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    I like that she always credits herself with her 2 middle initials...you know, just to avoid confusion with all of those other Gwendolyn Kestrels in the RPG industry.

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    Good roast. And true too. As for dragonwrought kobold, I hear that Gwendolyn F.M. Kestrel had disavowed the exploit attributed to certain readings across different supplements that makes dragonwrought kobold into a true dragon, but I've been unable to find verification.
    I would have thought it was about as clear as day to anyone really, I refuse to believe anyone actually believes dragonwrought kobolds are intended to count as true dragons, and are only arguing the case for semantics or for a favourable ruling.
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    The arachnophobe in my group suggested doing this for running City of the Spiderqueen. It was actually less work for me as I didn't need to put in spider tokens

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    Topic: book of Erotic fantasy, Actual subject: Spiders and arachnophobia.. go figure.

    My take on the book (FWIW as I've never used it myself):

    -Get player buy-in. It's been said all over this thread already, but I can't bring myself to post on this topic without mentioning it again.

    -Unlike most expansion books, this book doesn't expand on your existing gameplay, it introduces new gameplay. That's neither good nor bad, but it impacts power level, and therefore deserves some consideration. As I've not seen this mentioned before, let me elaborate: If Bob the BSF's player only has access to the PHB, Bob isn't going to be very powerful. Giving Bob's player access to complete warrior opens up shock trooper, and Bob might become more powerful. And this power-creep will continue upwards (or at least not downwards) with every book you add, until... Bob and the DM get access to BoeF: The DM can now throw in a whole new kind of 'encounters', and Bob might suddenly experience a lack of surplus skill-point to put into 'perform', and find himself lacking in ways he wasn't before. So Bob's powerlevel goes back down. (And the same goes for the wizard, who now may feel the need to prepare 'peacock's beauty' to boost a stat he didn't even have before, but doesn't get any additional spel-slots and/or spells known.) So it's important to determine, and discuss with your players upfront, how much of an impact these new mechanics are going to have. Bob might not want shock trooper if the campaign is going to be all about BoeF mechanics, and vice versa.

    -Be prepared to do a lot of houseruling/repairing. Just as the PHB got things wrong a lot at first (drown healing, lighting rules, etc) so presumably did BoeF. But where the PHB has been complemented/corrected by supplements, a rules compendium, and a host of house rules to be found on fora like this, the BoeF has had no such corrections.
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    I would have thought it was about as clear as day to anyone really, I refuse to believe anyone actually believes dragonwrought kobolds are intended to count as true dragons, and are only arguing the case for semantics or for a favourable ruling.
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    BoEF is ... a real can of worms. It has some things that are tasteful and respectful, some that are balanced, and some that aren't based on horrible puns. There are a few things that are all three of those at the same time, but they're kind of hard to find.

    I will say that I've used exactly one thing from BoEF in a "regular" game, and it worked out extremely well. My wife wanted to play a Gnome Artificer whose thing was crafting magical jewelry. BoEF does have a table for alternate magic item slots, based on types of jewelry, that's extremely sensible and balanced just as well as the regular item slots are. More of a fluff change or re-skinning than an actual new rule? Maybe, but it really surprised me there hadn't been anything else like it published.

    For the more NSFW stuff, like everybody else has said, do not spring that on your players without asking first. You do not want to be yet another entry on the "creepy D&D experience" pile.

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    Topic: book of Erotic fantasy, Actual subject: Spiders and arachnophobia.. go figure.
    Proposed solution: sexy Drow matrons.

    Now, when it comes to the book, years ago I read a very good description of it: "Its various content are balanced, mature, relevant to the game, pick two".

    I never used it in my games, nor in any game I ever played in, although some of the contents can be interesting. I remember it providing a crossbreeding table, listing what race could crossbreed with what other race. I found it amusing, even if I never really used it.

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    It's funny how "mature" stuff like this is generally anything but mature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicciograna View Post
    Proposed solution: sexy Drow matrons.
    Well, Mother's Corset is an actual 3.5 (drow) magic item, so...

    On the topic of immature attempts at mature topics, 3E has it's own share of those (BoVD, I'm mainly looking at you - you could wear a Nipple Clamp of Exquisite Pain with your Mother's Corset), but yeah, not on the same level or volume as BoEF.

    One positive I've heard on BoEF is it has a decent amount of information on gestation periods and similar for the standard races, which can be handy if a PC (or NPC) wants to start a family.

