DrK Wrath Righteous Reboot OOC

[farothel]

I'm back in the land of internet, although still on holiday (so replies might be slow). where are we at the moment? I think we're about to do a mass battle if I'm not mistaken.

Maybe we can form a squad that goes around the enemies and makes sure none can escape and warn the others we're coming?

[u-b]

Grease and Obscuring Mists/Web? What's the recommend prep for this rumble guys?

Grease, Web and Glitterdust are universal enough to always have them. Well, Web assumes we will be in a camp or a settlement, not in an open field, but that's likely the case.

Gashur might eventually like any or all of the following (not from the start so we don't waste the duration):
1. Bull's Strength.
2. Heroism.
3. Enlarge Person + Cat's Grace.

...in rougly that order of preference. That said, four slots is a lot, so maybe we should have just Bull's Strength on everyone and leave the rest of the slots directly offensive.

[farothel]

I can take one bless spell. It will only last 2 minutes, but 50ft radius is quite a lot of people who can profit from it, bolstering the lancers during their initial attack.

[TankLaser007]

How's this look to everyone?

Level 1:

• Abundant Ammo [7 minutes / 70 rounds]
• Abundant Ammo [7 minutes / 70 rounds]
• Grease [7 minutes / 70 rounds]
• Grease [7 minutes / 70 rounds]
• Obscuring Mist [7 minutes / 70 rounds]
• Obscuring Mist [7 minutes / 70 rounds]

Level 2:

• Web [70 minutes / 700 rounds]
• Web [70 minutes / 700 rounds]
• Bull's Strength

[Spore]

OOC talk right now. I am entirely unclear what kind of mechanical things the DM wants from us right now?

[TankLaser007]

OOC talk right now. I am entirely unclear what kind of mechanical things the DM wants from us right now?

Likewise, I've not gone over PF mass battle rules, only some home brew, so I'm just planning on letting those "in charge" of the battle point us in the right direction until battle is joined and maybe we peel off to deal with specific threats/targets/trouble

[Spore]

I guess the idea is that we vaguely describe how the army should assault the camp, and thus have a slightly different upcoming battle. Clever decisions would help the army and party, and we can somewhat change the pressure we as the heroic group face.

So my idea is taking the generals because while we are effective, we are kind of single target at the moment (with Tali as a notable exception, but everything will change once the Fireball nation attacks).

[DrK]

OOC talk right now. I am entirely unclear what kind of mechanical things the DM wants from us right now?

Likewise, I've not gone over PF mass battle rules, only some home brew, so I'm just planning on letting those "in charge" of the battle point us in the right direction until battle is joined and maybe we peel off to deal with specific threats/targets/trouble

I guess the idea is that we vaguely describe how the army should assault the camp, and thus have a slightly different upcoming battle. Clever decisions would help the army and party, and we can somewhat change the pressure we as the heroic group face.

So my idea is taking the generals because while we are effective, we are kind of single target at the moment (with Tali as a notable exception, but everything will change once the Fireball nation attacks).

For all of these things a general battle plan, then it cna go to the mass battle rules (as a test really) and obviously there is always some sort of direct threat for the "zoom in" combat swirling around the PCs

[farothel]

As I said, send a squad to cover the back door (to prevent anybody escaping) and then charge in (maybe keep another squad in reserve, just in case). I can use my mythic power to move quite quickly and if I take bless as a spell, you can get a lot of people in the radius.

[TankLaser007]

Is there a map/visual aid of the rough lay of the land? How tall is the mill and how intact does it look? Any visible choke points? Or passages? Looking to cut off/limit manoeuvrability of enemies disallow good charge/flanking vectors...

[u-b]

So choose you tactics for mass combat
Cavalry tactics may be a good one
THen rolls for your Offense and Defense.

KNIGHTS OF KENABRES ACR 3
LG Medium army of human knights
hp 16
DV 18; OM +8 ranged
Tactics expert flankers, standard, withdraw
Resources improved armor, improved weapons (mwk cold iron), mounts, ranged weapons (longbows)
Special aura of courage, channel positive energy, divine health, lay on hands, mercy, smite evil, spellcasting
Speed 3; Morale +1; Consumption 5

Some cavalry-related tactics seems appropriate, but the army is not listed to have one. Gashur is not in the lead (or maybe to some extent with example when the real action starts), but I'll try to propose my best understanding of what we should do.

Tactics phase:
1. Choosing the Reckless strategy for the first round of combat: OM +4, DMG +6, DV -4.
2. Using Spellcasting special ability: OM +1(?), DV +1(?).
3. Using Smite Evil special ability: OM +2(?).
4. No Battlefield Conditions?

