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Thread: Afterlife
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2021-08-12, 06:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
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Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-12, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
well it's not QT shenanigans, and usually the rolepost is sacred and so won't be spied on. This is why I cautioned against stating the win-con inside a QT. Only use it here in public.
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new votecount because of ninjas:
Snowblaze (4): Murska, Apogee1, Supagoof, Aventine
bladescape (1):rogue_alchemist
rogue_alchemist (4): Batcathat, gac3, Snowblaze, Xihirli
gac3 (1): CaoimhinTheCape,
Aventine (2): Book Wombat, bladescape
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2021-08-12, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'm no longer on you.
Also Aventine sniped you.
Also no, the rapid-fire posting is me being like "HE'S CONTRIDICTING HIMSELF AND MUST BE-- Wait this actually is a pretty good post. Did I get it wrong?" You'll see me do that a lot whenever I'm processing through things.
Take it as you will."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-08-12, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-08-12, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Last edited by bladescape; 2021-08-12 at 07:03 AM.
"Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-08-12, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2013
Re: Afterlife
bastard mechanic. You don't call something "bastard" unless you're messing with something that wouldn't normally be, or shouldn't be, messed with.
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Yes, it is the wolves' job to push mislynches. That means that if you are obviously pushing mislynches intentionally you are obviously a wolf.
Being worried about looking like you are intentionally pushing a mislynch is very much a wolf state of mind. Why are you trying to act like it isn't?
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2021-08-12, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2019
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Re: Afterlife
Yes, I know I should switch my vote. Stuff's finally happening quickly, I don't have much time and my internet's patchy. I should be able to catch up properly in about 3 hours or so.
I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-12, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Yeah, sure, intentionally trying to avoid looking like you are pushing MISLYNCHES in particular. But what does "Pushing mislynches intentionally" Look like?
If I'm pushing someone (And inviting people to scrutinise me) I'm usually not going to be 100% unless I have something like a cop check.
Your argument basically hinges on town never doubting themselves, which is... not how it works."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-08-12, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
"Wolves want to cause mislynches while doing so in a way that avoids them being blamed for it."
I am, literally, making the same argument that you did. That trying to cause a mislynch, while being worried about taking heat for causing a mislynch, is wolfy. That looking like you are preparing for a lynch to be a mislynch before the flip reveals whether or not the lynch was a mislynch is wolfy.
Townies aren't generally preoccupied with making sure they don't look bad due to a mislynch happening, even if they are doubting themselves. They are preoccupied with finding wolves.
My argument doesn't rely on town never doubting themselves, it relies on scum being more worried about looking bad due to being wrong than town.
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2021-08-12, 07:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
If that's your argument then I'm just going to move on. Because I was literally encouraging people to scrutinise me if R_A flipped town.
But at this point it's people arguing the interpretation of words. I've stated mine, you're allowed to take whatever opinion you want from it.
That being said, I'm leaving my vote on you until I find something else I think is wolf."Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-08-12, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Never mind, I have some time now.
Anyway, yeah, I liked rogue_alchemist's response but... meh, sure I can switch off and rejoin closer to EOD if I have to. Going back to Apogee1 for reasons earlier covered (opportunistic fourth vote and coming back to say something pretty obvious and not give any thoughts). Anyone interested in joining me?
I'm inclined to say the bladescape/Aventine argument is TvT (if I'm wrong on that Aventine is more likely to be a wolf than bladescape). Which kind of implies town are fighting and wolves are just sitting back and watching.
The problem being it's hard to know who's a wolf watching town tear itself apart, who's busy IRL and who's just normally pretty quiet. Especially when there's probably an overlap between those categories.Last edited by Snowblaze; 2021-08-12 at 07:58 AM. Reason: Fixing grammar
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Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-12, 07:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2013
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2021-08-12, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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- Whose eye is that eye?
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2021-08-12, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2016
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Re: Afterlife
since we seem to be moving votes, I'm good with voting
Apogee1for voting Snow, popping back in to comment on something else but not changing vote or pushing Snow or anything helpful.Last edited by rogue_alchemist; 2021-08-12 at 12:16 PM.
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2021-08-12, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2017
Re: Afterlife
If you're asking who wants you to select them for a QT, I'll ask that I'm one of the people. For you, I think it's better if you don't announce your plans out loud in case Wolves want to use that info.
I was suspicious of Rogue's post a couple pages back, saying that his role indicated that he was clearly a Ghost and Town. This clarification is the same experience I had so I very much trust him as Town.
So, where does that leave my vote/opinions?
gac3 - With the number of people who have posted (and not counterclaimed) it's pretty safe to assume that gac is the Medium. By definition he is not a wolf.
Snowblaze - She's had absolutely no interest in self preservation this game. Leading wagon for most of the day and still targets people who have 0 or 1 votes against them. Doesn't seem like there's a team trying to protect her either: the only wagon to take the lead from her was rogue_alchemist and that fizzled pretty quick with people going right back to her. Off chance that Snow is partners with bladescape or Batcathat who joined the RA wagon and are still there or moved to someone other than Snow but I don't think that's the case.
rogue_alchemist - has felt town to me this game and with the clarification in his quote above I'm sure he is town.
