dilation inherent in supraluminal travel doesn't work the way the theory of relativity says it should (time remains constant in the universe across the entire journey, travel 5 hours at supraluminal speeds and only 5 hours has passed in the wider universe when you come back out.) I guess hyperspace could just be a fancy way of saying you're warping space around an object, but if so, why can't you warp matter around it as well, thus getting rid of the hyperspace impact problem?Last edited by Saintheart; 2021-07-08 at 11:34 PM.
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2021-07-10, 11:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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If I remember the old canon, Hyperspace technology was actually disseminated by the Rataka and their Eternal Empire. So it's possible that the theoretical scientists who understood the theory never got to spread that knowledge. Everyone just repeats what worked, fiddle and improve on it, but never truly understood the nature of Hyperspace and hyperdrive.
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2021-07-11, 12:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's important to recognize that Star Wars hyperspace functions differently in the Legends continuity versus the Disney continuity, with the former being far more coherent than the latter (things like the Holdo Maneuver or Lightspeed Skipping are explicitly impossible in Legends).
Originally Posted by Saintheart
The early EU novel Han Solo at Star's End has this actually happening at one point. I won't say who it is, but I found the description chilling: 'Outside the Falcon's protective shell of energy, the patterns of force that had once composed [the person who was shoved out] ceased to have coherent meaning.'
It's presumably travelling at faster than the speed of light, but even that's problematic since the time dilation inherent in supraluminal travel doesn't work the way the theory of relativity says it should (time remains constant in the universe across the entire journey, travel 5 hours at supraluminal speeds and only 5 hours has passed in the wider universe when you come back out.) I guess hyperspace could just be a fancy way of saying you're warping space around an object, but if so, why can't you warp matter around it as well, thus getting rid of the hyperspace impact problem?
Originally Posted by Cokimyr2
It's noteworthy that instant transportation between two points was possible through the Force alone, using the Fold space or Teleport powers (these may be the same abilities, simply under different names), commonly found among the Aing-Tii monks, but accessible to others and apparently possible using technology as well, as Rakata transmission devices were found in use on Belsavis. This does not seem to have involved use of hyperspace at all.