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2021-11-16, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1247 - The Discussion Thread
I’d hope to see the formation of the whole original guil that fought the OOTS because 2-3 members of that weren’t the ones who tried to overthrow Tarquin (no I don’t trust trust that the kobold we saw in flashback wasn’t killed in the attempted coup and replaced by YikYik).
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2021-11-16, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-16, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-16, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1247 - The Discussion Thread
WRT to the western continent - the nature of the environment leads to insular city states that will fight over resources but find it difficult to maintain hold over other states. So I suspect this was intentional from the pantheon that created the area. It’s noticeable the elves have a highly fertile area and don’t seem to have those issues.
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2021-11-16, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-18, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1247 - The Discussion Thread
Why are we so sure that Serini recorded teleportation coordinates for the other gates, or even overtly recorded them at all? IIRC, the only thing we have is:
- In #0694, Girard says he gave Soon coordinates
- In #0196, Xykon says he "deciphered the locations"
While "decipher" and "decode" usually refer to undoing a cipher or code applied to information, it's colloquial use include figuring things out by piecing together incidental clues. E.g. if Serini's diary of adventurers included enough information to piece together that one of the locations was atop Crooked Mountain in the Redmountain Hills.
While we know that Xykon was able to teleport rather close to Girard's gate, it's nonobvious Team Evil had anything comparable for Soon's gate. In fact, #0415 reveals the whole encounter with Miko was an elaborate ploy that ultimately let them scry for information on the gate's location. This could go either way, of course: an ordinary city doesn't have the same sort of clues as a stereotypical dungeon crawl (complete with the "the bottom floors are off limits" rule) as to the location of the big prize it's hiding.Last edited by Hurkyl; 2021-11-18 at 01:25 PM.
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2021-11-18, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Xykon says in SoD, that in order to "translate" the location of the Gates he first had to work backward from the one he knew. I don't really see how that makes sense, if not referering to encoded coordinates.
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2021-11-18, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ok, makes sense.
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2021-11-19, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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At one point, it is implied that the elves actually sealed off the entirety of the northern section of the continent, which oddly enough makes me think there might have been some sort of magical catastrophe aeons ago? That could just be sealed in the "watchtowers and walls" sense though.
From a more mundane standpoint, it's also possible there was deforestation in the area that caused a once-small desert to swell in size, and this is the centuries-later result of that.
On the flipside, it's perfectly possible that the extremities of the Western Continent were meant to be societal hubs with cool adventure areas in between...? I don't know enough about anthropology to make any guesses about it.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2021-11-19 at 04:33 PM.
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2021-11-22, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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In 680, the cartographer tells Haley that the Elves have that part of the continent "sealed up", but I took that to mean that they've taken it for their exclusive use, not that there's a literal barrier in place.
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2021-11-22, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Maybe, nobody who has tried to cross that barrier has lived to tell the tale. (See the Girdle of Melian in Beleriand for a possible model).
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The Girdle enclosed the three forests of Neldoreth, Region, Nivrim and part of the land of Aelin-uial. All those who attempted to pass through it became enmeshed and wandered aimlessly as if lost in an impossible maze of trees, placing them in a situation where their food would eventually run out and they would die. The Girdle also protected Doriath from the dark influence and prying eyes of Morgoth, similar to the way Galadriel used Nenya to protect Lothlórien from Sauron.
That's what I had in my head canon as regards the Western Continent elves sealing their lands.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2021-11-22 at 02:23 PM.
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2021-11-22, 02:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think it's probably way simpler than that. Just south of the Elven Lands we find the Goaway Mountains. All the elves have to do is plug the safe passages through and set up patrols to its north to make sure nothing gets on the northern side that they'd rather keep south. Aside from that, all they need is good air defence capabilities.
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2021-11-22, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, plenty of things and persons in D&D based OoTS land can fly. I'm thinking that a D&D version of I-Hawk missiles would do the trick.
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2021-11-22, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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*There's no kill like overkill*
Wait, who said that?
Spoiler: A RAM that isn't a giant mountain goat(you need enough range on the missile to not have as many batteries. Most of the smaller missiles, like the Rolling Airframe Missile that was replacing Sea Sparrow on ships as I left the Navy, were smaller but also shorter range ... AD is an interesting warfare area and we are getting waaaaaay off topic)Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
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Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2021-11-23, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Nonsense, neither of my ears is pointed. On the other hand, he used to make overseas trips to help people with their Air Defense C3I systems and with interfacing with ours and to explain our systems for foreign purchasers.
I don't THINK any of those trips were to the elves, but I was rather young when he was on HAWK, so I may have missed something. They could be a foreign military sales customer....
My wife sometimes does cost estimates for FMS cases for small US military drones these days, I could ask if she knows if any of the US customers are elves, you could use the drones to watch the mountains for overland infiltration attempts.
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2021-11-23, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
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Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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