Upick 2 Thread 2: Revenge of the Upick

[Metastachydium]

Out of curiosity, were you also told you're a bad guy?

Wait, what?

[AvatarVecna]

The only thing not surprising is, Supagoof is on the list. But everyone else..? It can't be true, can it, AV?

I got Rogan, Taffamai, and Supagoof.

[Rogan]

No, but I was told you are.
Which could be true, but feels wrong.
And Taff is supposed to be evil as well.

But if he is, the color is so freaking strange...

[AvatarVecna]

I think the redacted part of Rogan's powered screwed with one of us, possibly both of us.

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We both got goof and taff then...

[Metastachydium]

That's what you get for trying to cheat, I suppose. Or you both are Evil.

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Until then, though: shall we kill Supagoof?

[Book Wombat]

I am confused.

[Rogan]

I think the redacted part of Rogan's powered screwed with one of us, possibly both of us.

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We both got goof and taff then...

Yeah. For what it is worth, I got my result immediately after night ended. Both times. So it's unlikely to be from another player, unless they got my question right away.

[Metastachydium]

I never really expected this to work as intended.

[AvatarVecna]

...hang on. I know your answer is at least 1/3 wrong, and I'm so freaking sure you're Trustworthy that I know mine is at least 1/3 wrong. And everybody figures BW was more suspect than Taff. You know your power has a redacted bit. What if the redacted bit is "your power returns only false answers"?

[Rogan]

I am confused.

Yeah, I am confused as well.
Taff simply doesn't make sense... he would have to get two different kill colors, but that's unlikely to be allowed.

[Batcathat]

Huh. I did think the Ultimate Question did seem too good to be true, but I was more expecting something along the lines of you guys getting an error message. I'm looking forward to seeing what that redacted part says after the game that can explain this result.

Also, the wolves and I'm assuming the serial killer really wanted gac dead? What's that about?

[AvatarVecna]

"AvatarVecna/Captain Cap/Supagoof/gac3/Book Wombat/Xihirli/bladescape/Taffamai

All wolves in that group?"

You received "Yes". CC, gac, Xi, and Blade are confirmed town. Taffamai and BW are both claiming Neutral. And I know I'm town. That would mean that either Supagoof is the sole remaining wolf, or the answer you got is wrong.

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Huh. I did think the Ultimate Question did seem too good to be true, but I was more expecting something along the lines of you guys getting an error message. I'm looking forward to seeing what that redacted part says after the game that can explain this result.

Also, the wolves and I'm assuming the serial killer really wanted gac dead? What's that about?

If my theory is correct, scum knew the power doesn't produce true answers, so they weren't worried about us. They were more worried about the townie who can talk to confirmed townies.

[Metastachydium]

...hang on. I know your answer is at least 1/3 wrong, and I'm so freaking sure you're Trustworthy that I know mine is at least 1/3 wrong. And everybody figures BW was more suspect than Taff. You know your power has a redacted bit. What if the redacted bit is "your power returns only false answers"?

The likelihood of that possibility largely depends on what a "false seer" is.

[AvatarVecna]

I never really expected this to work as intended.

You know what, you're right.

Unlikely.



Unlikely.



UPick 2: where everybody's playing the long game.

And I think I've got a theory as to why.

[Metastachydium]

You know what, you're right.



And I think I've got a theory as to why.

Enlighten me.

[Elenna]

Well that did seem too OP to work.

Supa I could believe. Rogan I could maybe believe before this, but the fact that he gave AV the power and it seemed to give similar results for both of them makes me doubt it. If wolf!Rogan really thought his power worked like that I can't imagine he'd actually give AV the right power name. AV I can't really see as a wolf, and Taffi can't be wolf or SK unless the "beaten to death" was a non-SK kill.

I'm also very confused by the fact that they both didn't get killed or roleblocked. Which implies that somehow wolves knew it wouldn't work like that?

BTW, bladescape, who did you aim at?

[Rogan]

What if the redacted bit is "your power returns only false answers"?

If this was the case, I would be quite annoyed.
I mean, having a hidden drawback is fine, but always being wrong?
It would be next to useless. I would have to learn this is the "problem" of the power first before I could get any real advantage...

Did someone target you tonight to protect you?

[Elenna]

Even with wolves not shooting at AV or Rogan, I wouldn't have picked gac as the target. I guess they were probably trying to avoid baners.

[AvatarVecna]

If this was the case, I would be quite annoyed.
I mean, having a hidden drawback is fine, but always being wrong?
It would be next to useless. I would have to learn this is the "problem" of the power first before I could get any real advantage...

Did someone target you tonight to protect you?

I was only aware of getting targeted with a kill the first time because it pinged my passive self-bane. I don't have a general power to detect kill attempts on my person.

[Metastachydium]

I'm also very confused by the fact that they both didn't get killed or roleblocked. Which implies that somehow wolves knew it wouldn't work like that?

The dogs only have one kill, and coordination between them and the killer is unlikely, so even if everyone was unprotected and the dogs/killer can void, there never really was a guarantee they can get both of them.

[AvatarVecna]

Enlighten me.

You're already lit.

I'm gonna do some Halloween shopping, then come back and do some proper ISOs.

[Book Wombat]

I was only aware of getting targeted with a kill the first time because it pinged my passive self-bane. I don't have a general power to detect kill attempts on my person.

But it showed all flavours for the Night it activated?

[Metastachydium]

You're already lit.

Don't play day 1 bladescape with me. Are you accusing me of something?

[AvatarVecna]

But it showed all flavours for the Night it activated?

It showed the flames, but my passive doesn't affect roleblocks AFAIK. Idk what to tell you.

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Don't play day 1 bladescape with me. Are you accusing me of something?

I've got about 40 hours to get my thoughts together. You'll get them when I'm ready to give them, and not a second before.

[Rogan]

Well that did seem too OP to work.

Supa I could believe. Rogan I could maybe believe before this, but the fact that he gave AV the power and it seemed to give similar results for both of them makes me doubt it. If wolf!Rogan really thought his power worked like that I can't imagine he'd actually give AV the right power name. AV I can't really see as a wolf, and Taffi can't be wolf or SK unless the "beaten to death" was a non-SK kill.

I'm also very confused by the fact that they both didn't get killed or roleblocked. Which implies that somehow wolves knew it wouldn't work like that?

BTW, bladescape, who did you aim at?

If I were a wolf, I would have lied about my first question anyway. I mean, why would I ask a question about my team?

So, assuming my power is wrong all the time, the wolves would know this. This would explain why they didn't try to stop us.
But the killer picked gac as well. Why?

[Book Wombat]

I'm going to laugh if the Mafia team turns out to be CaoimhinTheCape, Rogan and, AvatarVecna.

[Metastachydium]

If I were a wolf, I would have lied about my first question anyway. I mean, why would I ask a question about my team?

So, assuming my power is wrong all the time, the wolves would know this. This would explain why they didn't try to stop us.
But the killer picked gac as well. Why?

They thought we took measures to protect everyone important, including either you or AV?

[Rogan]

I was only aware of getting targeted with a kill the first time because it pinged my passive self-bane. I don't have a general power to detect kill attempts on my person.

But... you have a power to detect abilities used on you? You told us about Xihirlis block.

[AvatarVecna]

But... you have a power to detect abilities used on you? You told us about Xihirlis block.

Like I said, idk what to tell you. I just reported exactly what occurred in my QT.

[Metastachydium]

I'm going to laugh if the Mafia team turns out to be CaoimhinTheCape, Rogan and, AvatarVecna.

I think I'll be screaming instead. Or something.