Ranged Phase:
5. The archers shoot arrows while closing. Attack 1d20+15 damage +6.

Melee Phase:
6. The lancers chage in. Attack 1d20+15 damage +6.

If the above is correct and agreed upon, someone go ahead and roll.

[farothel]

Looks okay to me. But where can I find these rules, as I don't think I've seen them before? The only mass battle rules I've ever used are in L5R.

EDIT: I can add a bless to my 30ft radius of army. That gives a +1 to attack and saves vs fear.

[u-b]

Here's the whole thing.

[u-b]

Ranged Phase:
5. The throw javelins while closing. Attack (1d20+5)[8]?

Melee Phase:
6. Join in after the other armies engage. Attack (1d20+5)[10]?

I think this cannot be salvaged, except if I can use Jessica's reroll(s): melee attack (1d20+5)[17].

[farothel]

I think this cannot be salvaged, except if I can use Jessica's reroll(s): melee attack [roll0].

If you're within 30ft of Jessica, yes, you can. It's all allies. I thought it would make the first attack more powerful if misses can be rerolled.

[Starbuck_II]

I guess my singing can boost the attack rolls (Str) of armies?

Should I do like Gashur and be one man army?

[u-b]

I guess my singing can boost the attack rolls (Str) of armies?

In theory, yes. In practice I'm not sure how it works. Mass combat rules give one round worth of +2 offense -1 defense to normal barbarian rage, but a rage induced in someone not used to it is worse than that. We could asign it +1 offense -1 defense, but we are already reckless to get the damage bonus that comes with it, so skewing it even more towards the offense might be not very useful. I mean we don't want more offense than needed to destroy enemy army and dumping defense will just increase how much damage we take in the process.

Should I do like Gashur and be one man army?

Not necessarily. I mean, you are not a CN guy of Gorum with a relaxed view on staying in formation and discipline in general, but if you roll well, that absolutely will count. Just make sure you are not targeted by any other army, because 1 hit point is not a lot.

[TankLaser007]

I don't have to roll anything going in w/ the calvary? I just add modifiers to the unit/army based on my skill set? I've not had a chance to go over the mass combat rules and likely wont' before the weekend as I have a rather full schedule this week.

[farothel]

Who's turn is it? I'm not fully familiar with the mass battle rules (reading those while jet lagged was probably not the best idea and since I've not really had the time to go through them in detail).

[DrK]

Probably me
I’ve been having a rough week so well behind in all things game related

[DrK]

Re roll for the smite charg (1d20+12)[16]

[u-b]

Knights:
- ranged attack (1d20+8)[10] - DV 12 EDIt: 16 on the re-roll. then add +1 for the bless for 17
SMITE EVIL (1d20+12)[14] - DV 12

So, how much damage have we caused? I see strategies as written are somewhat controversial, so, is it...
((17 - 12) + 6) + ((14 - 12) + 6) = 19

Or is it...
(17 - 12) + (14 - 12) = 7

And can Gashur give his best estimate of the percentage of this w.r.t. the total (Profession (Soldier) (1d20+5)[13])?

[Spore]

I am just massively confused at this point.

[farothel]

I think we best leave the bit battle to the army and we go after the enemy commanders with our group.

[RCgothic]

Definitely up for roasting some commanders!

In future battles Tali will be able to effect more of a strategic impact, but lvl2 is still too low level to affect the course of battles.

[u-b]

I'll wait for DM's say about the numbers. It's not like enemy leadership is going anywhere.

[farothel]

Definitely up for roasting some commanders!

In future battles Tali will be able to effect more of a strategic impact, but lvl2 is still too low level to affect the course of battles.

We're lvl 5, no?

I'll wait for DM's say about the numbers. It's not like enemy leadership is going anywhere.

They might have a teleportation circle in that thing, so yes, I would like to go after them immediately. In that tower is most likely also the maps, communication and the like and the less time they have to destroy that, the better.

[u-b]

We're lvl 5, no?

Sorcerers for you.

[Spore]

Definitely up for roasting some commanders!

In future battles Tali will be able to effect more of a strategic impact, but lvl2 is still too low level to affect the course of battles.

Same with my spell list. Anything short of 3rd level spells feels incredibly lackluster, even if Bless is a boon to any soldier.

[TankLaser007]

Probably me
I’ve been having a rough week so well behind in all things game related

I'm with you mate, just getting caught up now. Been a week. Had issues with my ISP too, a bit knackered but going to catch up now, hopefully. APologies to all for my absence.

Edit: how many rounds passed in the initial clashes, for spell durations. Do we have a sound count of the number and general "look" / type of enemies we saw go into the tower? They, warriors, clerics, magic users, Tieflings, humans, other? More or less than a dozen?