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    My general rule of thumb is that if something seems outrageous on the surface, i'll assume the other person is at least as smart as i am, and that theyre doing it on purpose for the sake of making a point or being humorous. It doesnt work all the time, but its been surprisingly successful.
    Sorry, I've been reading The SUE Comes recently. Makes me assume the worst when it comes to weapons.
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    When it comes to weapons my stance i either "small and precise" or "big and excessively destructive."

    I will take a court sword or I will take one of those big anime swords that you swing like a club and just sort of crushes through the target instead of cleanly slicing or piercing.

    I will take a derringer or I will take a Davey Crockett.
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    Speaking of weapons, what is everybody's weapon of choice for the Zombie Apocalypse? It can be any real or fictional weapon, and if it requires ammo, assume that replenishment ammo or power for it becomes magically available periodically, video game style. The only restriction is that the weapon needs to be portable under your own power (ie you can carry it).

    My choice would be a Lightsaber. Besides being an elegant weapon from a more civilized age, its also incredibly power-efficient, cauterizes wounds so i wouldnt be at risk of infection from splatter, and cuts easily enough that i can handle decent sized crowds. Also it would protect me from a sudden and inexplicable invasion of Imperial Stormtroopers, in case its that kind of zombie apocalypse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Speaking of weapons, what is everybody's weapon of choice for the Zombie Apocalypse? It can be any real or fictional weapon, and if it requires ammo, assume that replenishment ammo or power for it becomes magically available periodically, video game style. The only restriction is that the weapon needs to be portable under your own power (ie you can carry it).

    My choice would be a Lightsaber. Besides being an elegant weapon from a more civilized age, its also incredibly power-efficient, cauterizes wounds so i wouldnt be at risk of infection from splatter, and cuts easily enough that i can handle decent sized crowds. Also it would protect me from a sudden and inexplicable invasion of Imperial Stormtroopers, in case its that kind of zombie apocalypse.
    Lightsaber. Defo lightsaber. Doubles as a door unlocker.

    ETA: Also, technically, spatter. No L. Not a huge thing, though. Splatter still kind of works but blood typically defaults to spatter.
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    A good pair of trainers.

    I have no combat skills (except for using done a combat sport when younger, but still without weapons). Having a weapon would make me more confident despite being unlikely to actually hit a zombie before I get eaten. Much better odds for me to hope that the zombies can be outrun with s walking frame.

    If I have to choose a weapon, either an air rifle or subsonic railgun. There's a lot of advantages to being at range and relatively quiet.
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    If I have to choose a weapon, either an air rifle or subsonic railgun. There's a lot of advantages to being at range and relatively quiet.
    Take the railgun over air rifle. Stopping power is a big thing, and while I have no idea how much a hypothetical railgun has, it's got to be more than an air rifle.
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    Take the railgun over air rifle. Stopping power is a big thing, and while I have no idea how much a hypothetical railgun has, it's got to be more than an air rifle.
    I mean, the ideal would be a military grades MP laser pulser. But reigrning myself in, railgun was my first choice because I like them and, if stopping power is a necessity, I can theoretically launch more massive rounds while remaining subsonic.
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    So here I am, trapped in my laboratory, trying to create a Mechabeast that's powerful enough to take down the howling horde outside my door, but also won't join them once it realizes what I've done...twentieth time's the charm, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Take the railgun over air rifle. Stopping power is a big thing, and while I have no idea how much a hypothetical railgun has, it's got to be more than an air rifle.
    Against a zombie, probably actually very little. A railgun shot is going to make a bullet-shaped hole in a zombie and keep going through the next five without disrupting it. Like using an AP round on an unarmored target.
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    Against a zombie, probably actually very little. A railgun shot is going to make a bullet-shaped hole in a zombie and keep going through the next five without disrupting it. Like using an AP round on an unarmored target.
    That hole still has a chance of going through the leg or head, both of which will stop it. As opposed it an airgun, which doesn't even make the hole.

    That being said, legs are easier to remove with a lightsaber. Same with arms. Or heads. Or torsos.
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    Speaking of weapons, what is everybody's weapon of choice for the Zombie Apocalypse? It can be any real or fictional weapon, and if it requires ammo, assume that replenishment ammo or power for it becomes magically available periodically, video game style. The only restriction is that the weapon needs to be portable under your own power (ie you can carry it).

    My choice would be a Lightsaber. Besides being an elegant weapon from a more civilized age, its also incredibly power-efficient, cauterizes wounds so i wouldnt be at risk of infection from splatter, and cuts easily enough that i can handle decent sized crowds. Also it would protect me from a sudden and inexplicable invasion of Imperial Stormtroopers, in case its that kind of zombie apocalypse.
    Egads, lightsabers! I'd be terrified of lopping off my own arm with that thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Speaking of weapons, what is everybody's weapon of choice for the Zombie Apocalypse? It can be any real or fictional weapon, and if it requires ammo, assume that replenishment ammo or power for it becomes magically available periodically, video game style. The only restriction is that the weapon needs to be portable under your own power (ie you can carry it).
    If I said Ryūjin Jakka/Zanka no Tachi, would that be a fair answer or no becuase it's technically a channel for the power of Genryusai Yammamoto's soul?

    I don't know, something about being able to instantly reduce everything to ashes with my choice of either fire or solar plasma, aust myself in an impenetrable aura of energy that is normally too hot to take the form of fire or even be visible to the naked eye unless I go out of my way to make it visible, concentrate the pure destructive power of a WMD along the edge of a blade for instant death cuts, and summon an army of everyone I've ever killed to do my bidding sounds like it'd be really fricking useful in a full-scale zombie apocalypse.

    Fire is the cleanser, my bros and bro-ettes.

    If that isn't an option... A Red Lantern Ring. Enhanced mobility via flight, and while you need training and rituals to make constructs, projectile vomiting large quantities of what amounts to flaming acid for acouple dozen feet should take care of any zeds I can't just fly away from.
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    Speaking of weapons, what is everybody's weapon of choice for the Zombie Apocalypse?
    A nuke. Solve that problem right up.
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    A nuke. Solve that problem right up.
    Congratulations, the zombie apocalypse is over.

    You are now defenceless against the mutant apocalypse.
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    Congratulations, the zombie apocalypse is over.

    You are now defenceless against the mutant apocalypse.
    Wait is Apocalypse a mutant or a celestial? Maybe an Immortal?
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    Wait is Apocalypse a mutant or a celestial? Maybe an Immortal?
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    Congratulations, the zombie apocalypse is over.

    You are now defenceless against the mutant apocalypse.
    Well that's hardly a problem, just get the hurricane machine out.
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    Wait is Apocalypse a mutant or a celestial? Maybe an Immortal?
    En Sabah nur, Alias Apocalypse, is a mutant, Homo s superior. More specifically, he is an External, a subcategory of mutants whose powers all given them some means of resisting or negating the aging process and coming back to life: They've got kind of a highlander thing going where the only way to permenantly kill one, under normal circumstances, is for them to die at the hands of another External, in which case the slain External's power and life force are divided equally among all currently living Externals(though they can cheat this by binding their Life Force into crystals, which can be to their advantage or detriment depends on circumstances.)

    While his name literally means "the First One" in a dialect spoken on the outskirts of Egypt at the time of hs birth, he's really only the first of the second wave of mutants—the mutant currently known as Selene predates him by 12 thousand years as the first "proper" mutant, though proto mutants date back to when the Celestials first experimented on human anestors over one million years ago.

    However, En Sabah Nur is a transhumanist(transmutantist?): While he values survival of the fittest, he also believes that there's no shame in making someone fit through artificial means. After deposing the Pharoah Rama Tut(in fact, a time traveler by the name of Nathaniel Richards, who would then go on to become Kang the Conqueror) he stole his future tech and, among other things, used it to genetically optimize himself, boosting his powers and unlocking latent abilities.

    After being infected with the Techno-Organic Virus at around the year 1000 AD, he was able to do the same with some Celestial technology he'd come across and eventually merge celestial technology, and other bits of tech, into himself at the molecular level, meaning that he's an "ideal cyborg, flesh and machinery fused seamlessly to the point that it's impossible tot ell where one ends and the other begins.

    He often claims to be a God, and when you look at his physiology, his physical prowess, and his ability to manipulate cosmic energy... He's not wrong. If he's not a God, by in-universe standards, then the distinction is academic.

    (Note: Several mutants have become Gods, Demons, or similar beings by various means. Storm is a Goddess, Magick is a Hell Lord, and the only reason Ice Man hasn't become a second Ymir is that he doesn't want to.)

    He's also dabbed in sorcery, though he tends to default to science when dealing with supernatural threats, and after relearning the value of compassion and togetherness was able to invent a new kind of magic, the "Magos Superior," wherein five mutants standing in a quincunx formation can work magic without incurring debt or requiring an external cost by commingling their power in a ritual, with the caveat that the mutants need to have specific powers and take specific roles in the ritual.
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    However, En Sabah Nur is a transhumanist(transmutantist?)
    Transhumanist, everything in the Homo genus is called human, scientifically speaking.

    (Right now it is a moot point, but it might matter in a couple centuries.)
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    And here I thought Rassilon held the crown for must overly pompous immortal scientist. At least Apocalypse has better fashion sense than a Time Lord.
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    And here I thought Rassilon held the crown for must overly pompous immortal scientist. At least Apocalypse has better fashion sense than a Time Lord.
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    And here I thought Rassilon held the crown for must overly pompous immortal scientist. At least Apocalypse has better fashion sense than a Time Lord.
    It's hard to beat Timothy Dalton. The man is a legend.
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    But can the content of Nur's sock drawyer destroy a planet?
    I don't know, I'm not Rater.


