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    The Protoss lady in charge of the Dark Templar had joined the Hierarch on the bridge, where they were politely disagreeing with each other about what to do next. I could 'hear' their disagreement from all the way across the room, but I figured as long as nobody had their laser swords out it was still a polite one.


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    My vote's for Korhal. It seems more fitting to try and handle Zeratul's last request than to go snooping around in out-of-the-way spots.
    This logic seems sound to me, so I second this.

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    Korhal and solar beam are my votes. The warp in reinforcements thing is nice, but generally I dont think 2 zealots and stalkers are worth the 50 solarite it costs to setup. Its nice for an opening move at the start of a mission to get the first units out fast, but otherwise? meh. I would rather melt bases (and faces) with solar beam. Good job on holding the line. To me the worst section is the back with the flying hybrids and the zerg guardians bombarding from long range. I found the best solution is to wall off the area leaving the ground open at the edge with a decent squadron of dragoons able to run forward to get into range and attack the zerg that can hit your turrets from outside their own range.
    The khaydarin monoliths can hit back against the guardians, but they fire slowly so eventually they get overwhelmed. And that's assuming the hybrids don't put them in stasis fields.
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    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    I do vote for the Solar Beam Cannon!
    Since its pure awesome for grilling just about anything you dislike.
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    I vote for Korhal and the Solar Beam, with Deploy Pylon as your first ability choice. Youve finished one of two missions where deploy pylon isnt fantastic, Solar Beam is just incredible, and Korhal both unlocks a really solid unit AND makes sense from a story perspective, since it gives Karax time to study the Keystone while youre on Glacius.
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    I dreamed I was being chased by hybrids through the streets again, which was nothing new. There was too much smoke and dust in the air to guess where I was, but when I spotted a door that looked intact, I ducked inside to try and hide. Inside, Hierarch Artanis and Matriarch Vorazun were sitting at a table with unopened bottles of beer in front of them, talking.



    “-cannot be serious. It is not even Protoss, not to mention entirely untrained, and on this you would wager the fate of our people?”



    “I am not yet certain – the potential signs are unmistakable, though they could still be coincidence. But when it is our people's fate at stake, I will turn down no aid or advantage no matter where it comes from.”



    “Very well, Hierarch. What about - “

    Suddenly I was outside again, and for once there wasn't any hybrid trying to eat me. The skies had cleared, and I could see the shape of the Imperial Palace looming ahead. Dreaming about Korhal made sense from homesickness if nothing else, but everything was getting dark like an eclipse. I looked to see what was blocking the sun...and naturally, woke up.

    The hallways were almost empty again when I went for a walk, late at night and with the itchy feeling that came from being in warp on our way to somewhere. Here and there I passed someone else – the population of the ship had jumped immensely with all the refugees off Shakuras - but it was still so huge they bounced around like peas in a can. No one talked to or stopped me, though, and it almost felt like I could hear the faintest sound of music. Following where I thought it was coming from took me to a place I'd never been but had to be the ship's power core room. Aside from all the probes, there was only the guy I remembered with the beard, though now his armor also had some robot octopus arms.



    “Why, hello there, Witness. Welcome to the Spear of Adun's solar core. I do not believe we have met yet – I am Chief Engineer Karax of the Khalai caste.” He scratched at his beard with one hand like it was a reflex, and I wanted to ask why every other Protoss I'd met shaved their chin. Instincts told me it might be rude though, so instead I looked around at the room, trying to figure out where the music was coming from.

    “Hi, Karax. Call me Nora. I just couldn't sleep, and was curious where the music was coming from. Do you have a robot band down here somewhere?”

    He blinked in surprise.



    “You can hear the ship-song? That is unusual, your ears must be unusually sensitive for a Terran. What you hear is the hull of the Spear itself – all things Protoss are designed so that aesthetics and functionality work in tandem. It is pleasing for the ship's crew to walk its corridors surrounded by soothing sounds, but unfortunately there is not enough power to fully energize the systems yet. With time and testing, I can safely feed more solarite into the generators.”



    “Oh. You don't plan on using me to test your experiments, do you? Or try to explain everything you're doing like I'm a ner....vous person? Sorry, but I've had really bad luck over the last few years with...science people.”

