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    Default Do tiefling horns have skin?

    This question came up in my D&D group a week or two ago. The party’s firbolg barbarian was asking the satyr druid and tiefling warlock (my character) how we took care of our horns.
    The satyr replied that he buffed and polished his, and the tiefling explained that she has to keep hers moisturized, since they’re covered in skin.

    This came as a surprise to the rest of the group (both IC and OOC), but it makes sense to me- in most illustrations I’ve seen of tieflings, the horns come directly out of the forehead and are the same color/texture as the rest of the skin, which I assumed meant the horns were covered by a layer of skin.

    Has anyone else given any thought to this? I’m curious to hear other people’s opinions!

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    I guess that should come down to each player's choice. If I were to play a tiefling my horns would be external bony protrusions, but I feel there's a lot of freedom here.
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    Tieflings are incredibly varied (one AD&D book had a two-page random table for how they looked). Many dont' even have horns. As a DM, I'd say that's the kind of small thing I'd absolutely leave up to the player to decide. I mean, it has no rules impact whatsoever.
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    In the real world, cattle, sheep, and antelope have "true" horns with a bony core sheathed in keratin, the same substance that makes hair and fingernails. Rhinoceroses have horns that are entirely keratin. Deer antlers grow as bone sheathed in skin. When the antler is mature, the skin peels off, leaving dead bone. Later the antler is shed. Giraffes have "ossicones", with skin over a bony core, and never shed.

    It sounds like the tiefling warlock had ossicones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Tieflings are incredibly varied (one AD&D book had a two-page random table for how they looked). Many dont' even have horns. As a DM, I'd say that's the kind of small thing I'd absolutely leave up to the player to decide. I mean, it has no rules impact whatsoever.
    I totally agree here, as long as it doesn't matter, it's up to the player to decide. The only time something has to match is for instance in PF2 where you can take a tiefling feat that gives you an extra attack form. The body part needed for that attack, be it hooves, a tail, claws of big teeth, you have to have of course. And even then I would allow you to customize how you see fit (there are many forms of hooves and tails for instance).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidSh View Post
    In the real world, cattle, sheep, and antelope have "true" horns with a bony core sheathed in keratin,....
    I have always thought of the tiefling horns to be this way, but not because they have to be but rather because it has never come up and thus I have never thought beyond my core basic mental image.

    As a GM, I would not mandate a type and leave it to the player as others have said. It feels like one of those fun facts about a character, like hair style for example, that is fun t know but should be a player call.
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    Tiefling horns tends to look like goat horns, so they should have as much skin as goat horns
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    I'd say that most tiefling horns tend to be based on some real world horn or other (for example, the tiefling in my current game has springbok horns, as it fits her character).

    It's kind of an odd one, since tieflings started off with random traits, but got a more specific appearance in art as time's gone on (and a lot of people ignore that; when was the last time you heard of a tiefling who was restricted to red skin?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisectedBrioche View Post
    It's kind of an odd one, since tieflings started off with random traits, but got a more specific appearance in art as time's gone on (and a lot of people ignore that; when was the last time you heard of a tiefling who was restricted to red skin?).
    I have always thought they would have traits reflective of their parents. I do not see them as all the same but then I do not see fiends as all the same nor humans as all the same either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisectedBrioche View Post
    It's kind of an odd one, since tieflings started off with random traits, but got a more specific appearance in art as time's gone on (and a lot of people ignore that; when was the last time you heard of a tiefling who was restricted to red skin?).
    Most Tieflings I see, which isn't many.

    As for Tiefling horns, I'd personal assume they're all keratin, although I'd also understand people going for 'true' horns. Earlier editions I believe tended towards true horns, them looking like they might be covered in skin is relatively recent (I believe 4e, although it might be 5e).
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    Not so sure about older editions... there's like a half dozen named Tieflings in Planescape that also have illustrations, I don't think any of them even have horns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Not so sure about older editions... there's like a half dozen named Tieflings in Planescape that also have illustrations, I don't think any of them even have horns.
    That's honestly how I prefer my tieflings. Same thing with Fire Genasi not burning, Aasimars not having physical wings or a halo or Dhampirs not being fully blown vampires.

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    This might be a Tiefling with horns in the crowd scene:

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    Other than that, flipping through the books, there's a lot of digitigrade legs with hooves, a few tails, but no horns. Pointy ears on everyone, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymouswizard View Post
    Most Tieflings I see, which isn't many.
    I meant the tieflings players create. Obviously I only have anecdotal evidence for the games I've played, but as far as APs go, I can only think of OXventure (and the fact that the OX crew were new to D&D at first was the point).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisectedBrioche View Post
    I meant the tieflings players create. Obviously I only have anecdotal evidence for the games I've played, but as far as APs go, I can only think of OXventure (and the fact that the OX crew were new to D&D at first was the point).
    Most Tieflings I see, which isn't many (because I prefer to pay other systems).
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    ...could Twi'leks be a potential evolutionary future of Tieflings whose lekku are actually skin horns...?
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    The idea of horns covered in skin evokes such a primal disgusted reaction from me. If it has skin, it probably has nerve endings, and that really creeps me out.

    The original idea came from goat horns, but I'm fine with leaving it up to each player. I just don't understand why you would want that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonehead View Post
    The idea of horns covered in skin evokes such a primal disgusted reaction from me. If it has skin, it probably has nerve endings, and that really creeps me out.
    Just curious, does the idea of deer antlers creep you out too or is it just the idea on a humanoid that does it?
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    Yeah, if that creeps you out, never research deer antlers online. Especially not what they do with them in spring and autumn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dafrca View Post
    Just curious, does the idea of deer antlers creep you out too or is it just the idea on a humanoid that does it?
    Antlers didn't freak me out, until I read this thread and learned that they're covered in skin.

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