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Thread: Afterlife
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2021-08-15, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I'm not crazy. If I'm alive tomorrow I will look through your posts and see if I'm missing something. But my point was less "BW is suspicious" and more "I have way too many townreads".
Murska, what information does Emmy flipping town give us? Other than "we had TvT wagons day two so which one people were on is largely NAI"?I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-15, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2017
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2021-08-15, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
...getting seriously paranoid right now, because I think in a lot of worlds wolves have an easy path to victory here.
I need to take some time to think this over. I'm going to sleep on it, and if I still believe in it in the morning I will let you know what it is.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-15, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2013
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2021-08-15, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
My paranoia is in overdrive.
General call: don't post anything in your role QT that you wouldn't be fine sharing in public. There could be a wolf version of Supagoof's role.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-15, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-08-16, 01:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2019
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Re: Afterlife
...okay, yeah, I was probably over-reacting. Even in the worst-case scenario we still have a mislynch before LyLo and I’d say we have a good shot at hitting a wolf in two attempts.
Just don’t blindly kill Emmy tomorrow. Have counterwagons. Re-evaluate. Consider town!Emmy worlds. Make everyone produce content and take stances on the wagons. I doubt I’ll be alive to do any of that... although then again I’ve only narrowly escaped one death so far so I should have a Get Out Of Death Free left.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-16, 02:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Whose eye is that eye?
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2021-08-16, 06:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2017
Re: Afterlife
Just so everyone is aware, the Cao/blade chat made by gac currently has 6 Unique views (2 users who have not logged in). We suspect that chat has been compromised somehow with the two extra views (The 4 logged in views are AV, myself, Blade, Gac).
There really isn't much extra I've posted in that chat aside from speculating on a possible night kill/what wolves would do with someone in a chat made by gac. The kill target thing ends up being WIFOM so in case I die, wanted to say I trust blade right now and think the chat got leaked through a power. Don't give him a free pass but if he were a wolf I'd expect 1 extra user not 2.
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2021-08-16, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
a) I'm pretty sure the rules specifically said "no linking QTs, even with your wolfbuddies" so that's not evidence for town!blade
b) okay, that implies I was right about part of my paranoia. If the wolf with Supagoof's power targeted gac3, wolves would get the link to you/blade which is in gac3's role QT... though what's more concerning is that wolves would also get the redacted part of gac3's role PM which they haven't shared, plus (if one is willing to out themself) be able to communicate freely with them and persuade them to side with wolves.
So... yeah. Trying to work out if I want to die and avoid dealing with this mess or live so I can try and work out what I'm wrong about/who I'm incorrectly townreading.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
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2021-08-16, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2011
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Re: Afterlife
"Trust bladescape, Shadow of Doubt,"
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2021-08-16, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
...okay. I just realised that there’s very little chance I survive tonight. Which means I should just out what I came up with yesterday evening.
I’m not saying this is right. There is definitely a possibility that I’m just seeing what I want to see and finding connections that aren’t there. But I think I need to just put my cards on the table at this point.
My theory: the team is Murska/Book Wombat.
Yes, I am aware that Murska voted for Apogee. But immediately after voting Apogee, he posted this:
If he thinks any wolf would do that, he’d clearly do it as a wolf himself. And a player who would risk a 50% chance of death to be cleared is also a player who would throw his partner under the bus to be cleared. And in those circumstances... Xihirli was around and was likely to vote Apogee. Someone else could also do that, and then wolves would be screwed. It’s a move I’d consider myself in that position, though I don’t know if I’d have the nerve to go through with it.
This was what triggered my paranoia in the first place. That “easy route to victory” I mentioned? What I was thinking at the time was “mislynch Emmy day three, persuade gac3 to wolfside so day four is LyLo, and Aventine always votes bladescape so if they’re TvT wolves can pile on and win”. I don’t know if that’s actually possible in practice (gac3 is too much of an unknown; incidentally, gac3, I’d really appreciate it if you’d be willing to backstab wolves and work with us.)
But this post is pushing the exact agenda wolves need to win.
I found this post... slightly odd... at the time and it also fits the wolf agenda. The last thing wolves want is me clearing someone they have marked as an important mislynch.
Short on time so I’ll give you the tl;dr on BW:
- I still haven’t found a reason to tr him
- he’s been posting at night but not really contributing as much in the day (this makes sense in my head but I don’t know if it’s a valid read)
- Murska voting Supagoof yesterday when BW already had a vote could mean they’re partnered.
Will elaborate more if I have time later.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-16, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2013
Re: Afterlife
Some notes:
1. I am like very very confident that BW/Murska are not the remaining wolves. Like, would bet my victory on it confident. Maybe one of them but not both.
2. I'd say there's a decent chance my personal QT can't be compromised.
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2021-08-16, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2019
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I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
Werewolf games won: 24
Werewolf games lost: 14
Games as town: 23.5
Games as neutral: 5.5
Games as wolf: 9
Games narrated: 1
Deaths: 17
Extended Signature
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2021-08-16, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2013
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2021-08-16, 12:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2014
Re: Afterlife
Night Two Ends
As the night goes on, another of your number disappears into the heavens due to the actions of the exorcists, influenced by the saboteurs. However, as you look around, you realize there is another spirit missing, one that nobody noticed leave. Perhaps she found peace in not knowing that the rest of you are denied.
