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    There are never enough elves...at least according to WotC. Partial blue intentional.
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    I know they just introduced the rabbit folk but if I'm not mistaken one of the big things about Thri-kreen is their ability to jump really well and that's just absent here. Seems off.

    Edit: also I can't believe they're doing auto-gnomes. But that does indicate moving in a more open direction with regards to creature type. I wonder if they're going to change warforged.
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    So the Giff are old-timey British military who love guns and explosions, and they get a feature for....melee damage??
    Yeah… I think it would be more unique and thematic to make the damage reroll apply to a ranged attack instead of a melee attack.

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    Yeah… I think it would be more unique and thematic to make the damage reroll apply to a ranged attack instead of a melee attack.
    Ar that point, let them reroll a 1 on any damage roll, just to add in explosions too. Its barely even that good of a feature to start with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EggKookoo View Post
    Edit: I noticed the Small creatures have a 30' speed. I expect this to get transplanted over to existing races as well. I approve less.
    There have been Small races with 30' speed since Volos was released in 2016 (Goblin/Kobold).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueJK View Post
    There have been Small races with 30' speed since Volos (Goblin/Kobold).
    Yeah, and I know I'm not a fan of that. Why make Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes slower for legacy then completely ignore it for other small races? Heck, dwarves are medium!
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    I am 110% behind a playable Ooze race. I don't care if it's useless or not- lemme at it! I will have a Healslime or die trying.
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    Very glad that the giff aren't described as anthropomorphic hippos but as folk with hippo-like features. I really like the giff from the Spelljammer novels (Herphan Gomja), and there they were never described as straight up hippofolk. In fact, the cover art for Beyond the Moons features Gomja in the background and I much prefer that look than the ridiculous monocle-clad hippofolk seen in other art.

    As for the rest, meh. Very uninspired features as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warder View Post
    Very glad that the giff aren't described as anthropomorphic hippos but as folk with hippo-like features. I really like the giff from the Spelljammer novels (Herphan Gomja), and there they were never described as straight up hippofolk. In fact, the cover art for Beyond the Moons features Gomja in the background and I much prefer that look than the ridiculous monocle-clad hippofolk seen in other art.
    Have you seen their art in the Mordenkainen's?

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    Have you seen their art in the Mordenkainen's?
    I have. :(

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    Do hadozee have a glide dash of sorts? Can't they just jump 5ft in the air and then glide 25 ft? If so, that seems pretty strong

    Comboing this with the jump spell, and a high strength character could jump 30ft into the air then glide 150 feet. All with just the move action
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    The fact that the tagline for Giff describes them as creatures of impressive size and they get stuck with the new copy-paste size nonsense that all other races do highlights the problem with this change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HX2GPX View Post
    Do hadozee have a glide dash of sorts? Can't they just jump 5ft in the air and then glide 25 ft? If so, that seems pretty strong
    Not very different from one option the Simic Hybrid gets in one of the MtG setting books.
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    Can't WotC think of another ability name besides Radiant Soul? This is the third completely different ability with that name!

    Not to mention that Astral Elves are some definite powercreep.

    I'd drop autognomes and plasmoids down to 25 foot speed because it just makes more sense. Both are a bit strong but not offensively so, unlike the the Thri-Kreen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidgit View Post
    Can't WotC think of another ability name besides Radiant Soul? This is the third completely different ability with that name!

    Not to mention that Astral Elves are some definite powercreep.

    I'd drop autognomes and plasmoids down to 25 foot speed because it just makes more sense. Both are a bit strong but not offensively so, unlike the the Thri-Kreen.
    Ironically, if you have Radiant Soul from this racial ability you don't get either of the other two, even if you should get it as a class ability
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    Ironically, if you have Radiant Soul from this racial ability you don't get either of the other two, even if you should get it as a class ability
    Why not? Is this some core rules interaction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dork_Forge View Post
    The fact that the tagline for Giff describes them as creatures of impressive size and they get stuck with the new copy-paste size nonsense that all other races do highlights the problem with this change.
    They are the only race to get "You are Medium" instead of "You are Medium or Small".

