OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Lord Raziere]

ah yes "please".....the most subtle of tricks....

[Kranerian]

Elan vs. Sunny, a battle of wits for the ages.

[Psyren]

Really... hoping.... V.... isn't.... slowed.... again.

[Ivrytwr]

Wonder what our back-up dwarf is doing?
Politeness fell a little short Elan!
Thanks Giant!

[danielxcutter]

So, I'm guessing V got zapped with either Confusion or Charm Monster(and is going to spend a few rounds trying to kill Haley and Belkar) or Slow(and be completely useless in the chase).

I know this is because we're waiting weeks for an update, but boy do I want the Order to actually score a win here.

[Ruck]

Well, I guess Elan's charisma didn't work this time, but hey, it was worth a shot. (Maybe he'll still talk Sunny into helping the Order.)

I don't remember if people knew for sure what number eight does, but I mostly bring it up because The Simpsons has ruined my brain, and you know what I'm talking about if you were thinking about what I was thinking about when I read "number eight."

[WindStruck]

Finally! A worthy opponent!

Our battle will be legendary!

[link3710]

Good, the Sunny Elan friendship we all need is about to blossom.

[lukeskylicker]

So is Elan just being himself and politely asking to go around Sunny? Or is it tactical and he's keeping the anti-magic field out of the hole?

[Duncun]

Well, I guess Elan's charisma didn't work this time, but hey, it was worth a shot. (Maybe he'll still talk Sunny into helping the Order.)

I don't remember if people knew for sure what number eight does, but I mostly bring it up because The Simpsons has ruined my brain, and you know what I'm talking about if you were thinking about what I was thinking about when I read "number eight."

My guess is disintegrate.

[RMS Oceanic]

Elan was not trying to bluff or anything, he was just being polite. You can't change my mind.

[NobleCuriosity]

So is Elan just being himself and politely asking to go around Sunny? Or is it tactical and he's keeping the anti-magic field out of the hole?

Possibly both? After all, I imagine it wouldn’t be good for bloodfeast to get restored to max size right now.

Also, Sunny is adorable.

[Peelee]

To know Sunny is to love Sunny.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Aw, cute!

[Argis13]

So, V got hit by the eye directly to the right of the central eye. If it's consistent with the eye layout in 1241, that should be the eye that Minrah got hit with, the sleep beam.

[Ornithologist]

I'm pretty much all in for more Sunny and Elan time. Also, its likely the best place for Elan to spend his combat time.

[Psyren]

So, I'm guessing V got zapped with either Confusion or Charm Monster(and is going to spend a few rounds trying to kill Haley and Belkar) or Slow(and be completely useless in the chase).

No swirly eyes so I don't think it's those.

Slow wouldn't make them useless necessarily. Fly + Slow = regular movement speed, and it looks like Haley is carrying them anyway.

Sleep would just require a slap from Haley.

[kingcheesepants]

Elan being able to talk to Sunny without interference. This is an extremely promising development and I'm guessing it will be what finally turns things around for our heroes. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.

[Dion]

Pew pew pew!

[Rogan]

Sunny continues to be adorable.

I'm a bit confused about his tactic. He managed to hit V with a small eye, putting a spell on her. But the next move is looking with the big anti magic eye. Wouldn't he suppress his own effect this way?

I'm going to take a guess here:
Elan won't follow the chase and instead stay back to talk to sunny. When Haley, V and Belkar get back (with or without Sereni as prisoner), sunny will be friendly to the order.

[Gwynfrid]

The most lovable beholder ever. Great comic, thanks Giant!

[Dion]

Can I just say that following a rogue halfling with dimension door into a dark hole is an extraordinarily bad idea?

[NobleCuriosity]

Can I just say that following a rogue halfling with dimension door into a dark hole is an extraordinarily bad idea?

I mean, letting her go to spring another ambush on them later isn’t the best idea either. Also, the Order doesn’t know Serini has dimension door.

[Psyren]

I'm a bit confused about his tactic. He managed to hit V with a small eye, putting a spell on her. But the next move is looking with the big anti magic eye. Wouldn't he suppress his own effect this way?

Yes but the cone also has a maximum range. He might have been trying to keep Haley from, say, activating her boots as long as possible.

I'm going to take a guess here:
Elan won't follow the chase and instead stay back to talk to sunny. When Haley, V and Belkar get back (with or without Sereni as prisoner), sunny will be friendly to the order.

This seems likely yeah.

[KorvinStarmast]

So is Elan just being himself and politely asking to go around Sunny? Or is it tactical and he's keeping the anti-magic field out of the hole?

Perhaps the answer is "both" in this case, given the ingratiating grin in the final panel. Elan is also, perhaps, being subtle in a tactical sense. The anti magic ray is no longer pointed toward V, but toward him, and V is in pursuit of Serini. This opens up V's magic for capturing Serini.

To know Sunny is to love Sunny.

Now on sale for Christmas 2021, the Sunny plushie doll/stuffed animal. (One can only hope)

So, V got hit by the eye directly to the right of the central eye. If it's consistent with the eye layout in 1241, that should be the eye that Minrah got hit with, the sleep beam.

If you are right, and I'll drop a quataloo on you being right, elves are immune to magical sleep so it should have no effect on V.

Points to enjoy:
1. Haley is thinking ahead. (Sees that there must be an escape plan).
2. Hole-in-the-wall gang is now V, Haley, and Belkar.

Spoiler: Obscure movie reference

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(Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, the RL Hole in the Wall gang).

3. Non-lethal use of disintegrate (I appreciate innovative uses of spells).
4. Panel 9: aaww, sweet Sunny moment.
5. The cliff hanger: now that Sunny has turned his anti-magic eye back on, what magical effect across the room, off screen, is going to be dispelled? Will Durkon turn back to flesh? (Not sure how that might work in 3.5e).

[danielxcutter]

Frankly, if Serini gets away I don’t see how the plot would move forwards - if Rich does have that planned out I assume it’ll all work out, but taking out Xykon and convincing Redcloak while worrying about Serini’s epic ambush BS is a tall order for parties infinitely more optimized than, well, the Order.

Betting Haley might get some mileage out of those boots; Serini should only have a 20 ft. movement speed and Haley with Haste has three times that.

[Quebbster]

Nice to see what number eight was already.
(Disappointed it wasn't a single plum floating in perfume in a man's hat though).

[Psyren]

Now on sale for Christmas 2021, the Sunny plushie doll/stuffed animal. (One can only hope)

Given what Sunny is, I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

If you are right, and I'll drop a quataloo on you being right, elves are immune to magical sleep so it should have no effect on V.

*slaps forehead*

I keep forgetting that! That would be excellent.

[Frozenstep]

A perfect chance for Elan to talk Sunny down. Even if Serini gets away, this might be all the order needs.