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    Default Most feared encounter?

    I don't mean stuff that's just extremely powerful, e.g. Tarrasque or Ancient Dragon and such, but something that seems fairly run-of-the-mill and a fair fight at first glance, but turns out to be outstandingly tedious to fight, hard to kill, costly to kill, or all of the above, or just memorable.
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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    Rust Monster, or anything else that routinely destroys equipment.
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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    A cornered mage...Nothing that particulary dangerous at first sight, until you find out he had only one spell prepared...

    Mage's Disjunction.
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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    There was an old D&D adage that goes a bit like this.

    Threaten a player's life and they say their characters are afraid. Target their equipment and the PLAYERS are afraid.


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    Badgers!!!

    Edit: Seriously, TPK by badger is a thing to fear for low level players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paragon Badger View Post
    Badgers!!!
    I'm more afraid of snakes personally. And mushrooms.
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    Monstrous Crab.

    Oh, he doesn't look too hard... until he charges in from 80 feet away, kills someone, and then drags them off to be eaten and digested, far from succor and Resurrection spells.
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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    Anything with perma-death abilities. E.g. Barghest, Devourer and similar monsters.


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    Kobolds w/ adequate prep time.
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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    One necromancer and three wights, who teleported into a major urban trade centre before the PCs could get there. Think about it.
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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    I'm with douglas, anything that destroys equipment.

    Another common one, anything that deals repeated ability damage or drain, especially shadows. Effing shadows. Especially a horde of shadows. 16 shadows is an EL 11 encounter, but that's TPK city for anyone NEAR level 11.

    Edit: Unless you turn undead. May your DM have mercy on you if your cleric player took one of the many full casting PrCs that don't advance turn undead progression.
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    16 shadows is an EL 11 encounter, but that's TPK city for anyone NEAR level 11.
    Undeath to death, repulsion, command undead (chained), incorporeal nova, transdimensional fireball, chain missiles, orb of force.

    Or, the good ole turn undead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deadseashoals View Post
    I'm with douglas, anything that destroys equipment.

    Another common one, anything that deals repeated ability damage or drain, especially shadows. Effing shadows. Especially a horde of shadows. 16 shadows is an EL 11 encounter, but that's TPK city for anyone NEAR level 11.

    Edit: Unless you turn undead. May your DM have mercy on you if your cleric player took one of the many full casting PrCs that don't advance turn undead progression.
    Presumably a bunch of giant poisonous spiders would qualify as well? Provided that there is no poison immunity available.
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    Kobolds w/ adequate prep time.
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    I'd have to say an ethereal filcher in that most of the encounters with them tend to start with "Hey, where did my (insert best magical item here) go? I swore I had it with me when I fell asleep."

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    Default Re: Most feared encounter?

    Anything with an insta-kill ability (Bodak for example). Nothing is more terrifying than an enemy that places you at the mercy of the dice.
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    yeah I gota go with the encounters that will sooner or later make me roll a will save. The Will save spells and abilities are the nastiest. That and level drain and the like. Its not just losing that finaly acheaved level but doing the book work in rolling the character back.

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    I've had some trouble with using Orcs as encounters with 1st level characters.

    They deal an average of 9 points of damage in one hit and they have a 15% chance to deal a critical. Anyone with a d4 or d6 hit die is looking at suicide coming anywhere within 60ft of them without a meatshield interposing himself in the middle. Even a d12 hit die class is going to be wrecked for the day after 1 average hit.

    Cuthbert help you if you don't have a healer, especially if its a CR appropriate encounter (2 orcs).

    Just think if they didn't have Alertness as their feat...what if they had something USEFUL?

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    Rust Monster and Disenchanter...the item destroyers...


    another of my most feared monsters is the galatinous cube, if the DM is a good enough story-teller (we were in a 20'-by-20' room with locked doors with this thing)
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    The scariest encounter our group has had so far was being trapped in a room with a green dragon that was filling up with water at several inches per round.

    It was terrifying for my rogue, as we had just come out of an encounter with some Dire Weasels and my Constitution was down about 8 points, so I couldn't spend much time underwater.

    The dragon, who can breathe water and swim easily, almost killed half the party before I found a lever to drain the water and the DM did some Deus Ex Machina to ensure the Dragon didn't kill us all.

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    poison, ability damage or level drain. worst if you have a low dumb stat in the ability that gets drained
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    A Half-Dragon Minotaur Fighter/Barbarian with Power Attack, Leap Attack, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, GWF, GWS, and a +5 Keen Flaming Burst Vorpal Falchion. His name's Harold the Destroyer.
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    Wraith: CON Damage, Incorporeal, Touch Attack, Gains HP on a successful attack and Life Sense. They also have great speed and a good Initiative score.

    But for sneaky dangerous, anything with rend tends to be more deadly than it first appears.
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    Stupid swarms when you have one that can AOE

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    Swarms? Seconded.



    ...My group's chronically unprepared for them.
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    living spells of the dispelling variety
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkantra View Post
    One necromancer and three wights, who teleported into a major urban trade centre before the PCs could get there. Think about it.
    Pyramid magazine had an article about a similar theme. The idea that a wight is smart, quite, mobile, and reproduces by killing. Then they detail the epidemic, starting with the lonely funeral at dusk, to most of the town being converted before dawn.

    Kind of like Night of the Liveing Dead, or 28 Days Later. Only not optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doresain View Post
    living spells of the dispelling variety
    A mob of Living Disjuctions, Greater Dispel Magic, and Shatter (if those work) would be hell on a PCs equipment.

    Personally, a low-level battle with a Warlock who spams Baleful Utterance is also very, very annoying due to the equipment destroyed (thus being feared).
    The best way, for me, to instill fear into a PC is to utter the phrase, "You have been dominated." The player who is dominated groans, as they technically cannot make a new character, but moreso because the rest of the party now has a justifiable reason to kill him and take his loot. Some of my friends have issues.

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    Howlers.

    They are CR 3, are fast, endlessly annoying, have many attacks and have the consecutive quill penatly thing.

    Really, unless you have a Crusader that does 30 damage with a Mountain Hammer or a 4th level druid with a fleshraker, you are going to have one HECK of a headache killing a small group of these.

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    A mephit with PC levels. You have no idea how scary it is to fight one with Monk levels and a breath weapon once 1d4 rounds at level 3. Nothing but the magic missiles by our sorceror hit it.

    Jeah, we got our asses kicked.

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