    Blink.



    “Certainly not. This ship is a relic of our ancestors' Golden Age, many of its functions I barely understand myself. Even its basest of mechanisms would be beyond your comprehension, though I mean no insult to your species. Is it true your people still fight by using contained chemical reactions to propel solid projectiles at your enemies?”

    It was my turn to blink.



    “Um...I think so? I'm not really a gun sort of girl, but I do have a pistol if you want to look at it?”



    “That would be very kind of you. I have never been able to study a Terran weapon properly before. I will endeavor to return it to you in perfect condition.”

    I wasnt likely to need my revolver on the Spear, so I handed it over, and Karax happily went off to some workbench or another. Maybe now I could get some sleep again.

    A few days later, I felt when we left warp, and got up to head for the bridge. Partway there, we went back into warp again for a few seconds and not smoothly or slowly. Luckily I hadn't had breakfast yet. When I got there, we were in orbit over Korhal, and by the looks of it in the middle of a battle except both sides were Terran battlecruisers shooting at each other. Commander Raynor's face was up on the viewscreen talking to Artanis, though both glanced in my direction when I appeared.



    “Miss Colby! Thank the stars you're alive. You just hang tight for a bit more, darling, and we'll get you back down here where its safe once some little problems get taken care of.”

    He went back to Artanis while I listened. The bad guys here were Moebius Corps, Dr. Narud's private army...well, they had been until Sarah stabbed him in his stupid shapeshifting face a dozen times. Now they were Amon's army instead I guess, rampaging around and killing people because evil dead gods are real jerks sometimes.



    The Sky Shield defense platform had been knocked out of orbit and was about to crash-land on top of Augustgrad, unless someone could get in and repair the stabilizers. Naturally, the Moebius nutcases were camped out on top of them and killing anyone who got close.



    Even Dominion battlecruisers couldn't get close enough for strafing runs with the platform's defensive guns turned against them. But it just so happened we had a ancient starship the size of a small moon, and it didn't need to get close.



    Something called a Solar Lance had just passed Karax's last set of tests right before we got here, and boy howdy did it prove effective. Three giant laser beams obliterated all the defenses set up around the stabilizer in a single massive blast.



    The Dominion wasted no time slipping in some SCVs though the hole we'd opened to start fixing the thing, while Artanis warped down enough troops to make a beachhead on the platform.



    Almost immediately he sent down some Dark Templar, who started wreaking havoc among the Moebius troops with their invisibility and that crazy teleporting blade-dance attack they could do.



    Something was messing with their shields though, even if nothing could see them – it was something Karax called an EMP scrambler, and he wanted the solarite powering it to help fuel the ship.



    The Templar happily complied, tearing it into bits and warping away the wreckage for study.





    Moebius Corp didn't like that, and sent in a bunch of reapers to mess up the nexus point. Too bad they decided to walk past the Dark Templar assault squad in the process.





    I wanted to feel sorry for the Moebius troopers, I really did. First they got mind-controlled by Amon's hybrid, and now they were being slaughtered by Protoss. But there was just something innately funny about seeing a squad of soldiers standing vigilantly on guard right before they collapsed into a pile of severed limbs and armor chunks. I clearly need therapy. Okay, more therapy.



    One very brave Templar volunteered to go up the ramp and spot for the Spear's bombardment. He sadly became a very dead Templar, but it was enough for the solar beams to rain down and annihilate the fortifications.



    Commander Raynor warned us that Moebius Corp was reinforcing the remaining stabilizers with extra troops.





    Not that it helped them, though, when laser beams of doom rained from the sky. The Dark Templar had to do a little bit of cleanup duty, but that was it. There was more excitement going on back at base, with occasional raids from Reapers and Siege Tanks walking into the invisible meat grinder set up there.



    Apparently just to avoid getting bored, they went off and broke another EMP scrambler for loot. The squadron of Vikings guarding it couldn't do a thing to stop them.





    Stabilizer #4 was the same story as the other three – a scout poked their head up the ramp, then laser doom obliterated everything in sight. Unfair, really.



    The final scrambler had an ambush set up above it, waiting for the Dark Templar to attack. This went about as well as trying to ambush a horde of angry bears or something, except with more stabbing.





