OOTS #1243 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Guancyto]

Whaaaat? One of the Order of the Stick thinking on her feet?

Well, not on her feet on her feet...

[Shale]

Whaaaat? One of the Order of the Stick thinking on her feet?

Well, not on her feet on her feet...

On, and/or with, her feet.

[Teioh]

Good to see a Rogue carrying the team in a fight. Unusual for high levels, but no one better to take 'Mom' down a peg

[Matt620]

A lovely, clever twist that made use of Haley's skills. And of course, since Serini is talking to the beholder, tracking by sound negates the invisibility.

[UnintensifiedFa]

Okay not gonna lie, that was pretty awesome. Was getting worried that the order was starting to look a tad bit incompetent (especially after all they’ve done so far), but I guess they were just caught off guard.

[luagha]

+1 for Uncanny Dodgeball. I want to play!

[Ruck]

The fight had to turn eventually, but I certainly didn't see how. Very clever on Haley's part to turn Sunny's powers against them.

Also we get a little more window into how far Sunny is willing to go-- and anything that could kill a member of the Order is seemingly off the table.

[masonwheeler]

With V being a traditional high-Int wizard, and Roy being a non-traditional really smart fighter, it's all too easy to lose sight of just how smart Haley is, until something like this or #327 comes along and reminds you.

[Fyraltari]

So, can Sunny's telekinesis catch them both? Because if they are high enough for stone to shatter on impact...

[Coyote0715]

How many turns is that? What is everyone else doing?

[LtPowers]

The comic title scared me but the final panel made me cheer.

Also: Good thing speaking is a free action or this would have taken several rounds.


Powers &8^]

[Mastikator]

I think all in all a beholder's anti magic field would go a long way to level the playing field between Team Evil and Order of the Stick. All it takes now is to convince Serini to ally up and kill Xykon. Maybe then Redcloak will be forced to actually consider the deal (which works in his favor TBH, he gets everything he says he wants). Then the Dark One could also get his goal achieved the way he originally wanted it. The issue comes down to trust, trusting a side that has previously betrayed you.

[HeeJay]

I've always scoffed at people who call themselves "dog moms".

But a beholder mom - now that's cool!

[Liquor Box]

Also we get a little more window into how far Sunny is willing to go-- and anything that could kill a member of the Order is seemingly off the table.

Although Serini is clearly prepared to go further, and that is not off the table.

[KorvinStarmast]

Also we get a little more window into how far Sunny is willing to go-- and anything that could kill a member of the Order is seemingly off the table.

*We have glue at home* from Serini got me chortling. Sunny's Rules of Engagement appear to be "disable/capture, not kill" and he's doing a fine job of adhering to them. Props to Sunny.

With V being a traditional high-Int wizard, and Roy being a non-traditional really smart fighter, it's all too easy to lose sight of just how smart Haley is, until something like this or #327 comes along and reminds you.

Yeah. Haley being smart is a consistent theme.

Also: Good thing speaking is a free action or this would have taken several rounds.

True.

As to this strip: awesome high level rogue is awesome. Go Haley Go!
If you're gonna rogue, don't take half measures: rogue out!

1. Keep talking, Mom (delivered sotto voce)
2. Grab high bar bow and swing acrobatically.
3. Boots to the head delivered to Serini.

Score: (which takes into account degree of difficulty)

9.9 From the Swedish judge
9.8 from the Russian judge.
10.0 from the Brazilian judge.

[Gwynfrid]

Although Serini is clearly prepared to go further, and that is not off the table.

Good point. Interesting to see that the beholder not only is the sidekick in this team, but he's the gentler one.

Also - awesome, awesome comic with superb creative thinking on Haley's (and the author's) part.

[hamishspence]

Haley's awesomeness is really on show here.

[Crusher]

Kick some ass, Haley!

I have a feeling Serini isn't out of tricks yet, though.

[Beni-Kujaku]

I think all in all a beholder's anti magic field would go a long way to level the playing field between Team Evil and Order of the Stick. All it takes now is to convince Serini to ally up and kill Xykon. Maybe then Redcloak will be forced to actually consider the deal (which works in his favor TBH, he gets everything he says he wants). Then the Dark One could also get his goal achieved the way he originally wanted it. The issue comes down to trust, trusting a side that has previously betrayed you.

Epic spells can bypass antimagic‚ so Superb Dispelling might be able to just disable Sunny's eye (the printed Superb Dispelling can't do that‚ but you never know with epic spells). And even without that‚ if TE isn't trapped in a room where the eye can cover everything‚ Xykon could just step out of the field and Blackfire the hell out of Sunny. He won't survive for long‚ and there's no troll blood available in a fight.

[El Dorado]

Very cool to see a high level rogue do their thing.

[Ninja Dragon]

What I was expecting: the Order use their turns to undo all the status effects then hopefully pass their saves next round and then begin the comeback.

What I was not expecting: Haley solos the encounter.

[Liquor Box]

With V being a traditional high-Int wizard, and Roy being a non-traditional really smart fighter, it's all too easy to lose sight of just how smart Haley is, until something like this or #327 comes along and reminds you.

The definitive guide to character inteeligence:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0031.html

[Peelee]

Serini off the eye tyrant is gonna be a gamechanger, I'd wager.

[pearl jam]

So, can Sunny's telekinesis catch them both? Because if they are high enough for stone to shatter on impact...

I think this is likely a case where D&D falling/hit point rules make them less vulnerable than rocks to falling up to a point somewhere between the height they are at in the cave and however high Roy was when he fell off the dragon.

[Ruck]

Although Serini is clearly prepared to go further, and that is not off the table.

I think she's probably going to find that much more difficult outnumbered from ground level than she would have riding an Eye Tyrant in the air.

[Liquor Box]

Very cool to see a high level rogue do their thing.

Two high level rogues

[Peelee]

So, can Sunny's telekinesis catch them both? Because if they are high enough for stone to shatter on impact...

They'll live. High level characters are tougher than stone.

I think this is likely a case where D&D falling/hit point rules make them less vulnerable than rocks to falling up to a point somewhere between the height they are at in the cave and however high Roy was when he fell off the dragon.

Roy had just eaten a meteor swarm as well.

[ShadowSandbag]

So, can Sunny's telekinesis catch them both? Because if they are high enough for stone to shatter on impact...

Haley should be able to get the Fly spell back up from the wand now that she's outside of the Anti-Magic Field.
Besides, not like fall damage has ever really hurt someone.

[Peelee]

Besides, not like fall damage has ever really hurt someone.

Haley has not been Meteor Swarm'd in the face.