Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXVI

[H_H_F_F]

For similar reasons I used Feral Gargun as my race. I didn't think anybody else would use, and thought I could showcase it as a third means of qualification. I was wrong.

That was a very reasonable assumption. As far as I can tell, we've never had a Feral Gargun before this round - which isn't surprising. It could only find justification in a goliath exclusive round, and this is the only one we've done, I believe.

I wonder whether or not Dawncaller would make for a good ingredient.

[The Viscount]

It certainly isn't very good, which is fitting for a secret ingredient. Entry is quite restrictive though, and I try to pick ingredients with more avenues of entry (shining blade round aside). I could be convinced if it's what the people want.

[H_H_F_F]

Even if we do end up doing it, it probably shouldn't come soon. Give the mountain folk some time to breath.

[Venger]

what a crummy prestige class

[daremetoidareyo]

While the judge chews on these here Peregrines Runner, Does anyone want to speculate on what the next ingredient will be?

[Zaq]

Are there any appropriate psionic candidates remaining?

[Wildstag]

Are there general rules on how things change? Or what limits there are on PrC? I know Warshaper's been done, so 5-level classes aren't out...

I'd love to see Thief-Acrobat, Incarnum Blade, or Wild Plains Outrider (for a three-level PrC). Those short prcs are fun and allow for greater shenanigans by not being a full half the build.

[H_H_F_F]

Are there general rules on how things change? Or what limits there are on PrC? I know Warshaper's been done, so 5-level classes aren't out...

I'd love to see Thief-Acrobat, Incarnum Blade, or Wild Plains Outrider (for a three-level PrC). Those short prcs are fun and allow for greater shenanigans by not being a full half the build.

Warshaper hasn't been done, at least not on these forums. As far as I know, we're doing 10 level classes exclusively.

[The Viscount]

I have exactly 1 psionic class on my list. I'm a little hesitant given how last round I had a psionic ingredient, I had a grand total of 3 entries, one of which was mine.

The focus is 10 level ingredients, for a number of reasons, including that it's even harder to showcase a 5 level class. We've done dungeon lord in the past in a special round, and I've pondered doing 2 5 level classes, but that seems a bit wandering into junkyard wars territory.

Some options I was mulling over. As we reach the winter season where the nights grow longer, choose your flavor of darkness:

• Unnecessarily Complicated Darkness
• Baffling Concept Darkness
• Obscure Darkness

[H_H_F_F]

These all sound great. I support Unnecessarily Complicated.

[Troacctid]

I like Obscure Darkness. That's the best kind of darkness.

[Thurbane]

I'll vote Obscure Darkness.

[Venger]

Obscure darkness, definitely.

[Wildstag]

Huh, thought I'd seen Warshaper in the list. Those short prcs could be fun to show off how they are used to support the other levels rather than be a pillar on its own. The issue with doing two 5-level PrCs would probably just be conflicting prereqs.

Did I see "Unnecessarily Complicated" on the list?

P.S. Ah, I think I saw Waverider and just erroneously assumed as I scrolled through the list.

[daremetoidareyo]

Baffling concept!

[Seward]

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Missed the direction change in the conversation.

A 5 lvl prc might be fun, or a combo of 2 PRCs (or maybe a 5 and a 3 lvl. Ruathar Nature Warrior or HalfOrc Paragon + Outcast Champion) I'd like a thematic connection between the PRCs though.

Um. another vote for Obscuring Darkness.

[Zaq]

I’ll regret this, but put me down for baffling concept darkness. I bet that’ll produce the builds that are the most creative in an obnoxious and stupid way.

[AvatarVecna]

Obscure Darkness.

[mattie_p]

Quick update here. I'm a little over halfway done with my scoring. Going through elegance is always the toughest part for me due to the way I check. Got a mostly free weekend coming up so should have good progress.

[loky1109]

Baffling Concept Darkness

[Beni-Kujaku]

Unnecessarily complicated darkness

[H_H_F_F]

Quick update here. I'm a little over halfway done with my scoring. Going through elegance is always the toughest part for me due to the way I check. Got a mostly free weekend coming up so should have good progress.

Thanks for the update, mattie.

[Seward]

Thanks for the update, mattie.

Agreed. This is my first time and when I read earlier threads I never thought to see how long this period was. Much longer than I thought (although this period is well within normal range based on prior threads, Mattie's progress plus also holidays etc), so the waiting and suspense are more difficult than I expected.

[daremetoidareyo]

Agreed. This is my first time and when I read earlier threads I never thought to see how long this period was. Much longer than I thought (although this period is well within normal range based on prior threads, Mattie's progress plus also holidays etc), so the waiting and suspense are more difficult than I expected.

I think that’s why zaq tries to stagger the e6 round with the main comp: to eat up that anxious energy with something new

[Paragon]

How are you doing Mattie_p ?
Really eager to read your words :p (no pressure, if you happen to have an ETPosting it'd be great !)
Thanks for standing up to judge, hope I don't sound too presumptuous, i'm just impatient.

[mattie_p]

I wish I had better news, my weekend was less productive, judging wise, than I had hoped. I have tonight and tomorrow night free, however, and would like to wrap this up within about 30 hours if things go as planned.

[H_H_F_F]

Do things ever go as planned? Thanks for the update, Mattie, and good luck!

[mattie_p]

Things never seem to go to plan. Yesterday was essentially unavailable for judging due to an urgent situation at work. Tonight I have gaming group, so Friday it is. Sorry for the delay.

[Seward]

Is Mattie our only judge for this round? If not, I wonder how the others are doing?

[H_H_F_F]

I'm pretty sure mattie_p is soloing this round.