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    I like that there was an attempt at fleshing out some neat setting details like racial gestation period, courtship behavior, and relevant items such as alchemical prophylactics and aphrodisiacs. Beyond that though, the book was a miserable pile of unbalanced fail and the art was horrendous.
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    I remember the original Book of Unlawful Carnal Knowledge online back in ancient days when 1st/2ed was around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    <snip> and the art was horrendous.
    I can't pass up the opportunity to gripe about my experience - I (living in Australia) ordered a hard copy of BoEF from Amazon, and was using a shipping agent to get it to me (I did this for a while to get a bunch of gaming books, when 3E stuff was going relatively cheap, but hard to get locally).

    So the shipping agent refuses to ship it, saying it was "classified at pornography". In the end, I never got the book, and I couldn't get a refund from the seller because it wasn't their issue.

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    The "Netbook of Unlawful Carnal Knowledge", or "Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" as the 3e update is titled, is significantly better written than the Book of Erotic Fantasy, and has thr additional benefit of being free

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    I think player vs. DM on what's acceptable at the table is going to vary based on how you run. If you're doing pickup games you have to be a bit more willing to work with people.

    Personally I have a solid long term friend group I play with, and when I do occasionally look for another player, I'm specifically looking for people to mesh with that group. If you don't mesh, you can play at another table; I'm not going to change the way my friends and I have been playing for nearly a decade to suit the tastes of a new arrival. And bad news for any archanophobes, my house often has real spiders in it. It would be very funny if I tried to round them up to cross them off with big red Xs, though.

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    The "Netbook of Unlawful Carnal Knowledge", or "Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" as the 3e update is titled, is significantly better written than the Book of Erotic Fantasy, and has thr additional benefit of being free

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    This book is awful. I mean, it's funny sometimes, but one of the creatures is a construct explicitly built around a naked attractive young woman. And that's far from the stupidest thing in there. It's the kind of book you show people to "prove" that D&D players are sex pests.

    I actually don't think the BOEF is that bad. It's stupid sometimes for sure but I think some of the information was useful for setting implications, like reproduction rates and crossbreeding viability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanos View Post
    I think player vs. DM on what's acceptable at the table is going to vary based on how you run. If you're doing pickup games you have to be a bit more willing to work with people.
    I don't think it's that one approach or the other allows more or less DM control, it's that they're just different process. As you note, in a long running group, a new player needs to mesh with the group. But that includes the other players, not just the DM. You've arrived at a consensus, you've just done so (relatively) implicitly. Whereas when you're setting up a group, you have to establish that consensus explicitly, because you haven't spent the last ten years or however long talking over the issues and playing with one another until you all have a relatively similar perspective on the game.

    like reproduction rates and crossbreeding viability.
    Eh. To be honest with you, I would not be happy to have a Big Table of Fantasy Race Mixing in my game. I think there's an argument for talking about demographics in a D&D context, but you have to approach it very delicately, and even in that context I don't think you want to talk about sex particularly.

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    i wouldn't find reproduction rates and crossbreed tables useful for setting purposes.
    the first, I prefer to make up myself; judging from the other stuff i know about d&d, i surmise I can make reproduction rates more consistently if i make them myself when they are useful. as for crossbreed tables, i'd rather let the plot dictate them. not that i ever felt the need to, but, you know, if i want to make an halfbreed for some reason, i woulnd't let a table stop me
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Nowhere View Post
    i wouldn't find reproduction rates and crossbreed tables useful for setting purposes.
    the first, I prefer to make up myself; judging from the other stuff i know about d&d, i surmise I can make reproduction rates more consistently if i make them myself when they are useful. as for crossbreed tables, i'd rather let the plot dictate them. not that i ever felt the need to, but, you know, if i want to make an halfbreed for some reason, i woulnd't let a table stop me
    Hear hear. One of my characters (hobgoblin) had kids with a half-elf. Does it make sense? Nope. Did it fit the plot and desired send off for the character? Absolutely.

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    Absolutely agree that a DM coming up with crossbreeding viability and gestation/fertility rates and the like for his own game is fine.

    Me, I'm a little lazy, and having that summarized for me by someone else would be appreciated. If there's anything there I don't agree with or feel that doesn't reflect my campaign setting, I would ignore or modify it as I see fit.

    I mean, I wouldn't rush out and buy BoEF just for this info - when I did try to buy it, it was more that it was bundled in with a couple of other books, and also at that time I'd heard generally positive feedback about it.

