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    Default Furry Art Horniness Scale

    Ok, first all, just this side of red text: This is not about porn. This is sub-porn horniness scale of furry art. No offense if you like your porn a bit anthropomorphic, but I want that clear from the outset.

    That said:

    I am working on a Savage Worlds setting about mutant animals. Obviously, this is going to involve a lot of anthropomorphic animals in the art. But I want to be able to describe to people what kind of art I'm looking for, with relatively good examples. But I'm having trouble defining "high horniness" that is still beneath soft core porn.

    Here's my standing definitions:

    1) Low Horniness: Obviously anthropomorphic animals, but not drawn in any way that is supposed to be appealing to the public at large. Clothing is functional; if minimal, it is not designed to titillate. For example, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles wear mostly belts and masks... no pants, no shirts. But that's not to make them look sexy... they just look like turtles.

    2) Moderate Horniess: Features that mimic human secondary sex traits (breasts, hips). Clothing is more revealing or form fitting, but still relatively practical. An example here would be the canon depiction of Lola Bunny in Space Jam. She's got breasts, she's got hips, she's wearing shorts... but that's clothing for a basketball game.

    3) High Horniness: This is where I run out of examples. The character is obviously depicted as being conventionally sexy. Clothing isn't just form-fitting, it's practically vacuumed-sealed to them. They may be wearing a bathing-suit level of clothing. The closest I can come is maybe Tigra, from Marvel Comics. She runs around in a bikini, makes lots of sex jokes, but is, for the most part, an anthropomorphic animal.

    Like I said, I'm talking sub-porn level. No pure nudity, no visible sex organs.
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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    First:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hall View Post
    No offense if you like your porn a bit anthropomorphic
    You meant "no offense if you like your porn a bit zoomorphic" didn't you? Because I think porn where nothing is even remotely human-like is still the minority.

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    3) High Horniness: This is where I run out of examples. The character is obviously depicted as being conventionally sexy. Clothing isn't just form-fitting, it's practically vacuumed-sealed to them. They may be wearing a bathing-suit level of clothing. The closest I can come is maybe Tigra, from Marvel Comics. She runs around in a bikini, makes lots of sex jokes, but is, for the most part, an anthropomorphic animal.

    Like I said, I'm talking sub-porn level. No pure nudity, no visible sex organs.
    what exactly are you looking for? Examples of famous characters that fit that description? Because, I am not sure how mainstream that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    what exactly are you looking for? Examples of famous characters that fit that description? Because, I am not sure how mainstream that is.
    Pretty much, yes.
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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    Horniness is about how the camera treats the character, more than the specifics of what they look like.

    Consider what's centred in frame and how the character is posed not necessarily what they're wearing. (If you want an example of an entire film where most of the central cast is female, extremely attractive, wearing about one set of clothes between eight, and is never actually horny, then rewatch Mad Max Fury Road.

    If it's animated then consider how the camera moves around the character as well.

    That lets you know what you're supposed to find significant about the depiction.

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    I get what you're going for, though maybe I'd have titled it "Sexiness Scale" instead of "Horniness Scale." Despite the act being part of the former's label, I'm more likely to associate being horny with porn than simply being sexy, personally speaking.

    Anyway - let me answer your question with a question. Where would you classify, say, the dancing tigers in Zootopia?

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    Where would Krystal from Star Fox count as?

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    She's in a skin tight suit and posed relatively proactively. However it also can't be considered porn in any way. Mind you, if you search for krystal fox without safe search on, you'll basically immediately run into porn. So be warned.
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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    what exactly are you looking for? Examples of famous characters that fit that description? Because, I am not sure how mainstream that is.
    Pretty much, yes.
    It sounds much like what Animaniacs' Minerva Mink is famous for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    I get what you're going for, though maybe I'd have titled it "Sexiness Scale" instead of "Horniness Scale." Despite the act being part of the former's label, I'm more likely to associate being horny with porn than simply being sexy, personally speaking.

    Anyway - let me answer your question with a question. Where would you classify, say, the dancing tigers in Zootopia?

    I'd put them at relatively high horniness.

    They're dressed like Chippendales dancers, built to look like extremely fit human men (with a bit of exaggeration), and a lot of their function is looking good and a bit flirty. That's a great example.

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    Where would Krystal from Star Fox count as?

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    She's in a skin tight suit and posed relatively proactively. However it also can't be considered porn in any way. Mind you, if you search for krystal fox without safe search on, you'll basically immediately run into porn. So be warned.
    High moderate, I'd say. She's definitely above Lola Bunny in the horniness of the depiction, but the lack of explicit sex-coding puts her below high.
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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    If you want the full spectrum, here you go:

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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    Beastars.

    Just....Beastars. The anime is either R-rated or damn close to it, but does not contain any actual nudity (as defined by Hollywood i.e. naughty bits on screen). There's sex scenes, there's strippers, and there's some very dark imagery that showcases the interplay between sex and violence. It's not porn, it's just an adult show that doesn't shy away from or sanitize the subject matter. And every last character is an anthropomorphic animal of some kind. Despite the lack of nudity the nature of the show makes me very hesitant to post the "sexy" scenes from it. I advise just watching it - Beastars is a damn good show.

    It's also a good demonstration of how to make a furry character attractive without simply drawing them in a sexualized way. Louis is obviously meant to be a very handsome man, and despite being a deer who is modestly dressed (most of the time) the art conveys this very well. On the distaff side Juno is a clearly attractive wolf even though we pretty much only see her in school clothing that is not sexualized in any way.

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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    Yeah, Beastars in general is a good example of sub-porn "high horniness" for sure. It's the poster child for "I'm not a furry, but..." posts.

    Another good example is this music video:


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    Do you think Cheetah from DC Comics would qualify? In certain incarnations she has more animalistic face traits, and she is definitely on the sexy side, with very revealing clothing and very clear sexual traits.

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    Wait, what? Does anyone need commissions? I (used to) draw these quite a bit until my parents started asking questions, but now I live on my own.
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    Default Re: Furry Art Horniness Scale

    Quote Originally Posted by Rynjin View Post
    Yeah, Beastars in general is a good example of sub-porn "high horniness" for sure. It's the poster child for "I'm not a furry, but..." posts.

    Another good example is this music video:

    "Lone Digger" by Caravan Palace music video (since I can't post links yet. :P)
    Also, definitely the best example I've seen in this thread (the stripper antelope)

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