    One more bombardment and a little bit of cleanup work, and that was it for Moebius Corp's hold on Sky Shield.



    There were only a couple minutes to spare, but that was more than enough time to get the stabilizers working again. I let out the breath I'd been holding for what felt like hours, or maybe weeks – it really was good to be home.



    Hot dang solar lance was incredible here.

    And it's time for Voting, because we've unlocked a new tier of abilities!

    Solarite Total: 75

    Tier 1:
    -Deploy Pylon (0 Solarite): Instant free Pylon at any location.
    -Chrono Surge (25 Solarite): Target building acts 1000% faster for 20 seconds, warping in units or researching upgrades.
    -Warp In Reinforcements (50 Solarite): Instant free Pylon at any location, but it also comes with 2 Melee Warriors (Centurions) and 2 Ranged Warriors (Stalkers).

    Tier 2:
    -Orbital Bombardment (0 Solarite): Strike 5 circular locations for 50 damage (+50 vs. Armored).
    -Temporal Field (25 Solarite): Freeze 3 locations in time-bubbles that stun enemies for 20 seconds.
    -Solar Beam (50 Solarite): Strike 3 line-shaped areas for 200 damage each.

    Tier 3:
    Nexus Overcharge (0 Solarite): Nexus structures get a photon cannon glued to their roof, letting them defend against attackers. "Your probes are under attack!"
    Orbital Assimilation (25 Solarite): Assimilators become automated and no longer need probes to harvest.
    Warp Harmonization (50 Solarite): Robotics Facilities and Stargates can transform into Warp Gates, and all warp-in cooldowns get cut by 20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    Karax doesn't really have a beard, right? It always looked to me more like some sort of bony frill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoxRationis View Post
    Karax doesn't really have a beard, right? It always looked to me more like some sort of bony frill.
    Its not hair, which protoss cant grow, but its a crest on his chin, so people call it a beard. So far as im aware, no explanation for this is ever given.

    As for voting, i vote for Deploy Pylon, which will never not be wonderful, Solar Lance because Ditto, and Orbital Assimilators, because saving supply and minerals getting your gas harvesting up is very convenient. I actually prefer the warp gates, but you cant afford both them and solar lance, and Lance + OA is better than the warp gates + anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Its not hair, which protoss cant grow, but its a crest on his chin, so people call it a beard. So far as im aware, no explanation for this is ever given.

    As for voting, i vote for Deploy Pylon, which will never not be wonderful, Solar Lance because Ditto, and Orbital Assimilators, because saving supply and minerals getting your gas harvesting up is very convenient. I actually prefer the warp gates, but you cant afford both them and solar lance, and Lance + OA is better than the warp gates + anything else.
    Agreed on all points. The assimilators are important due to how resource intensive the protoss are. Getting that up and running is huge. Its especially fun if you keep warping in vespene harvesting as you take over territory. Just a single lone building hanging out grinding more gas for the forge/gates. If it gets blown up in a future attack? Meh, those buildings are cheap and you probably got your moneys worth in gas beforehand anyways. Its been awhile since I played, CAN you get the warp gates and assimilators at the same time? I thought you could only pick one from each category.
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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    Nope, you are right - one choice from each tier maximum, so no combining Orbital Assimilators and Warp Harmonization.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    Faster warping is super tempting. But ive honestly never really had a problem with the speed I get units. Like, ive never been overwhelmed because I didnt have enough summons on tap. But being able to get more units 20% faster? Thats nothing to sneer at, especially since it effects like half or more of your unit creation options. But then you hit the eco bottleneck. 20% faster summons means 20% faster reserve burning. Iirc, without the harmonizing I was generally able to max out summons on 3-4 gateways at a time without running out of resources once everything was setup. Would I be able to still utilize that many at full tilt if they refresh faster? Meh, im sticking with vespene auto gathering. I may want to try a game the other way at some point, but especially for now, there is no real reason seeing as you dont exactly have a lot of ships worth warping in yet.
    "Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
    Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."