Aventine - the recent conversation between Ave and blade doesn't give me much of an indication if either is Town/Wolf. Even if I don't agree with the bladescape wagon/case necessarily I like that Aventine made it and didn't just jump in line with one of the already made wagons.
Apogee1 - Apogee hasn't said much of anything: a sorta random vote on Snow (where it has been all day) and a post believing that gac is the medium. To me, this reads as someone who is happy with how the Day is going and doesn't want to rock the boat (bonus points for the most likely lynches being townreads to me).
Vote Count
Aventine (2): Book Wombat, bladescape
Snowblaze (4): Supagoof, Apogee1, Murska, Aventine
rogue_alchemist (3): Xihirli, gac3, Batcathat
Apogee1 (3): Snowblaze, rogue_alchemist, CaoimhinTheCape
No vote: EmmyNecromancer
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2021-08-12, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
So the two top wagons and someone town reading the two top wagons are voting me.
Not a wolf driven push at all, I’m sure.
I’ve been pretty busy this day phase so haven’t gotten a chance to do a ton.
Snow continues to rub me the wrong way.
I like Aventine. Then again, I normally do.
Neutrals bore me but they should either be investigated or killed before endgame.
Rogue I have no opinion on outside of wagonomics.
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2021-08-12, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2019
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Re: Afterlife
Major town points to Caoimhin for the vote ;)
@Aventine I just townread bladescape more than you. I didn't really get your case on him, and beyond that there's a sort of gut sense that he's different to how he was in PJ/Craziest. It's one of those reads that's hard to put into words.
Apogee, I'd like it if you could elaborate on why I "rub you the wrong way".I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-12, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'm not 100% sure how this approximately works (as the post was made near dead middle of the hour, so I don't know if they are going for the half-hour as the time to end or if they are going to round one way or the other), but it was made
78 hours ago, so we have about32 more hours to go.Last edited by rogue_alchemist; 2021-08-12 at 10:18 AM. Reason: math is hard
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2021-08-12, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'd like to play my "get out of death free" card and use it to summon another vote or two on Apogee.
gac3, I know you don't have much of a reason to help me out, but *puppy eyes* can you vote Apogee please?
I'm not going to vote rogue_alchemist unless I'm sure it's the only way for me to live.
My legacy if I do die is that rogue_alchemist/bladescape/Caoimhin are all town, Aventine is likely town, and don't let anyone get away with flying under the radar.
Not certain how available I'll be from here on out. Good luck, everyone.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-12, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2016
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Re: Afterlife
Apogee1 (3):CaoimhinTheCape, rogue_alchemist, Snowblaze
Snowblaze (4):Aventine, Murska, Apogee1, Supagoof
Aventine (2): bladescape, Bookwombat
rogue_alchemist (3):Batcathat, gac3, Xihirli
not voting: EmmyNecromancer
time left about 1 hour.
blade, you've been pretty active, how about joining me on the Apogee train (or wagon)? I really don't like that Murska Apogee1 and Supagoof all voted and haven't moved or said much and just bussed Snow pretty much the whole time. gac or Xi, if you get back on feel free to update your votes off of me to at least save Snow, if not to actively lynch Apogee1.
Snow don't feel bad for voting me. If you do, I'll join you and make sure it is not a tie that has to be resolved, as you seem more valuable than me at this point.
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2021-08-12, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Wow. That's... quite the offer.
Would you be prepared to stake the game on my being town? Because I'm pretty close to that stage on you, I don't see a world in which a wolf ever makes that offer.
If you are, and if no-one else shows up to vote Apogee before EOD... I'd do it, if only because I'm going to be more active than you going forward (should return to normal midway through the night if I live).
Thank you.
(But seriously, someone please vote Apogee.)I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-12, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
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2021-08-12, 12:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
But the problem is if you die and flip town, I don't want people to turn around and kill me day two (like I snarled about earlier) because then your sacrifice will be in vain and town will be in LyLo which is even worse than me dying today.
(*insert pleading for someone to vote Apogee here*)
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Okay. I'll give it twenty minutes, and if no-one's voted Apogee by then I'll vote you.
Honestly if that does end up happening I'd prefer to just let the RNG decide which of us does. If only to ease my own guilt.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-12, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2015
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- Behind you. RIGHT NOW.
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Re: Afterlife
Hey I'm back. Apparently a thousand things are happening but I'm being asked to take my vote off of (one of the) the second place wagon(s) to save the leading wagon? No Lynch for the moment while I go back and read stuff.
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2021-08-12, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
No, wait. Better idea. How about you self-vote, and I stay on Apogee? That way if no-one switches it goes to RNG, and whichever of us dies the other is 100% clear (since a wolf would try and switch last second).
Down for that?I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-12, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-08-12, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2015
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- Behind you. RIGHT NOW.
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Re: Afterlife
Well now I'm confused.
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2021-08-12, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-12, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'm not sure that saves you as much. Not that I want you to be lynched D2, but basically you just convinced me to put my neck on the line for a toss-up (which I haven't confirmed the tie lynch rule either). I guess wolf you would switch last minute to me and guarantee my lynch. So you are right, this will clear you.
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2021-08-12, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature