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    Quote Originally Posted by u-b View Post
    The interesting questions that will affect our tactics a lot are:
    1. Whether all those ballistas have roofs above them.
    2. Whether any of those roofs (above them and above the rest of the citadel) are flat, sloped, pointed and/or made to prevent people from standing/walking on them.

    Right now, I assume the core of the citadel is roofed and Gashur absolutely does not want to go inside there, but taking the roofs... the arrangement probably means we cannot rest after just two outer towers, but taking out #1 next means we can then go about #15..#16 and it's not obvious how they could point their ballistas at there, from either #13s or #21, if there are the roofs above them.

    Also, is #23 the landing pad for #22 and #21?
    #13 Areas are open to the sky
    #21 is not. Area 22 and Are 23 are the top of the tower and are steeply pointed (#22, which sits above #21 has sharp spikes jutting out like shutters protect the access to the large winodw like arches the ballista on #21 fire from
    In #1 the Ballista platform are open to the sky. But the area other are covered by a sharply raked roof.

    Most of the core roof of the structure is designed to be very passable, its a squat flat dwarven fortress so you'd expect a lot of it will be further down.


    I would say... In the adventure, it expects a series of protracted battles using the army rules so falling back to the southern side of the Ahari bridge that you've taken to rest and then trying to storm the keep the following day would be acceptable. The south side of the bridge has enough cover and range that ballista on the Citadel and the curtain wall are largely ineffective.
    In addition as Paradise Hill was liberated by Irabeth she has rescued ~400 PoWs that have enough equipment to form a ragtag militia/infantry unit to bolster your army (we just haven't got back to Irabeth in the IC thread yet to discuss that).
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    Hmm... okay, let's take these guys:

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    KNIGHTS OF KENABRES ACR 3
    LG Medium army of human knights
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    DV 18; OM +8 ranged
    Tactics expert flankers, standard, withdraw
    Resources improved armor, improved weapons (mwk cold iron), mounts, ranged weapons (longbows)
    Special aura of courage, channel positive energy, divine health, lay on hands, mercy, smite evil, spellcasting
    Speed 3; Morale +1; Consumption 5
    If they have both channel and lay on hands, they can heal themselves 6 hit points total. They don't seem to have healing potions, which is unfortunate, but we can as well wait until they loot the east side and see if there are any in there. Depending on the findings, they might heal themselves another 0..12 points. I think we are not in hurry and can as well have, say, a 4-hour adventuring day instead of a 5-minute one, so looting is fine. How many hit points they have before any healing is done? And while the search is ongoing, the hero team is far from depleted, so might as well do some stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-b View Post
    Hmm... okay, let's take these guys:

    If they have both channel and lay on hands, they can heal themselves 6 hit points total. They don't seem to have healing potions, which is unfortunate, but we can as well wait until they loot the east side and see if there are any in there. Depending on the findings, they might heal themselves another 0..12 points. I think we are not in hurry and can as well have, say, a 4-hour adventuring day instead of a 5-minute one, so looting is fine. How many hit points they have before any healing is done? And while the search is ongoing, the hero team is far from depleted, so might as well do some stuff.
    Actually if they have channel, they can do that and heal everybody within 30ft. If each knight does that, they can basically heal each other back up to full by each one using 1 channel (and maybe include some of the horses).

    Question: on the map I see an outer wall around the citadel. Is that still there and do the enemy have people on that? If not, we can basically go right next to the wall and lay a siege around the citadel that way as we're protected from the ballista's by the wall. 6 groups, each one section of that wall and wait there.
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    I'm assuming we:re brushing over this and taking a night's rest, bit before that I'm expending all my fireballs (3), augmented mythic fire missiles (18 missiles - 6MP) and normal fire missiles (9 missiles) for today to cause maximum damage.
    Gashur absolutely votes to spend (some of) the mythic MMs to take out the Brimoraks operating the ballistas. Then he will...
    1. Try to get their gear, if any (especially something that has allowed them to see him)
    2. Try to destroy those two ballistas (this would depend on the amount of fire returned by the other ballistas, we might play it out or resolve in bulk)
    3. If no fire is returned by any other ballistas or archers, Gashur would go wild, but I guess that won't be the case

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    How tough are brimoraks? Three castings of mythic magic (fire) missile (augmented) can deal up to 18 missiles of 2d4+5 each bypassing spell resistance and immunity.

    The regular magic (fire) missiles are 9x 1d4+3.

    The three fireballs are 6d6+12 each REF DC21 for half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCgothic View Post
    How tough are brimoraks?
    Unfortunately, Gashur has failed his knowledge check, but based on the last experience with one, approximately as tough as Gashur sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCgothic View Post
    How tough are brimoraks? Three castings of mythic magic (fire) missile (augmented) can deal up to 18 missiles of 2d4+5 each bypassing spell resistance and immunity.