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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    Deploy Pylon and Warp Harmonization pair really well to let you drop any of your troops on the front line, get on-demand detection etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Its not hair, which protoss cant grow, but its a crest on his chin, so people call it a beard. So far as im aware, no explanation for this is ever given.
    He's the neckbeard Protoss for the same reason he's the chubby one - it codes him as the master engineer, just like Swann
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    At this point I'm surprised Abathur doesn't have a tentacle beard of some kind.

    Also, I'm kicking myself narrative wise right now, I somehow managed to write this entire update without a giant laser callback.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    At this point I'm surprised Abathur doesn't have a tentacle beard of some kind.
    Technically he's a mad biologist he's pulling from a different archetype. Think more... Grubwiggler or Seth Brundle than keyboard jockey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    At this point I'm surprised Abathur doesn't have a tentacle beard of some kind.

    Also, I'm kicking myself narrative wise right now, I somehow managed to write this entire update without a giant laser callback.
    Well, there is an "Edit Post" button for a reason...

    That said, if you're mostly happy with your write-up, no need to go back.
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    Eh, I'll just call it accidental character development.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Deploy Pylon and Warp Harmonization pair really well to let you drop any of your troops on the front line, get on-demand detection etc.



    He's the neckbeard Protoss for the same reason he's the chubby one - it codes him as the master engineer, just like Swann
    Aside from harmonization thats my general playstyle. Take an objective, drop a pylon, warp in a full set of reinforcements, take the next objective, repeat. I rarely lose enough units to keep my overall total from growing with each boost. Question, has anyone timed vespene to see if its just as efficient as using probes for gas per minute? Or is there a tradeoff in less probes being wasted on gas but less gas overall?
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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Eh, I'll just call it accidental character development.
    Nora was just too distracted by the impending planetary impact killing all her friends, family, and everybody within about a planet of them, clearly.
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    Eh, Raynor said it would only wipe out August grade.

    Question for the people favoring Deploy Pylon and Warp Harmonization; that is 50/75 spent, is the remainder meant for Temporal Field or dumped into Auxiliary Systems?
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Aside from harmonization thats my general playstyle. Take an objective, drop a pylon, warp in a full set of reinforcements, take the next objective, repeat. I rarely lose enough units to keep my overall total from growing with each boost. Question, has anyone timed vespene to see if its just as efficient as using probes for gas per minute? Or is there a tradeoff in less probes being wasted on gas but less gas overall?
    It's the tiniest bit slower. On coop, the devs had to buff the collection rate for Vorazun by 5% to make it match. I don't think they ever patched campaign. For a poor test, I did the first minute of Forbidden Weapons on casual from the archive. With Orbital Assimilation at the 1:00 mark it was at 162 gas. Without it was at 150, but my first probe didn't go in until 0:10. Collecting for another 10s to even out put the probes ahead at 170. So ~ an additional 8 gas per minute per harvester. Keep in mind the mission starts with 50 gas so the difference is 112 harvested to 120.
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    Aside from all the probes, there was only the guy I remembered with the beard, though now his armor also had some robot octopus arms.
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    Oh man, I've missed out on the first two entries entirely, and only happened upon this one by accident. Having performed an archive dive on the two previous threads, I like the common thread of the viewpoint character ending up running with the relevant faction.

    As far as the current choice of spending solarite, my suggestion is: Deploy Pylon/Solar Beam/Orbital Assimilation.

    Right now, you don't have any Robo or Stargate units to build, you can't even build either of those facilities yet. This makes Warp Harmonization... less useful right now. Don't get me wrong, later on it will be amazing, and I'll be suggesting a switch when it makes sense to do so, but for now it isn't worth the extra solarite for a 20% refresh speed on warp-ins. Meanwhile, your previously listed preference for a low-macro playstyle leads to Orbital Assimilation being a natural pick, plus it frees up three probes per Assimilator that you don't have to build/upkeep with supply. That's basically six supply per base you don't have to worry about, which is not nothing. It also means saturating mineral lines faster since you don't have to divert probes to gas, which is not bad.

    Solar Beams are, of course, Solar Beams. Who can say no to Big Freaking Lasers? The only other real option would have been Temporal Field/Chrono Surge. Which is not nothing, but a far more micro-intensive playstyle that you've previously stated isn't really your jam. So yea, let's go with Big Freaking Lasers. Those are always cool.
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