    But yeah, I'm hoping the new series actually does something with Rassilon. Although sadly the plot line that was being set up there for burnt down with Gallifrey. But he's just come off as staggeringly incompetent compared to the Matter, and not just the relatively sane Delgado Matter (and the War Chief of we disregard the official line about them being different).
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    But can the content of Nur's sock drawyer destroy a planet?
    Considering that all of his known outfits are made of celestial technology, probably.
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    But yeah, I'm hoping the new series actually does something with Rassilon. Although sadly the plot line that was being set up there for burnt down with Gallifrey. But he's just come off as staggeringly incompetent compared to the Matter, and not just the relatively sane Delgado Matter (and the War Chief of we disregard the official line about them being different).
    I'm told Old Man Rassilon showed up in the Titan Comics where he allied with the Cybermen (even got turned into a Cyber-planner) to rewrite the timeline and it took the coordinated efforts of Doctor 1 through 12 to stop him.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    But yeah, I'm hoping the new series actually does something with Rassilon. Although sadly the plot line that was being set up there for burnt down with Gallifrey. But he's just come off as staggeringly incompetent compared to the Matter, and not just the relatively sane Delgado Matter (and the War Chief of we disregard the official line about them being different).
    Real talk here, if Dalton returns that may well be enough to get me back into it. Though, Time Lords being Time Lords, he may well not.
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    I'm told Old Man Rassilon showed up in the Titan Comics where he allied with the Cybermen (even got turned into a Cyber-planner) to rewrite the timeline and it took the coordinated efforts of Doctor 1 through 12 to stop him.
    I'll pay that as much attention as the TV series will.

    In all honesty, we've got the 60th Anniversary in a couple of years. Not only do I suspect we'll get a multi Doctor sorry (sadly likely without Colin Basket or McGann) I suspect that if the Master isn't the violation it'll be Rassilon.

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    Real talk here, if Dalton returns that may well be enough to get me back into it. Though, Time Lords being Time Lords, he may well not.
    I believe officially the Master made him regenerate, hence the new form in Day off the Doctor. In a time travel show that wouldn't mean much, but I expect Rassilon rarely left Gallifrey, and Gallifrey's time travel defences means that nobody can travel into it's past. Gallifrey is the one absolute of the Whoniverse (although others could in theory be created).
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    In all honesty, we've got the 60th Anniversary in a couple of years. Not only do I suspect we'll get a multi Doctor sorry (sadly likely without Colin Basket or McGann) I suspect that if the Master isn't the violation it'll be Rassilon.
    It's been a while since we've last heard of Omega.

    I believe officially the Master made him regenerate, hence the new form in Day off the Doctor. In a time travel show that wouldn't mean much, but I expect Rassilon rarely left Gallifrey, and Gallifrey's time travel defences means that nobody can travel into it's past.
    Except when they do.
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    It's been a while since we've last heard of Omega.
    Has he got any closer to regaining a permanent body yet?

    Actually, the return of Omega and his megalomania would make for an incredibly fun story. I do hope they go with him.

    Except when they do.
    Sadly the new series seems to have shuffled all the bigger fish than the Time Lords into the 'not around here anymore' category. Although I suppose somebody could always try to enslave Kronos again.
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    Has he got any closer to regaining a permanent body yet?
    Permanent? No.

    Actually, the return of Omega and his megalomania would make for an incredibly fun story.
    Heh, it was okay.
    I do hope they go with him.
    I was mostly joking. Honestly pretty much any vilain could make it work in the right story.

    Though, if somebody asked me "if you had to write the biggest, grandest, flashiest Doctor Who episode, whi would you use as the main antagonist?" I'd answer "The Valeyard working with the Black Guardian." Let's go for broke.


    Sadly the new series seems to have shuffled all the bigger fish than the Time Lords into the 'not around here anymore' category. Although I suppose somebody could always try to enslave Kronos again.
    The weird gods from the nightmare episode referenced a lot of of these: the Guardians, the Eternals, all that.
    That was one of my main gripe with the last series, it kept calling back to the classic show but aggressively refused to build anything on thay, to the point of burning Gallifrey down! Again. Offscreen.
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    At least when Davies removed Gallifrey from the toybox he kept it interact and didn't his last couple of episodes setting up it's return.

    Chibnall seems to have done all this just to make the Doctor into somebody they never were, and the worst thing about it for me is that it's removed potential plotlines even if the new developments had been kept. So the Time Lords essentially tortured the Doctor and stole regeneration from them? Well they can't really be confronted about it, everybody bar Rassilon and the Master is dead.

    Although I fully foresee the next showrunner at the very least setting up a New Gallifrey that a significant portion of the Time Lords died to. The greatest species in the universe reduced to refugees could be interesting, and is the perfect stepping point for one of the founders to rise again.
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