    The regular magic (fire) missiles are 9x 1d4+3.

    The three fireballs are 6d6+12 each REF DC21 for half.
    Wow, you getting strong with those mythic ones if they really bypass SR/immunity.

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    Hey all
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    Yes, augmented mythic magic missiles are pretty sweet, but she burns through her mythic points pretty quickly. There's a nice synergy between damage dice increase and blood havoc/bloodline arcana increasing with damage dice.

    They don't bypass fire resistance or fire immunity though - only effects that would block a normal magic missile like shield or spell immunity, so brimoraks would be immune.

    Tali wouldn't know this, so she'd waste at least a few missiles of a casting finding that out. The subsequent castings would then be only normal magic missiles instead of magic fire missiles which would lose the bloodline arcana (but not the blood havoc), so they'd only be 2d4+3 per missile but would affect the brimoraks.
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    Actually, I can't cast augmented mythic spells until I reach the required tier. Magic missile (aug) is 4th tier and fireball (aug) is 6th tier.

    Shame, augmented mythic fireball bypasses fire immunity.

    Also unfortunately I only get 3 missiles per casting of mythic fire missile right now. Apologies for the confusion, got a bit of a learning curve for mythic magic. I'll do some editing.

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    No problem, we'll just go for plan B.

    Which is, MOAR FIREBALLS. I think it's one fireball for one MP, so you can blast the cultists, blast two nearest ballistas, then have Gashur raise you up above the outer wall and blast some more ballistas in there. Can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by PFSRD
    Heavy ballistae have a hardness of 5 and 100 hit points. Light ballistae have a hardness of 5 and 50 hit points.
    Oh, damn...

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    The fireball sets fire to combustibles and damages objects in the area.
    I am not sure how this relates to ballistas. They should be wooden enough and mythic version should definitely work, but having brimoraks in there, our best bet would be not to rely on a prolonged process.
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    There should be combustible parts on a ballista - wood, ropes. Plus it might not be easy to put out. Save DC is 21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCgothic View Post
    There should be combustible parts on a ballista - wood, ropes. Plus it might not be easy to put out. Save DC is 21.
    Indeed, ballista's are fired because of rope tension and it has rope holding the javelin in it back. So while a fireball might not destroy the ballista completely, it will burn through the ropes and it will take more than just a few minutes to put those back on. Also if you do it with multiple ballistas, do they have enough rope of the right type to redo them all?
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    question: can we charge to them in one turn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by farothel View Post
    question: can we charge to them in one turn?
    One person could, there is a 5ft wide passage through the charnel house. The others would have to wait bhind the leader or climb (wel difficult ground so scramble) over the piles of bodies on either side
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    I've taken said passage, waiting for the others to come to my assistance.
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    I think we are waiting for DM. Gashur goes after the ghouls.

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    Sorry. All of my games have been suffering as just overwhelmed at the moment with real world.
    Iíll try and get back to posting when as soon as possible
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    Sorry to hear it's crazy for you IRL.

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    Nasty! That hits, so FORT (1d20+6)[15] plus mythic surge (1d6)[4] DC18 or paralysed.

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    Oh damn, those damage rolls: (1d10+23)[28] (1d10+23)[31] (1d10+23)[30]

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    I'll also let you know that I'll be away from the 2nd of September until the 17th. I should have Wifi in the hotels and I take everything with me so I will be able to continue, but I might reply a bit slower at times.
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    Who's turn is it here?
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    Burning arc reflex save (1d20)[17]

    With the first two attack missing I'm assuming Gashur will burn the 2nd mythic point for the fleet charge on the Berbalang as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrK View Post
    With the first two attack missing I'm assuming Gashur will burn the 2nd mythic point for the fleet charge on the Berbalang as well?
    Correct. And now behold the glory of AC 13... three hits out of three and one of them maybe a crit.

    Fort: (1d20+7)[21] (1d20+7)[16] (1d20+7)[16]

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    Confirming that crit (1d20+9)[12], additional (1d6+3)[4] damage

    EDIT: As he's paralysed after attack #2 that means the confirmation for attack #3 should land
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    okay, I messed up the damage rolls, but as both attacks are a natural 1, I don't think it matters.
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    With Gshur paralyzed and Jessica missing its all coming down Tali and Mong
    Although Leonius could be coming to help if you wanted?
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    I would not mind anyone save the poor helpless half-orc, but whether we need Leonius's help would probably depend on the effect of Tali's blasting...

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    Tali... Mong... Time for you guys to save the day
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