OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread

[Fyraltari]

So forum rules are ignored when insulting a specific nationality?

What rule do you think is being ignored?

[Emanick]

It's funny that English food is considered some of the worst national cuisines, because a (former?) close friend of mine will go out of his way to seek out any restaurant that serves English-style food. He particularly loves fish and chips.

There's little about his tastes that I can vouch for, but apparently English food does have its defenders.

[RatElemental]

Fish and chips is basically just beer-battered fish fillets and thick cut fries. It would be difficult to mess either one of those up and you don't even particularly need spices for either.

[Peelee]

It's funny that English food is considered some of the worst national cuisines, because a (former?) close friend of mine will go out of his way to seek out any restaurant that serves English-style food. He particularly loves fish and chips.

There's little about his tastes that I can vouch for, but apparently English food does have its defenders.

My wife and I went to a British restaurant last time we visited DC at my behest. For all that i like to dunk on them, there's more than enough tasty British cuisine to easily warrant a restaurant visit at the very least.

[danielxcutter]

I mean, I’d be shocked if there’d been literally no good British food at all.

[KorvinStarmast]

Mmmm elaborate that please.

Have you ever read the books?
Do you know any English people?
Do you know anything about JRR Tolkien's life, background, and preferences?

FWIW, mjasghar has a point. If only there were a mod around.

He particularly loves fish and chips.

There's little about his tastes that I can vouch for, but apparently English food does have its defenders.

Besides a proper fish and chips, and a good pint (I am a Theakstons's fan, and a real ale proponent) a full English breakfast is not to be missed. Best one I recall was in the Lake District but as I dig through the memory, I can't remember the name of the place we stayed. The over indulgence in Theakston's products that week may have something to do with it.

And then there's roast beef with Yorkshire pudding.

[Peelee]

Ask and ye shall receive.

The Mod on the Silver Mountain: The proper procedure when one suspects a post of breaking the Forum Rules is to report any such post on question. Openly suggesting the rules are being broken is not a part of this procedure, and is likely to cross the line into Vigilante Modding.

[Vikenlugaid]

Have you ever read the books?
Do you know any English people?
Do you know anything about JRR Tolkien's life, background, and preferences?

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I did read the books, twice, and i know everything about Tolkien's biography. I don't know english people but that's irrelevant because Tolkien's didn't inspire anything in people of this days, and I didn't live in his age.

Curious way of elaborating anyway, you just asked questions, that's definetly not elaborating XD

I just want to know how are you so sure that hobbits are british.

[Liquor Box]

PD: if we can't count indian food as national food of England, then which is the national food of USA, for example?

This.

What do people think the difference is between what most people eat in England and what most people eat in USA? There might be a few types of food that are distinct (like corn/maize) but most of the foods are the same.

[Riftwolf]

So forum rules are ignored when insulting a specific nationality?

Yeh pretty much my thoughts on this too. I console myself by thinking Americans can insult the British as much as they want, because it's our language they're using to do it.

[Fyraltari]

Yeh pretty much my thoughts on this too. I console myself by thinking Americans can insult the British as much as they want, because it's our language they're using to do it.

You don't like your food being ribbed?

[danielxcutter]

If anyone wants to comment about how much garlic Koreans use in their cooking then I would be incapable of retorting because it would be entirely true.

[Riftwolf]

You don't like your food being ribbed?

I don't know, if I was to go on about cultural stereotypes of, oh I don't know, Americans being gun-toting, overweight and arrogant, how long would it be before I got shut down?

[mjasghar]

This.

What do people think the difference is between what most people eat in England and what most people eat in USA? There might be a few types of food that are distinct (like corn/maize) but most of the foods are the same.

That’s only a perception. The reality is a big difference because what people eat in the USA depends on where they live much more - beans and beef in the mid south, catfish and so on elsewhere, clams elsewhere. Culturally monotony tends to be pushed by advertisers.
WRT takeaway food that obviously varies with the local immigrant populations and over time can become part of the mainstream.

[Fyraltari]

I don't know, if I was to go on about cultural stereotypes of, oh I don't know, Americans being gun-toting, overweight and arrogant, how long would it be before I got shut down?

Long I guess, pretty sure I've ribbed on those syereotypes before without issue. The rules are against flaming and trolling not, stereotype-based jokes.

[danielxcutter]

I don't think light-hearted jokes about cuisine stereotypes really goes against the forum rules. If it crosses over into talking about politics or religion, or racism then it'd be a problem, or if the joke itself is particularly offensive. I wouldn't say these are that bad though?

[Metastachydium]

I don't know, if I was to go on about cultural stereotypes of, oh I don't know, Americans being gun-toting, overweight and arrogant, how long would it be before I got shut down?

Hm. Arrogant, overweight gun-toters are slow (because overweight), but have a range advantage (with the gun-toting and all that). After factoring the arrogance in, I think your chances of survival would… Exist?

[danielxcutter]

Oh, if we're talking about Americans... don't you guys have fried butter?

[Fyraltari]

Oh, if we're talking about Americans... don't you guys have fried butter?

I wouldn't be surprised to learn they fry oil.

[Metastachydium]

Oh, if we're talking about Americans... don't you guys have fried butter?

Is that a thing that can be put into a deep fried burger wrapped into bacon and then deep fried again?

[Peelee]

This.

What do people think the difference is between what most people eat in England and what most people eat in USA? There might be a few types of food that are distinct (like corn/maize) but most of the foods are the same.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cuisine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_cuisine

You seem to be quite confident for how incorrect you are. At least, regarding national foods/foods relatively native to the area. American cuisine has a rather longost, largely helped by our great size as there are many regional cuisines. Which is to say, there's a bit more than just "corn/maize".

Unless you mean "what people eat on an every day basis", of course, but that would be an odd point to make as, to the best of my knowledge, nobody was taking about that.

[Bacon Elemental]

Another thread sadly descended into the recent internet meme of bashing british people, culture, and cuisine as harshly and inaccurately as you possibly can without breaking whatever the local web rules are.

Delightful.

[Fyraltari]

Another thread sadly descended into the recent internet meme of bashing british people, culture, and cuisine as harshly and inaccurately as you possibly can without breaking whatever the local web rules are.

Delightful.

"Recent internet meme"? My, dear, mocking the rosbifs and their food is a national tradition!

[danielxcutter]

Wait, I don't think there's been much jokes about the British aside from the cuisine in the first place.

Edit: Also isn't making jokes about British cuisine pretty old?

[Vikenlugaid]

That’s only a perception. The reality is a big difference because what people eat in the USA depends on where they live much more - beans and beef in the mid south, catfish and so on elsewhere, clams elsewhere. Culturally monotony tends to be pushed by advertisers.
WRT takeaway food that obviously varies with the local immigrant populations and over time can become part of the mainstream.

But which of those meals are typical and unique of USA?

[danielxcutter]

I mean that's why these jokes are about stereotypes...

[Peelee]

But which of those meals are typical and unique of USA?

You mean aside from cajun, creole, Tex-Mex, soul food, southern food, American BBQ, etc etc? Imean, sure, if you ignore all the American food then there's probably no American food, but that's an odd sentiment.

[Metastachydium]

soul food

I always knew you 'Mericans are Evil, but… You eat souls?

[danielxcutter]

And according to the BoVD, destroying souls is always evil so... >.>

[bunsen_h]

I always knew you 'Mericans are Evil, but… You eat souls?

There's the end of one of my favourite chapters of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality... but that's implicitly British.

"Professor Snaaaaaape!" wailed Pansy Parkinson in tears...