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2021-09-10, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2021-09-10, 09:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-10, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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...I accidentally reminded myself of the episode of the Simpsons where they move to another town becuase Homer got a better job, everything seems great, but then the whole family aside from Homer ends up Miserable.
At the new school, Bart has trouble reading Cursive and this and this alone is enough to get him sent to the special needs classes... With students that include a seemingly normal boy who likes to start fires and girl who lost consciousness after hurting herself on playground equipment and woke up in the special needs room.
And not a good special needs class, either. A fourth-grader who can't read cursive, a fourth-grader who lost consciousness after a playground accident and woke up in the special needs room instead of a hospital, and a fourth graded who liked to start fires were receiving lessons on how to write a letter "A" midway into a school year by a teacher who treated them like preschoolers and mocked Bart for claiming rightfully that he's supposed to be receiving a fourth-grade education.
I want to say I hope that the episode was exaggerating and no schools, especially not fancy well-funded schools run by a billionaire who actually gives a damn about people's health and happiness, wouldn't be that bad... But... *literally everything I've said about school*
(It's especially jarring when you consider that multiple episodes have established that Bart is a prodigy with languages—being able to rapidly become fully fluent in French, Spanish, Latin, Cantonese, and Japanese in various episodes. In comparison to that, learning a slightly different alphabet for the same language should be a piece of cake. Given actual remedial lessons to catch up to the new school's standards he could have easily caught up but he's denied the opportunity.)Last edited by Rater202; 2021-09-10 at 09:58 AM.
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2021-09-10, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
Cursive is terrible.
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2021-09-10, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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The teachers didn't lie, they were wrong. Big difference there. If you had a teacher in the late 1950s they would have told you to either be ready for a factory job and to buy a house at 22 or to be ready to have kids at 22, and then had a great shot of being totally wrong because the world changed in dramatic and incalculable ways.
In this case, people hand wrote constantly (CONSTANTLY) until the mid1990s, and teachers did their education before the shift. They cancelled cursive at my elementary school while I was in high school, because the lag between when something changes and when education becomes aware of that change is fairly long. Society is even slower, older people at my office still give me a hard time about my handwriting despite me writing exactly my name on any given day. Yes we have 50,000+ hand filled documents on record in a huge vault, no we won't ever add to it.
Don't blame the teachers, blame the extreme rate of social change.
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2021-09-10, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
I changed schools from a school that didn't teach cursive till later than my age, to a school that taught cursive before my age. That didn't go well.
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2021-09-10, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
There are so many things that teachers don't teach kids at school which they picture history and other subjects as deception of illusion and lies.
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2021-09-10, 01:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
I don't understand what you're saying, could you elaborate?
But yeah, there's things that plenty of people aren't taught in school but evil m which will serve them well in later life. The best majority of schooling is, in my opinion, making certain that people who want to continue onto further education can.
Although I support the idea that what most people learn in maths up until about age 15/16 is useful. Not all of it, but anything up to basic algebra and arrang even basic calculus at least teaches important concepts, the same with literary analysis (it's about teaching you to break down languages to find Hidden and unhidden meaning).
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2021-09-10, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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For example, when I was at school many years ago, my childhood school teacher taught me that Christopher Columbus discovered America but he didn't discover America at all, It was the Native Americans who were living in America first, which I learned many years later by one of my co-workers who told me about Indigenous People Day.
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2021-09-10, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-10, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
Frankly we were taught that because we were kids.
"Columbus' voyage to the west thought it had discovered India, but we later learned he found Cuba, and then we re-discovered the American continent for European colonization. Vikings actually discovered America before that and completely ignored it for the most part - or, well, technically the natives discovered it first waaaaaaay back before human history really began" is the truth, but it's also hard for a kid to follow. "Columbus discovered America" is true enough for a kid to understand, at least for the purposes of learning history.
It's an important event to understand the American continent, but it's also not so important as to dwell on it. "Columbus told Spain about America and that started the colonization race" is the important bit as far as modern history goes.Last edited by HalfTangible; 2021-09-10 at 02:09 PM.
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2021-09-10, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-10, 02:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
It is 100% true that Columbus discovered America (well, the Caribbean islands at least). There were people who discovered it before him, but he still didn't know it was there and made a discovery.
But yes, the story as told is highly simplified and in some cases wrong (the fact he got his calculations wrong is often left out).
Other things that were discovered multiple times include calculus and scientific ideas people refused to share.
Yep! Literally the only reason I put basic calculus on there is because I think that knowing to look at the rate of change of a variable is a good thing to have drilled into you.