    Edit: Actually, astral elves are also Medium only, and autognomes are Small only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dork_Forge View Post
    Why not? Is this some core rules interaction?
    Yup, it's in the core rules that when you have 2 features with the same name, you only get the abilities of the first one.

    The most common examples are Channel Divinities from a Paladin/Cleric or the Unarmored Defense from a Barbarian/Rogue
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    Yup, it's in the core rules that when you have 2 features with the same name, you only get the abilities of the first one.

    The most common examples are Channel Divinities from a Paladin/Cleric or the Unarmored Defense from a Barbarian/Rogue
    That. Is. Hilarious.

    WOTC should really change the name then lol.
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    They are the only race to get "You are Medium" instead of "You are Medium or Small".

    Edit: Actually, astral elves are also Medium only, and autognomes are Small only.
    The Astral Elves also get "Medium only", which bodes well for the other PHB and previously published races (species) not being affected by this new ruling.

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    Elves, the cockroaches of the multiverse.
    So what does that make green dragons, who deem elves a delicacy?
    If all rules are suggestions what happens when I pass the save?

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    So what does that make green dragons, who deem elves a delicacy?
    Cats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralanr View Post
    That. Is. Hilarious.

    WOTC should really change the name then lol.
    Ya probably.

    I see it in level 6 Celestial Warlock, Astral Elf, and Protector Aasimar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xervous View Post
    So what does that make green dragons, who deem elves a delicacy?
    In some cultures, insects are a delicacy. You're just too uncivilized to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    Yup, it's in the core rules that when you have 2 features with the same name, you only get the abilities of the first one.

    The most common examples are Channel Divinities from a Paladin/Cleric or the Unarmored Defense from a Barbarian/Rogue

    Where is that in the Core Rules?

    There's a rule that says magical effects with the same name don't stack (like from multiple castings of the same spell, or multiple magic items).

    And there's a section under Multiclassing that states specific rules for Channel Divinity uses per day and Unarmored Defense in particular not being gained multiple times. (Along with Extra Attack.)

    But I'm not seeing a blanket statement that says you can't have two features with the same name, period. (Especially since we're talking about a Racial feature and a Class feature.)


    If that were a rule, a character who gets the Spellcasting feature from one class, and then multiclasses into another spellcasting class, wouldn't get the Spellcasting feature from their second class.
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    They are the only race to get "You are Medium" instead of "You are Medium or Small".

    Edit: Actually, astral elves are also Medium only, and autognomes are Small only.
    I was referring to the text that states they fall into the same height and weight range as humans.

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    Yup, it's in the core rules that when you have 2 features with the same name, you only get the abilities of the first one.

    The most common examples are Channel Divinities from a Paladin/Cleric or the Unarmored Defense from a Barbarian/Rogue
    I don't think that's accurate, if that were true then a Halfling could never take the Lucky feat. I think what you're thinking of is that a creature cannot benefit from two things with the same proper name at the same time. But that wouldn't happen here, if you're down, you don't care about resistance to radiant or bonuses to damage and if you're up you don't care about anything to do with a Death Save.

    I can also only find one other example of that name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueJK View Post
    Where is that in the Core Rules?

    There's a rule that says magical effects with the same name don't stack (like from multiple castings of the same spell, or multiple magic items).

    And there's a section under Multiclassing that states specific rules for Channel Divinity uses per day and Unarmored Defense in particular not being gained multiple times. (Along with Extra Attack.)

    But I'm not seeing a blanket statement that says you can't have two features with the same name, period.


    If that were a rule, a character who gets the Spellcasting feature from one class, and then multiclasses into another spellcasting class, wouldn't get the Spellcasting feature from their second class.
    Huh, maybe I conflated the magical effect with the specific rules for Channel Divinity, Unarmored Defense, and Extra attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dork_Forge View Post
    I was referring to the text that states they fall into the same height and weight range as humans.
    Yes, sorry, I think I had a brain fart there.

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    I can also only find one other example of that name.
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