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2021-11-30, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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It will always be funny to me that the Old EU decided that Obi-Wan stating that the Jedi Order had protected the Republic for "a thousand generations" meant that the Old Republic would have celebrated its 25, 000th year of continuous existence this very year. Not only was the old man willfully looking back on better times while in casual conversation was not being hyperbolic, he was precise to the fifth decimal place!
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2021-11-30, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-30, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Book of Boba Fett - First Trailer
There is at least one RL example of a label being applied simultaneously to a religion and an ethnicity, where you can be one without necessarily being the other. Couldn't the same principles apply to the grouping of 'Mandalorian'? A person genetically descended from the natives of Mandalore, and someone who follows The Way, aren't inherently linked in either direction?
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2021-11-30, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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There were more, but you're still close enough for government work. There's a reason I loudly applauded the Disney canon wipe. Except I think they didn't go far enough with leaving the Clone Wars in.
Pendulum swinging the other way isn't much better. The Republic has only been around for a thousand years, and coincidentally also precisely this very year!
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2021-11-30, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-30, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-30, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Err no? Djin calls it a "creed" but that seems more in the sense of "code" or "way of life" than religion. There's no indication that it has any supernatural component.
Edit: Also, Djin isn't very knowledgeable about Mandalore, so I wouldn't take his word as authoritative.
I'm not sure how "doing the exact same thing with another quote" counts as "swinging a pendulum", but true enough.Last edited by Fyraltari; 2021-11-30 at 12:51 PM.
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2021-11-30, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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https://youtu.be/vRhoKQj-_qI
At about 33-34 seconds in, he says "I'm a Mandalorian, Weapons are part of my Religion."
Given he hasn't been shown to have some *other* religion, and it was previously a religion in the EU.... Wouldn't it make sense to assume that's what he meant?
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2021-11-30, 01:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm French, Food is part of my Religion.
Guess, French is a religion, now.
Edit:I know this is the Internet but people don't always mean exactly what they are saying. Sometimes, they use things called "hyperboles", "similies", "irony", "metonymies" and other word-tricks to carry meaning by relying on shared context to modify the interpreation lf speech.
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2021-11-30, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Nothing is indicative of Mandalorians as a whole, because they're composed of a bunch of different sects constantly in conflict over what being a mandalorian actually is.
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2021-11-30, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-30, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Peelee; 2021-11-30 at 01:37 PM.
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2021-11-30, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-30, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Aye. One of the biggest things for him is not letting others see his face. He cannot take off his helmet in front of other beings. When asked what happens, he doesn't say that he won't go to Mandalorian Good Place, or that his soul will be corrupted, or any sort of metaphysical consequences. He says he can never put it back on again. He doesn't get cast into the fires of Mandalorian Bad Place when he dies. He simply stops being part of the group.
Now,i have no problemn calling followers of The Way a sect, or a cult, but I would use both of those in terms of how they relate to general Mandalorian culture and not in any religious sense.Last edited by Peelee; 2021-11-30 at 01:42 PM.
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2021-11-30, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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No? Also...
... Uh yes? Like a full 25% of his character is his religion. Doing things because that's what it means to be a Mandalorian. What's right to do for a Mandalorian. How many times has the helmet thing come up?
I think you're too caught up with trying to map all religious belief to a preconceived notion of what religion looks like.
Again. You guys are way too caught up with trying to map it onto certain IRL religions that shall not be mentioned. Not all religions are like that.
And also again, Mandalorians in the EU were a religion. They haven't changed all that much in the new Canon and give off explicitly religious vibes, while outright stating in at least one place "Hey we're a religion."Last edited by druid91; 2021-11-30 at 01:50 PM.
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2021-11-30, 01:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-11-30, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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In-universe, some other Mandalorians refer to the Children of the Watch as religious zealots.
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2021-11-30, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bo Katan is a traitor twice over to the Mandalorian Way, she's not the most reliable source.
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2021-11-30, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Maybe - but the idea seems to be that the "Way of the Mandalore" followed by the Children of the Watch is supposed be a religion of a kind. The usage of the term "Creed" does make it sound that way.
The name also suggests that they're a splinter group of the Death Watch (Bo-Katan's own organization early on) - especially in the context of the guys who rescued the young Din Djarin and raised him, wearing Death Watch style armour, right down to the "shriek-hawk" symbol.
She might call them "religious zealots" but I think they themselves would only take issue with the "zealots" part of the description.Last edited by hamishspence; 2021-11-30 at 02:27 PM.
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2021-12-08, 03:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Book of Boba Fett - First Trailer
Yet another trailer, this one a little bit longer:
Mainly the same scenes before, although...
Spoiler...new ship at 0:27, with some "witness my arrival, I'm significant" vibes.
Also, I'm getting the sense that Boba might have some prosthetics in his post-Sarlacc phase.
Probably a few more trailers to go until we get to the caboose of the hype train.
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2021-12-27, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always tomorrow. It's only a day aaawwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy!
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2021-12-27, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly, in the old EU (which I generally like) I always found Mandalorians and especially Boba Fett as kinda annoying fanwanky nonsense creations.
But yeah, I am actually looking forward to this show.
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2021-12-27, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dec. 29, according to the current banner on Disney+. Just in time for them to raise the annual subscription by $10.
I love Mando, and I’m expecting to enjoy Boba Fett, and definitely looking forward to Ahsoka and the High Republic series, not to mention Visions Season Two.
But the various Marvel shows this year have been…a mixed bag, to say the least. Many of the new shows probably won’t be out until 2023 at the earliest, and probably with another price increase by then.
I'm confident Boba Fett will deliver, but not as sure after that.
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2021-12-27, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Peelee; 2021-12-27 at 01:52 PM.
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2021-12-27, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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I never got KOTOR 2 to actually work, but agree on KOTOR 1. I really think a key function of that and one of the reasons the Mandalorian only sort of works, is that it's willing to actually address both the strengths and weaknesses of the Mandalorians, instead of having the Mandalorians be unstoppable badasses. I think my favorite scene out of the entire game may be the Carth-Canderous conversation on this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK85sQyE5Ls).
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2021-12-27, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-12-27, 08:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Mandos as a concept just seemed weirdly uncreative. We know how to make this super durable metal, time to use it to make the same exact suit of armour 100 million times.
Spoiler: Mando Armourit ends up being pretty drama sapping, as it results in action scenes vainly trying to somehow squeeze tension out of shooting blasters at someone that is nearly invulnerable to blasters. It's such a massive advantage that it breaks the combat.
If this show wants me to take an interest ( which, honestly, it probably doesn't) it'll have to find some way around that problem.
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2021-12-28, 07:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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I mean to be fair In 90% of star wars media blasters aren't usually a threat to a main character because lightsaber.
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2021-12-28, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-12-28, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Not the same.
With a lightsabre, there's potential to not be quick enough, there's still potential danger (and we do see Jedi get overwhelmed or have to flee)
SpoilerMando gets into utterly stakesless fights where he's held up at gunpoint when said gunpoint has no prospect of hurting him. They do Western style standoffs like with the head of security in that town where they pretend that being quick on the draw matters, when Mando is at no risk at all, because even if the other guy shoots first it will just bounce off him.
See: Head of Security in that Town, Cobb Vanth, etc.