Honestly the midst 'useless' thing taught are the arts, and even then I wouldn't do them from the system. While in my life I've had no reason to know the things I learnt in art, music, or drama class they still helped me even if it was just finding out what I like. (I also know somebody who uses songs and music as their lens for the world, so I must imagine it helped them a great deal.)Last edited by Anonymouswizard; 2021-09-10 at 02:28 PM.
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2021-09-10, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
It's definitely easier to write, especially if you are under any kind of time pressure to do so; the simple change of not having to repeatedly pick up and put down your writing implement to reset your writing location sees to that. It's probably also less stress on your hand and wrist for the same thing. (I would speculate anybody who thinks full disconnected print is 'easier to write' probably learned cursive under protest and was not made to spend much time practicing it to gain familiarity with it. Like any skill it develops with use and withers with neglect.)
Easier to read is.. definitely questionable, and is hugely dependent on both the person writing and what the reader learned as 'cursive.' With nobody putting pressure on somebody to maintain and practice a clear, consistent style of cursive people's writing tends to degenerate, and there isn't a single standard variety of 'cursive' anyways - documents like the previously referenced Constitution are actually fairly hard to read for modern readers, because the style of lettering used on it is different to the most common styles of cursive taught today! (Specifically it's written in a calligraphic style with a lot of flourishes and things that make individual letters harder to make out, while the cursive style or styles most people would have learned in school is supposed to emphasize clarity of understanding more and doesn't use many serifs or strokes not required to form the letter.)
Although IME what people adopt if they need other people to reliably read their writing is a kind of pidgin script where the letter shapes are closer to block printing style, but most of them are written joined for faster writing.Last edited by tyckspoon; 2021-09-10 at 02:39 PM.
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2021-09-10, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-10, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Bartmanhomer; 2021-09-10 at 07:18 PM.
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2021-09-10, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
They were honest, its just that the world is big, history is complicated, and children are easily bored. Columbus discovered America for the group of people he belonged to (ie the political and social circles of Europe at that time), which happened to be one of the most acted upon discoveries of America. That he wasnt the first one to get there doesnt mean he didnt make the discovery for his group.
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2021-09-10, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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The whole concept behind "lies for children" is that humans naturally think in stories, and reality is just an infinite number of context free events. Try explaining the stock market to a kid without glossing over details and exceptions, you will basically be speaking gibberish and they won't understand what you are saying at all.
Even more poignantly, try to explain nutrition to a child.
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2021-09-10, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Surprise last day at work today! Now I have a free week before I get to go to various training facilities across multiple states. The downside is there's going to be a week without pay, but that's manageable enough.
Dunno how consistently I'll be able to be on here for the next half year or so though.Last edited by Peelee; 2021-09-10 at 06:47 PM.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2021-09-10, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-10, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-10, 06:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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OK, it's pretty damn cool. There's even a maid service at the training facilities, and I hear the food is effectively "today there's a taco bar, salad bar, five types of pizza, steaks cooked to order, and various vegetable sides. Tomorrow is Italian night." It's gonna be a lot of work, but a lot of perks.
The training spans roughly seven months or so, during which I will be very well paid. The week without pay is between old job and new job (training). That is manageable. The full training without pay is not at all manageable, I'm not that well off. Also kind of illegal here IIRC.
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After you do the first season, you should check out the movie. Compare/contrast.Last edited by Peelee; 2021-09-10 at 06:07 PM.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2021-09-10, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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The stars predict tomorrow you'll wake up, do a bunch of stuff, and then go back to sleep.~ That's your horoscope for today.
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2021-09-10, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well that was fast, you only just got the job.
Now I have a free week before I get to go to various training facilities across multiple states. The surveys is there's going to be a week without pay, but that's manageable enough.
Dunno how consistently I'll be able to be on here for the next half year or so though.
Also definitely a sense of coolness here, you know the British equivalent would involve two months in rural Wales with no coat.
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2021-09-10, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-11, 06:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay that's pretty sweet.
Ah, that makes more sense.
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2021-09-11, 07:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Tarmor's Terribly Tantalizing Tarasque Terrrifying Random Banter #234
What does a movie about blue space wolves have to do with a series full of gay people? What is this The Last Airbender of which you speak?
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2021-09-11, 07:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Experiment: Leftover onion soup from the other day(made from soup mix, made a hall of a lot of soup) and leftover plain fried rice from last night(from the local Chinese place) heated up for a minute in the microwave, then topped with cheese-its because why the hell not.
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2021-09-11, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2021-09-11, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Happy 20th anniversary of Patriots Day everyone.
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