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2021-10-25, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
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2021-10-25, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
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2021-10-25, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
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2021-10-25, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
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2021-10-25, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
True, yeah, I hadn't thought about how it would be transitive like that.
Maybe moonfly wanted towncred, but as they said, less powerful abilities could have been given for towncred.
Maybe...AV is a wolf... somehow? IDK, I feel like this is too easy if it's just within bat and meta and maybe goof. But I guess sometimes it is just easy.
Why bane you and not bladescape? Or Rogan, maybe.
Oh. Huh. I assumed you baned yourself N1, although I guess Snow wasn't a bad choice given the state of the game then.
Still not going to lynch Snow today.
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Oh wait Meta permabaned bladescape, right.I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2021-10-25, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 01:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 01:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
Meta has perma-baned bladescape and rogan (or is a lying wolf, but killing them would reveal meta as scum, so they won't get targeted tonight). If the wolves hit one of our six, they narrow the pool for us. They don't want to do that. If they hit Taff, they take out their only possible ally. They don't want to do that. I'm literally their best choice to murder tonight, which is why I've told both baners to be on me in case one of them is scum. Now they have no good options.
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2021-10-25, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
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2021-10-25, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
Wolf AV is always an easy guess to make, but this time, it would be nearly impossible.
AV could copy my power and got the same result with our names flipped. You know I am town, so I would not cooperate with wolf!AV to forge this lie.
So, AV either was not lying about her skill set and used the copy power, which makes much more sense if she is town.
Or she is capable of force-feeding me a lie. Either by knowing my power name, or by cooperation with goof, who would have to have the power to change the results his target gets.
In this case, my first question was answered correctly, AV and Goof are the wolves who are hiding behind the second, wrong question and AV faked her day 2.
It would also mean Cao was lying to gac all the time, since the wolves tried to kill AV.
AV is town.
Thanks. That's the expected result, but that's hardly your fault.
Goof on AV, Meta on me. A power gift on either one of us. Bane or Block to be decided.
Kill targets in the night to be decided.
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2021-10-25, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
It would in theory, but I could always make the drawback part of the inventor's skill set, not part of the skills themselves. Like, I could have the inventor have a passive power that does horrible things to anyone who uses an invention, without the invention-user ever knowing that there was a drawback.
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2021-10-25, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
I mean, just to point out a hole in that AV argument, even though AV is cleared in my book, but you said what you got, then AV said what they got. It would be simple for them to lie, add your name, and then protect the other mafia while making the list and our subsequent answers seem like massive falsehoods. But Taff was on the ultimate answer list right? and we know taff wasn't Mafia. But Maybe Taff has an anti-town Neutral role?
This is all just tinfoil hat though. But still, good things to keep in mind, since even though they're on the list for town, we havent actually mech cleared AV have we?
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2021-10-25, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
Here is tye actual order of events as far as "me and Rogan saying our answers"
Rogan: "my list doesn't have book"
AV: "my list has rogan"
Rogan: "my list has Goof, AV, and unexpected third"
AV: "my list was Rogan, Goof, and taff"
Rogan: "yes, taff was my third as well"
There was not really enough time in here for me to be reacting to what Rogan was saying. We were posting past each other for a good bit of it. Rogan did not post his list first, he implied two of the names on it right before I stated all three of mine outright.
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2021-10-25, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
I would need to check the exact time line, but as far as I can remember, I gave one name on the list and one name off the list. Then AV gave her list.
Taff is/was on the list. But Taff doesn't make sense. Book wasn't on the list. But Book was evil, at this time.
My guess would be, the list had Taff to make it clear the answer was wrong, Goof to clear him from being suspended and AV / Rogan for asking the question.Spoiler: I'm a seer
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2021-10-25, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
Rogan is correct on the reason I'm mech-cleared, I am saying you are incorrect when you said Rogan posted all his names before I did.
The results of N2 require Rogan to have given me an honest power name, and for me to have used it correctly and gotten basically identical results to rogan. Either we are both town, or both scum.
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2021-10-25, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
What AV said above.
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2021-10-25, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-25, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, ok, yeah I completely forgot about you saying that. Mostly because when I first read that post I thought you were asking rogan if he got you as a hostile, but then forgot about that when you both posted the full answers. Yeah, definitely no questions on your Towniness then, not even for my thickest tinfoil hat.
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2021-10-25, 03:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
To be clear, I was mostly trusting AV after things calmed down but I deliberately wasn't telling my whole list at once anyway. This allowed AV to show her knowledge as well, giving visible proof for everyone to see. The way our posts crossed each other wasn't planned, but it's about the best result possible.
AV is cleared both by gac and his play to trick Cao (who would have no way to coordinate with his allies after his death) and the interaction with me.
I am cleared by Elenna and the fact I gave AV my real power name.
Really, it's easier to see me as a lying wolf than AV. It would require some strange moves by me and Elenna would need to lie, but if you want to scum read me, have fun.
My current gut reaction guess for scum would be Snow and Bat.Spoiler: I'm a seer
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2021-10-25, 03:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
Yeah, AV clearly did actually use that power.
I was thinking that wolf!AV might have actually used your power, to get towncred. But I don't really think AV is a wolf. I'm just being paranoid, and with Snow's claim AV is the least cleared person among the list of cleared people.I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2021-10-25, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick
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