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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Can it be any worse than its predecessor?
    I actually saw that one back in college. I'll at least give Hoskins full marks for doing his best given what he had to work with, and casting Dennis Hopper as King Koopa (as he was known at the time) was a special germ of either madness or genius. The movie would be entertainingly bad if it wasn't so dreary.

    If anyone is curious, Rifftrax did a fairly good run at the film some years back, and that's the way I'd recommend watching it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Can it be any worse than its predecessor?

    (Full disclosure - I've not seen the film in full, but the little I have seen and the lot I have heard is distinctly underwhelming)
    That movie is really fun, for it is pure camp. If you are not used to camp find a friend group who allow themselves to giggle and mock anything they think is silly, while still embracing the silliness.
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    This definitely seems like stunt casting, but some of those big names do have VA experience at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Flumph View Post
    I'm a little surprised that people were expecting 90+ minutes of Martinet's wildly over the top faux-Italian accent to be honest. It works in short bursts and exclamations, but as a full movies worth of dialogue? That would be more grating than anything Pratt could manage.
    We have a recent example of Martinet doing an extended reading in one of his character voices, and yeah this is pretty much what I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Flumph View Post
    I'm a little surprised that people were expecting 90+ minutes of Martinet's wildly over the top faux-Italian accent to be honest. It works in short bursts and exclamations, but as a full movies worth of dialogue? That would be more grating than anything Pratt could manage.
    The voice can be adapted and modulated to work in longform. Martinet has a pretty good vocal range actually, on the now-rare occasions he plays someone other than a Mario character.

    But it's less "get Charles Martinet specifically" and more "get someone with a distinctive voice and real voice acting experience".

    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Can it be any worse than its predecessor?

    (Full disclosure - I've not seen the film in full, but the little I have seen and the lot I have heard is distinctly underwhelming)
    This movie is hilarious and highly worth a watch. Terrible, but great.

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    I think a problem with casting Mario is that he doesn't have an established verbal personality.

    Mario is pretty much a silent protagonist with a few limited contextual barks. He doesn't get lines even in the RPG games. That means there isn't really a natural pick for a Mario who speaks. There's no personality or verbal style to match him to.

    So I guess they're going for "generic enthusiasm" which is what Worst Chris provided in The Lego Movie.

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    Isn't there an old Mario cartoon? Presumably, there's a basis for him having a personality there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Isn't there an old Mario cartoon? Presumably, there's a basis for him having a personality there.
    Yes, the Super Mario Bros. Super Show (except on Fridays, when The Legend of Zelda replaced it), which also featured live-action scenes bookending the show and around commercial breaks. Mario was portrayed by Captain Lou Albano, who chose to own the show and maintained an actual thick handlebar mustache for it (this necessitated shaving his signature look). Captain Lou and Danny Wells (Luigi), along with the writers, delivered an absolutely top notch personality set for the Mario Bros.

    SMBSS is an unassailable high point in video gaming put to film. LoZ and Captain N: The Game Master were valient attempts but both fell short somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Isn't there an old Mario cartoon? Presumably, there's a basis for him having a personality there.
    Yes.

    Different seasons were based on different games. My experience with it was a DVD from a cereal box that had a single episode.

    King Koopa decided to take over Giant Land by using one of his magic wands to turn four of the Koopalings into "Sneaky Lying Cheating Giant Ninja Koopas" and at the end he's about to turn Mario into something or other only to find out that Mario switched the wands around so instead of cursing Mario he transforms him into "Good Truthful Honest Giant Ninja Mario" which is a power-up that's never been in a Mario Game but should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Isn't there an old Mario cartoon? Presumably, there's a basis for him having a personality there.
    Yep and the full episodes are all on YouTube.

    Let me share the opening. Note there is a minute opening, a 30 second mid show opening used to transition to the cartoon, and a 50 second closing. Such “joyous” music. So much personality!



    [Plumber Rap Part 1: Show Opening, mix of cartoon and live action]

    We're the Mario Brothers, and plumbing's our game
    We're not like the others who get all the fame
    If your sink is in trouble, you can call us on the double
    We're faster than the others, you'll be hooked on the Brothers, uh!

    H-hooked on the brothers
    Gimme gimme, gimme gimme!

    Yo, you're in for a treat, so hang on to your seat
    Get ready for adventure and remarkable feats
    You'll meet Koopa, the Troopas, the Princess, and the others
    Hangin' with the plumbers, you'll be hooked on the brothers!
    To the bridge!

    Uh, uh!

    I said-a h-h-h-h-hooked on the brothers!
    The brothers!
    The brothers!

    [Plumber Rap Part 2: Cartoon Opening, mid episode]

    It's the Mario Brothers and plumbing's their game
    Found the secret warp zone while working on the drain
    Lend the princess a hand in the mushroom land
    Join the action with the plumbers, you'll be hooked on the brothers!

    Now...
    Evil Koopa and his Troopas are up to misbehavin'
    They kidnapped the princess, Mushroom Land needs savin'
    Abusin' and confusin', everybody discovers
    They can't help but be hooked on the brothers, uh!

    [Closing]

    Do the Mario!
    Swing your arms from side to side
    Come on, it's time to go!
    Do the Mario!
    Take one step, and then again
    Let's do the Mario, all together now!
    You got it!
    It's the Mario!
    Come on now, just like this!
    Zap to the right and jump,
    Zap to the left and jump,
    Zap to the front and jump,
    All turn around and jump.
    Again!
    Do the Mario!
    Swing your arms from side to side
    Come on, it's time to go!
    Do the Mario!
    Take one step, and then again
    Let's do the Mario, all together now!
    You got it!
    It's the Mario!
    Come on now, it's just like that!
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    I couldn't write down the lyrics but once the song started I could still remember it all perfectly.

    TO THE BRIDGE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaOldeWolf View Post
    Those are some pretty bizarre choices. Its like they were picked because they are famous actors rather than they being perfect for the role.
    Considering that when Hollywood does movie musicals, they almost always cast at least some actors who can't sing in singing roles despite an abudnance of triple-threat stage actors who they could cast, this observation doesn't surprise me.

    I think the most interesting aspect of the cast list is the confirmation that Cranky will be in it. I would have hoped that Richard Yearwood
    could voice Cranky, as an older actor who used to voice DK. But I guess they had to go with a celebrity.
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