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2021-10-14, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-14, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
I think you're right. Serini probably hit Roy with the same poison that she used against O-chul and Lien, given that he's the same sort of target, and based on her comments after the pair woke up, it might not be a poison that does ability damage, instead just knocking them out and keeping them knocked out for a while. Obviously it'd be something stronger than the poisons listed on this chart, at least in terms of Save DC, but something like Drow Poison listed there would be sensible for Serini to have been using.
I mean, Roy might need a smack in the face to wake him up after the poison keeping him asleep is removed, but that'd be it if its the same stuff that hit V.
EDIT: I think you're looking at the wrong battle. First panel in 1244 shows Elan Neutralizing Poison on V, who is asleep from one of Serini's induced poisons.Last edited by Wraithfighter; 2021-10-14 at 06:06 PM.
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2021-10-14, 06:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-14, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2021-10-14, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
Calling it : Elan will seduce Sunny using his bardly wiles.
He's done it before .
It's his solemn duty to seduce female bad guys.
I don't know what Sunny identifies as - male, female, or other. But where is it written that a bard's abilities only work on the opposite sex? Or only on other humans? Elan's got 18 charisma, and there's always the chance of a natural 20 on any die roll.
Tongue-in-cheek,
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2021-10-14, 08:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
Sunny is coded as a child (or at least immature) so I don't think we're going the seduction route. Friends, however...
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2021-10-14, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
Well, Sunny did Charm Elan earlier... so maybe Elan just accepted the friend request.
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2021-10-14, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
So Haley just says “nine ball, corner pocket” is code for Sunny (ball with nine eyes) to stop them, but I’m thinking it was intended as a specific method to use, namely for Sunny to block the hole. That was likely just obvious to everyone else, I suppose? I still feel a bit uncertain about the interpretation, for some reason.
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2021-10-14, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-14, 09:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-14, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
I might be reeeeeeeeeeeeally late to this party, but, I'm starting to think Sunny and MitD are related.
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2021-10-14, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-14, 10:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think that Sunny herself is the 9th ball, the "give supporting fire and block the hole" interpretation seems most probable.
Wait, is Sunny a boy or a girl? Have we heard them have pronouns used in reference to them?
I'm guessing Elan is going to convince Sunny to let them through because they need to get V to come back and help Durkon, as opposed to because they want to catch Serini.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2021-10-14 at 10:47 PM.
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2021-10-14, 10:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
I think beholders reproduce through paranoid delusion made real, so I'm not sure they would even have genders.
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2021-10-14, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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In 3.5e the method of reproduction is uh... gross, but either way it's an asexual method.
Frankly, considering that Sunny is literally a floating ball with magic laser eyes gender is probably the least strange thing about them.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2021-10-15, 01:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
Can you or somebody else explain to me what Serini's phrase means in the context of a game? Obviously, the comic makes clear what it meant tactically, but I don't know anything about billiards so I don't understand why it works as a metaphor.
Of course, maybe you just explained it in the post I'm quoting, but since I still don't understand I guess I'm going to need a more detailed explanation.Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
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2021-10-15, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
In the game of pool (or billiards), to oversimplfy a lot, your goal is to knock billiard balls into the pockets -- holes arranged around the edge of the pool table. (note that the meaning of the word "pool" as used here has nothing to do with water)
One rule people sometimes use is that you have to "call your shots" -- you have to state which of the balls you intend to sink and into which pocket.
A stereotypical format for doing so is "nine ball, corner pocket", with a gesture to indicate which corner of the table you mean. Pool balls are numbered 1 through 15, so this means you intend to sink ball #9 in the indicated pocket in the corner of the table. (there are also "side pockets")
In media, you often hear this with the nine ball or the eight ball specifically, since those balls are related to the victory conditions in some versions of the game. Also, "nine ball" flows off the tongue well.Last edited by Hurkyl; 2021-10-15 at 01:55 AM.
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2021-10-15, 02:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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You'd think Serini, an Epic Rogue, would know that a code word whose meaning is obvious is a useless code.
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2021-10-15, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
I mean Sunny seems to be even more of a "kid" than Elan, and that's saying a lot.
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2021-10-15, 05:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
*Chuckle*
Nice call.
There is no need for Sunny to have a gender, being a beholder. Thank you.
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2021-10-15, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's also the obvious issue of that I highly doubt the author planned for someone as notable as the monster in the dark to be something that's not in the open license.
I mean sure, he uses Sunny now, but I don't know how secure he would have been way back when the monster in the dark was set.
Considering they aren't exactly wearing any clothes, either we would have known by now one way or another - or it's like Pokemon where apparently there are issues with them having a gender identity and gender attraction even though there's not way of actually telling what the other pokemon is.
Code words have many uses in battle actually. Not only are they shortening out, but even if it's easy to figure out, it could still take you a second or two to realize and your enemy will always have to consider what exactly do you mean.
A good example of that in the OOTS is in the desert, where V gave the instruction that Xykon is feeling chilly. Notice that it wasn't that obvious at first what it means to everyone (specifically Belkar).
I also loved this panel they had in Marvel back in Civil War 2. Someone was about to blast one of the heroes on their side, so Ms Marvel shouts : "Peter look out!"
Then Spiderman (Peter Parker), Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) and Star-Lord (Peter Quill) turn around and get distracted and all of them get blasted.
Then Ironman goes : "That's why we use code words in battle"
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2021-10-15, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
I thought beholders had 2 methods of reproduction
1) reproduce via eggs laid from their mouth incubated under their tongue, this results in beholders identical to the "parent" beholder
2) they dream of another beholder who then apears in reality, this beholder is different from the original beholder
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2021-10-15, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
method 1. is 3e/3.5e, and possibly older editions like 2e as well. Beholders produced this way differ a little - they're not identical
method 2. is 5e, and possibly 4e. Method 1 does not apply in 5e, method 2 does not apply in 3e.Last edited by hamishspence; 2021-10-15 at 09:16 AM.
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2021-10-15, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1246 - The Discussion Thread
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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