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    I personally think having a common tool or starting point is more valuable than not having one. If I want an elf to knock up a hobgoblin at my table, or even just to think about what might happen if one did, of course I can do that regardless of what a book says on the subject. But for me, the value is less in knowing the book's point of view, and more in the community I might ask questions or source ideas from knowing what said book says. And despite being third-party, this book serves a specific enough niche that it does get cited for such questions.

    As far as the crossbreeding table itself, I don't think I'll ever use it in a game, but I do find the Dragon row being YES to everything amusing
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    As far as the crossbreeding table itself, I don't think I'll ever use it in a game, but I do find the Dragon row being YES to everything amusing
    Dragons just have really comprehensive sex education...

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    Hear hear. One of my characters (hobgoblin) had kids with a half-elf. Does it make sense? Nope. Did it fit the plot and desired send off for the character? Absolutely.
    Does it not make sense? Humanoids in D&D tend to be able to crossbreed pretty easily. I suspect the whole "race, subrace" thing is less in the sense of species, but more a "breed". Like various breeds of dogs can be interfertile even though they have vastly different sizes and physical abilities, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that any humanoid in D&D, who have roughly the same phenotype (always two arms, two legs and a head, 7 items slots, the vast majority doesn't vary by more than +2 or -2 to any stat, react the same way to certain spells....) would in fact be the same species.
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    Having used it in a recent game....

    I find a lot of it is silly and dumb, which is how I generally feel about most "D&D and sex" books.

    That said, parsing through the book as a DM-side tool and using bits and pieces where appropriate was extremely helpful in my games.
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    I remember that when I first saw that table, finally my group - composed by lovable dorks[1] and immature nerds - had the answer to the question that always plagued it since we started playing: "why there isn't a half dwarf-half elf?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicciograna View Post
    I remember that when I first saw that table, finally my group - composed by lovable dorks[1] and immature nerds - had the answer to the question that always plagued it since we started playing: "why there isn't a half dwarf-half elf?".

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    I do not include myself in this definition, I am not "lovable" in any way.
    The dwarf/elf hybrid is a human.
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    The dwarf/elf hybrid is a human.
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    Does it not make sense? Humanoids in D&D tend to be able to crossbreed pretty easily. I suspect the whole "race, subrace" thing is less in the sense of species, but more a "breed". Like various breeds of dogs can be interfertile even though they have vastly different sizes and physical abilities, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that any humanoid in D&D, who have roughly the same phenotype (always two arms, two legs and a head, 7 items slots, the vast majority doesn't vary by more than +2 or -2 to any stat, react the same way to certain spells....) would in fact be the same species.
    From my quite limited understanding, that reminds me a bit of how Skyrim/ES has Elves and Orcs implied to be offshoots or ancestors of Dwarves.

    In one of my old 1E/2E homebrew games, all (mammalian) humanoids and giants sprang from a common ancestor. It was a bit messier back then, since there wasn't types, as such. You just had to use some DM judgement to create creature categories. 1E had "giant class" creatures as an enemy for rangers, which included most evil humanoid races, and giants. That list included kobolds, from memory - but back then kobolds were generally fluffed as dog-like, and not reptilian.

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    From my quite limited understanding, that reminds me a bit of how Skyrim/ES has Elves and Orcs implied to be offshoots or ancestors of Dwarves.
    i mean theyre all elves. -mer means elf. Dunmer = dark elf. Dwemer = dwarf. Orismer = Orc. Its all elves all the way down.

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    That reminds me‚ does anybody know where the word "Dweomer" is coming from? As far as I understand‚ it describes primordial magic‚ or more precisely "magic that affects magic"‚ and is very linked to incarnations of Mystra‚ but I'm not sure of the etymology. What was the first time something was called "Dweomer" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beni-Kujaku View Post
    That reminds me‚ does anybody know where the word "Dweomer" is coming from? As far as I understand‚ it describes primordial magic‚ or more precisely "magic that affects magic"‚ and is very linked to incarnations of Mystra‚ but I'm not sure of the etymology. What was the first time something was called "Dweomer" ?
    Dweomer is an Old English word meaning "witchcraft" that derives from the Old Norse term dvergmál, literally meaning "dwarf talk" (dvergr dwarf + mál talk), referring to the secret knowledge of magic among the original Norse dwarves.

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    There's was a meme I saw in the last week that said dewormer - I actually misread it as dweomer.

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