Snowblaze was killed. They were a Ghost.
EmmyNecromancer was autolynched by request. They were a Ghost.
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2021-08-16, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2019
Re: Afterlife
Both of them was town? I had almost convinced myself that Snow's warning was a wolf trying to score towncred.
I don't know what to think about the Murska/BW theory, I need to go back and reread some things.
Gut feeling or do you have some mysterius medium insight in the matter?
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2021-08-16, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2013
Re: Afterlife
Yes. My role as Medium has provided some evidence that one of them is about as confirmed town as you can get in this game.
Also the redacted part of my role.
Spoiler: RedactedAdditionally, you are immune to some night powers.
Also I'm town to pretty much definitely winning night 3. Only two people left to mark off my list
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But the redacted part is why I think I am not compromised QT wise.
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2021-08-16, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2017
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- Germany
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Re: Afterlife
Player List:
1. Apogee1 - Psychic Polterguist
2. Aventine - ???
3. Batcathat- ???
4. Book Wombat - ??? Ghost
5. bladescape - ???
6.CaoimhinTheCape - ???
7.EmmyNecromancer - Ghost
8. gac3 - Medium
9. Murska - ???
10. rogue_alchemist - Ghost
11. Snowblaze - Ghost
12. Supagoof - Possessive Ghost
13. Xihirli - ???Every day...
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2021-08-16, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Seven people left (I left me out for now).
Worst case for town:
2 wolves.
5-2
Mislynch today
4-2
Night kill
3-2
So tomorrow is lynch or lose for town. So interesting.
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BatCatHat for now
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Also Snow's death makes me feel confident my personal QT has not been compromised.
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2021-08-16, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Isn't worst case for town... 3 wolves?
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2021-08-16, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-08-16, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
I am somewhat surprised to be alive as well. Later tonight I can do a more detailed read but for now I think it would be helpful for everyone to put down a vote/top 2 suspects.
Spoiler: 2 Wolves remaining
Day 3 - 2 Wolves - 5 Town - 1 Neutral
Night 3 - 2 Wolves - 4 Town - 1 Neutral
Day 4 - 2 Wolves - 3 Town - 1 Neutral
Night 4 - 2 Wolves - 2 Town - 1 Neutral
Spoiler: 3 Wolves remaining
Day 3 - 3 Wolves - 4 Town - 1 Neutral
Night 3 - 3 Wolves - 3 Town - 1 Neutral
Day 4 - 3 Wolves - 2 Town - 1 Neutral
gac, you seem to be working with town so far but that's not quite the case. If you decide to side with Wolves tomorrow that's 3 v 3 and Town basically loses. Today is important even if we have a shot with you tomorrow.
If we started with 4 Wolves (and have 3 remaining) then today is lynch or lose and we need Gac on our side.
Is that something you'd be willing to share with the class? I have a suspicion on what you mean but I don't want to jump to conclusions.
Votecount:
Batcathat (1): gac3
Not Voting: Batcathat, Book Wombat, Xihirli, CaoimhinTheCape
No Posts: Aventine, bladescape, Murska
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2021-08-16, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Not my secret to share. Waiting on permission.
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2021-08-16, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Claiming to maybe help against confusion.
I'm the Psychic Ghost.
Night 1 I targeted gac3 and myself with the goal to help them and on Night 2 gac3 and Snowblaze.Every day...
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2021-08-16, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-08-16, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-08-16, 03:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2017
Re: Afterlife
Spoiler: Day 1 Final Votes
Aventine: Book Wombat, bladescape
Snowblaze: Supagoof, Apogee1, Aventine
rogue_alchemist: Batcathat
Apogee1: Snowblaze, CaoimhinTheCape, Murska, rogue_alchemist, Xihirli, gac3
No Vote: EmmyNecromancer
Spoiler: Day 2 Final Votes
EmmyNecromancer: gac3, Batcathat, Book Wombat, bladescape
Supagoof: Murska, Snowblaze, Xihirli, CaoimhinTheCape, Aventine
So, we know now that both Day 2 wagons were town - Aventine's vote on Bladescape could be coming from Town or Wolf, no indication there. Aventine and myself were voting Book for a bit but obviously those votes (and the vote on Blade) wasn't trying to save anybody.
Confirming that Day 1 wagons (Snow and RA) were both town until the jump to Apogee means I still feel good about Murksa and Xi. Gac was the last person to join that wagon, coming from RA. If both were Wolves they would have had the votes (particularly late in the Day) to save Apogee, I'd say at most 1 is a Wolf.
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2021-08-16, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Afterlife
Two votes and zero motivation. I kind of suspect that gac (whether or not helping the wolves) has some selfish motivations. Assuming he's honest about his wincon, I'm one of the people he still need to contact but only as long as I'm alive.
Murska following along without any explanation seems shady, especially in combination with Snow's arguments.
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2021-08-16, 03:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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