Strongest build in game (Change my mind)

[Eldariel]

Not for lawful evil deity that loves tiranny.

Sorry, minionmancy, the sorcerer wins by a large margin.

Lawful Evil deity loves to be the tyrant, not have their underlings take their stuff without permission. I'm pretty sure Asmodeus would make you regret ever existing if you tried to Planar Ally their trusted toys and then binding them.

[Vafos]

As I just demonstrated,
You are overrating your Wizard. Nothing so far really works as you imagined.
Ahahahaha

[JNAProductions]

ahahahahaha, the game turned right?
look at the hypocrisy.

I love Hypocrisy.

It's consistency. Either we follow what most DMs do, and give the PCs what they want in most situations... Or we follow your rules, in which case the DM actively screws you over and gives you jack all.

Except with the Conjure spells, it's more under your control-YOU are summoning them. Planar Ally is explicitly beseeching someone else for aid. The DM has a lot more leeway to screw you over, or at least not give you the perfect tool, with that spell.

[Vafos]

Well, when the DM sends you nothing but Pegasi, it won't be very useful. :P

Edit: Oh, fiends?

You get Lemures. Enjoy! :P

Thanks!! EXACTLY!!!

Now we have a Lemure and a Mephit ( Wizard's Conjure Elemental).
And I wins the argumentation.
Why, force them to hypocrisy and the DM chooses, wins, again.
Ahahaha


The Sorcerer presented smashes pretty easily Bladesinger/fighter.

Ok.
I have to go now.

[Eldariel]

The Sorcerer presented smashes pretty easily Bladesinger/fighter.

Okay, when did you present how that actually happens? All you said is that your dude walks up to someone whose location they don't know somehow while they're teleporting around the multiverse and casts prep spells and then prays they fail saves. Or waits for someone to walk up to them and die and pray they could cast Antimagic Field dead.

These arguments include nothing about how they actually fare in adventures or scenarios or whatever. This game isn't PvP - that's at most an interesting curiosity that's mostly fairly irrelevant to how strong a character actually is. So even if you proved that (which will obviously never happen since the presented character has no means to hunt the other down or gather information on them or whatever), it would be largely irrelevant to character power.

[Roland St. Jude]

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