OOTS #1248 - The Discussion Thread

[Shining Wrath]

My congratulations to those who spotted the similarity between the floor and Serini's lair. Nice catch.

So now we have Serini nervous, and the party has entered her final hideout. This is where she goes lethal.

[Metastachydium]

My congratulations to those who spotted the similarity between the floor and Serini's lair. Nice catch.

So now we have Serini nervous, and the party has entered her final hideout. This is where she goes lethal.

Well, she wanted to get lethal the moment it became obvious that the Order won't just obediently go down as she planned (khm, "we have glue", khm).

[In4Dimensions]

The scroll of Passwall wasn't totally a surprise!

[Psyren]

Well, that answers the question about how she can teleport in the dungeon Excellent to have some theories confirmed. And we now have confirmation that her lair is indeed inside the complex proper.

No, paladins Lein and O-Chul. Soon died.

ba-dum-tish

After being trapped under the pyramid, I’m not surprised that V obtained that spell. Fool me once……

Especially when you can't teleport. V should definitely keep this around as a go-forward tactic.

I wonder if Passwall will work on the dimensional stone? It's not teleportation after all.

The scroll of Passwall wasn't totally a surprise!

Brilliant.

[danielxcutter]

Passwall's a Transmutation effect I think, so it probably should. It sounds like the stone is mostly about effectively blocking line-of-effect for teleportation effects and Ethereal Plane cheesing.

[Fyraltari]

Passwall only makes a temporary hole, right? It would probably be wiser to regroup before trying to follow Serini.

[In4Dimensions]

Passwall only makes a temporary hole, right? It would probably be wiser to regroup before trying to follow Serini.

It's an hour per level. Serini might have (well, probably does have) a wand of Dispel Magic though.

Also, technically, Passwall doesn't state that it can make holes in floors.

[Wannes]

No, paladins Lein and O-Chul. Soon died.

Keeping them chained without supervision was dangerous, but I didn't expect it to be so dangerous that they both soon died.

[Rogan]

I'm pretty sure that I guessed Serini had used normal stone for some parts of her dungeon, so she could use it as a secret door with her Wand.

Am I the only one who thinks the floor monster seems to be sad?

[danielxcutter]

Keeping them chained without supervision was dangerous, but I didn't expect it to be so dangerous that they both soon died.

There's only one Soon.

[Peelee]

Passwall's a Transmutation effect I think, so it probably should. It sounds like the stone is mostly about effectively blocking line-of-effect for teleportation effects and Ethereal Plane cheesing.

Seconded. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work on multidimensional stone.

Keeping them chained without supervision was dangerous, but I didn't expect it to be so dangerous that they both soon died.

No, only one Soon died.

[3SecondCultist]

Excellent, so we'll be seeing a Serini & co. vs Team Rogue Wizard (with Team Paladin and Belkar backing them up) showdown... only to cut away to Elan and Minrah having befriended Sunny.

I can feel the cutaway gag coming!

[Fyraltari]

No, only one Soon died.

That's two Soon, man, way two Soon.

[Metastachydium]

Am I the only one who thinks the floor monster seems to be sad?

It has more of a "badly hurt" face, but I'd bet that doesn't make it very happy.

[Vikenlugaid]

Wow Belkar DID change a lot.

I agree that wall should lead to where the paladins are, this will be interesting... Serini seems nervous so I bet she is running out of tricks, maybe one more... But then what? Just surrender? Or go lethal?

[CountDVB]

They're all showing more genre-savvy, even Belkar, Elan would be tearing up with pride right now.

Also, V's comment on the omnious pause makes me wonder if that was another reason why Elan considered becoming a Wizard

[Personification]

They're all showing more genre-savvy, even Belkar, Elan would be tearing up with pride right now.

Also, V's comment on the omnious pause makes me wonder if that was another reason why Elan considered becoming a Wizard

Belmar has always been genre savvy about these things. One of my favorite early quotes from him is the old "What happened to adventurer paranoia? It's like they've never had the ceiling come to life and try to smother them before." (I may have garbled the wording a bit)

[danielxcutter]

And V has always had a basic understanding of drama, which is why they know when to complain about it.

[Thermophille]

Laying down my prediction now:

Serini doesn't actually explain her problems to the Order. The Paladins tell the Order when they drop through the ceiling. The Order, realizing how things must look, attempt some sort of resolution with Serini, perhaps letting the whole Godsmoot situation slip at some point.

[LasVegasLawyer]

Silly wizard. You can't dramatically reveal something you outright revealed only 10 panels ago. How short do you think our attention spans are, an-

Hey, Belkar is being funny!

[Shining Wrath]

I'm going to take a wild guess here.
Belkar's last breath is imminent, because who better to kill the violent halfling than a violent halfling? Belkar will hesitate because he kind of likes her, and she'll kill him.

Or, possibly, petrify him (which would meet the definition of "last breath").

[Fyraltari]

I'm going to take a wild guess here.
Belkar's last breath is imminent, because who better to kill the violent halfling than a violent halfling?

Xykon. Redcloak. The Snarl.

[DaOldeWolf]

Cool, we got a chase to conntinue. I kinda wonder where she is going. Could she be returning to base where her stuff and the paladins are?

[Wintermoot]

I'm going to take a wild guess here.
Belkar's last breath is imminent, because who better to kill the violent halfling than a violent halfling? Belkar will hesitate because he kind of likes her, and she'll kill him.

Or, possibly, petrify him (which would meet the definition of "last breath").

Petrified, then animated. Boom. Breathless Belkar of Stony Doom!

[Schroeswald]

Petrified, then animated. Boom. Breathless Belkar of Stony Doom!

And then of course he moves to the Snarl world and is never allowed to retire ever.

[Psyren]

I'm really enjoying Belkar's brand of dungeon-genre-savvy. I never thought several hundred strips ago that I'd be sad to see him go, but I fully expect his end to be tragic now.

[Xel]

While the floor monster is interesting from a story perspective, it feels like a poor design for a trap to have put it in a place that reveals the normal stone. Even if the targets didn’t notice it, it’s going to reveal that normal stone when it attacks. I’d think keeping the camouflage intact by putting the floor monster further up the passage would have been prudent.

[RatElemental]

That's very clever placement of the floor monster, acting as both a trap and camouflage of an entrance.

Can't help but feel dreadfully sorry for the poor little floor monster though.

I dunno, I can't help but question the logic of having a monster there at all. The lurker above slowed them down, yeah, but unless that trapper managed to kill all three of them all it would manage to do would be to mildly inconvenience one of them before they noticed the different stone anyway.

[Sloanzilla]

Why didn't the floor monster fight back after being stabbed? Just caught off guard?

[Baelzar]

Finally, the INT score appears!