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    Good snark from Belkar there.
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    Indeed, gotta love his quips

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    Love Belkar's just-shut-up advice.
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    What is this new thing, a carpet of doom?
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    I keep forgetting that V's character development didn't include learning to be concise.

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    Hah! Belkar always gets the best punchlines.
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    So Serini is friends with lots of monsters, I get it. But doesn't it seem most of them are pretty old D&D canon?

    (Wait, did I just randomly check on the GiantITP within five minutes of a comic update? Wow.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyavar View Post
    So Serini is friends with lots of monsters, I get it. But doesn't it seem most of them are pretty old D&D canon?

    (Wait, did I just randomly check on the GiantITP within five minutes of a comic update? Wow.)
    Well, she set this place up like 50 years ago. Monster Manual was pretty different then. :) WAs that a shot from the giant to the forums there at the top? Love it!

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    Well, she set this place up like 50 years ago. Monster Manual was pretty different then. :) WAs that a shot from the giant to the forums there at the top? Love it!
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    While I presume Rich plans for this to flow naturally once it’s all done, I’m getting a little tired of “Serini counters everything the Order does”. Hopefully this chase ends before next Halloween.

    That being said I chuckled at V’s line in the last panel.
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    Belkar's the one to suggest NOT to kill. Yep. Nothing wrong there.
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    Hands-on-hips V is absolutely the cutest pedant.

    Since the toothy ceiling rug came from above, can someone explain the comic title to me?
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    V is gonna get another Soul Splice just to wipe out Serini if this keeps up (Where's Blackwing?)

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    Hands-on-hips V is absolutely the cutest pedant.

    Since the toothy ceiling rug came from above, can someone explain the comic title to me?
    The creature that fell on V is likely a Lurker Above, one of several Gygaxian creations that depended on adventurers rushing ahead without checking the ceiling (like V did.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCat View Post
    Since the toothy ceiling rug came from above, can someone explain the comic title to me?
    The creature is called a Lurker. The title is a play on the phrase "look out below".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    V is gonna get another Soul Splice just to wipe out Serini if this keeps up (Where's Blackwing?)
    Jokes aside, Blackwing’s still outside the dungeon with no way to get inside. So yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCat View Post
    Hands-on-hips V is absolutely the cutest pedant.

    Since the toothy ceiling rug came from above, can someone explain the comic title to me?
    Well, that creature is called a lurker, and its way of attacking is pretty well represented here. There is a variation of this creature called the lurker below that lives underwater instead, but that doesn't make much sense. The only other mention of it I found was a Kraken from World of Warcraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    While I presume Rich plans for this to flow naturally once it’s all done, I’m getting a little tired of “Serini counters everything the Order does”. Hopefully this chase ends before next Halloween.
    To be fair you were already tired of that approximately minus eleventy minutes after it started.

    Serini needs to be competent.
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    Does the fact that V was targeted with a mind-effecting beam mean that Serini's knowledge of the Order does not extend to the day-to-day level, or did V just get lucky?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hroþila View Post
    To be fair you were already tired of that approximately minus eleventy minutes after it started.

    Serini needs to be competent.
    I’d be glad to see that if she wasn’t making the protagonists look entirely incompetent in comparison. About the only thing the Order’s legitimately achieved through skill here is getting Sunny to blink and Haley kicking Serini down to the floor. And she got out of all of that as well.
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    Actually, if you read the RAW and...wait, you can have a wand of dimdoor? Sweet! I want one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by In4Dimensions View Post
    Does the fact that V was targeted with a mind-effecting beam mean that Serini's knowledge of the Order does not extend to the day-to-day level, or did V just get lucky?
    It means two things
    - Serini's knowledge is pretty good, but not 100%, and anyway, Sunny decided which ray to use without her guidance.
    - The Giant wanted to poke at the over-analyzing ways of this forum, just a little bit

    For my part, I just love this comic, in particular V's and Belkar's hilarious lines, and the super-cute little lurker!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Actually, if you read the RAW and...wait, you can have a wand of dimdoor? Sweet! I want one!
    …Uh, yeah? 4th or lower is fair game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locnil View Post
    I keep forgetting that V's character development didn't include learning to be concise.
    V has, if anything, gotten less concise than they were in the early days.

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    I'm pleased. So far, this is going about as well for the Order as I thought it would.
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    I am really annoyed by V's behavior at this juncture. Just running/flying ahead like that, without even checking their surroundings. Whatever happened to basic adventurer paranoia, though? It's like these people have never had a ceiling come to life and try to smother them before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    While I presume Rich plans for this to flow naturally once it’s all done, I’m getting a little tired of “Serini counters everything the Order does”. Hopefully this chase ends before next Halloween.

    That being said I chuckled at V’s line in the last panel.
    I mean rogues, specially very high level ones, are like that. And you are forgetting that now she is on the run because how Hailey countered her plan.
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    Well, she set this place up like 50 years ago. Monster Manual was pretty different then. :) WAs that a shot from the giant to the forums there at the top? Love it!
    Huh. Come to think about it, this seems like a good old-fashioned "the dungeon is out to kill you" adventure. Almost refreshing, really.

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    Two things.

    1. I like the detail of seeing the Lurker on hte roof in theearly panel.

    2. Is it just me, or do most major character halfings just seem to try to aggrivate V?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    The creature that fell on V is likely a Lurker Above,
    Not only that. It's a baby lurker above that hasn't yet grown to the size of a full 6 foot dungeon square.

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