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    I'm both interested and concerned with this. This movie looks really overstuffed to me, and although all the individual pieces look good I worry about their ability to combine well in the runtime of a single movie. Spider-verse and Sinister Six in one movie is asking a LOT.

    Speaking of which, the animated Spider-verse film was just a couple years ago, did we really need that in a movie again already?

    Ah well, I hope it's good, and I hope it's not the last of the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.
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    I'm both interested and concerned with this. This movie looks really overstuffed to me, and although all the individual pieces look good I worry about their ability to combine well in the runtime of a single movie. Spider-verse and Sinister Six in one movie is asking a LOT.

    Speaking of which, the animated Spider-verse film was just a couple years ago, did we really need that in a movie again already?

    Ah well, I hope it's good, and I hope it's not the last of the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.
    That's just kinda how the MCU does things in general though. They're less "intricate and well laid plot lines" and more "let's just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks!" It works for them because they're not the type of movies you want to think too hard about.

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    Dunno why everyone assumes MJ will be saved from the fall. Spiderman in comics and movies has a long history of being motivated by the death of a girlfriend via fall.

    Haven't had a good fridging for hero motivation in positively weeks. Classic for the win.

    I'm pretty sure I saw mysterio in some preview or another. It could've been a flashback or a memory or a dream or something, but otherwise, there's your sixth member of the sinister six without needing Venom of any variety.
    Gwen Stacy dies when she falls, MJ gets saved. It's like clockwork. Also, imagine the ****ing screeching that would ensue on the internet if they killed off Zendaya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaryon View Post
    Spider-verse and Sinister Six in one movie is asking a LOT.

    Speaking of which, the animated Spider-verse film was just a couple years ago [...]?
    Wasn't that movie precisely Spider-verse and the Sinister Six (and also introduced Miles Morales)?
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    Just smells like a giant ball of fanservice. Pass.

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    Also, imagine the ****ing screeching that would ensue on the internet if they killed off Zendaya.
    I am abruptly wanting to see them kill her off, then bring her back as an evil supervillain from an alternate universe.

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    Speaking of which, the animated Spider-verse film was just a couple years ago, did we really need that in a movie again already?
    This is a sentiment I've been seeing a lot, lately. Spider-verse doesn't really need to be the default state of Spider-Man media. Heck, the darn near obsession with it has even leaked into the Power Rangers comics, what with the whole Shattered Grid storyline. Too much of a good thing can get old.
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    This is a sentiment I've been seeing a lot, lately. Spider-verse doesn't really need to be the default state of Spider-Man media. Heck, the darn near obsession with it has even leaked into the Power Rangers comics, what with the whole Shattered Grid storyline. Too much of a good thing can get old.
    I don't think you can reasonably blame Spider-Verse for that given that they did their ultimate every-team-ever crossover literally the same month the Spider-Verse comic started (and it was based on the Super Sentai 35th anniversary movie from 3 years before that).

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    We won't hit peak Spiderverse until they give us a big screen portrayal of Japanese Spider-man (The Emissary From Hell!) and his giant mecha Leopardon...
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    I mean, "what if there was more than one Spiderman" is a story that's been around with different variations since the 70s at least. It's one of his more common recurring stories. Also there are way too many Spider people in comics as a result.

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    We won't hit peak Spiderverse until they give us a big screen portrayal of Japanese Spider-man (The Emissary From Hell!) and his giant mecha Leopardon...
    While that would be cool, we'd probably just end up with a modern update of that character, which would just lead us back to Peni Parker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    While that would be cool, we'd probably just end up with a modern update of that character, which would just lead us back to Peni Parker
    Peni is cool, don't get me wrong, but she's still no Takuya. Heck, I'd settle for a Spiderverse 2 cameo where someone makes an off-hand comment about Spiderpeople who were just too weird to recruit, even for a team that includes Peter Porker.
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    Peni is cool, don't get me wrong, but she's still no Takuya.
    No argument here.
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    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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    I don't think you can reasonably blame Spider-Verse for that given that they did their ultimate every-team-ever crossover literally the same month the Spider-Verse comic started (and it was based on the Super Sentai 35th anniversary movie from 3 years before that).
    We don't need to talk about the Super Megaforce "Legendary" War. It was a pale imitation of the Sentai version. But I wasn't really "blaming" anything on anything else.

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    Wasn't Takuya and Leopardon already canon in the comics anyway?

    Also, yeah, if we can possibly have the 35th anniversary SS as far away as possible from any PR discussion, that would be great.
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    We won't hit peak Spiderverse until they give us a big screen portrayal of Japanese Spider-man (The Emissary From Hell!) and his giant mecha Leopardon...
    What about a cameo from Yuu Onomae, protagonist of Spider-Man: Fake Red? Short series where Spidey goes missing, and a Japanese-American guy with a similar build stumbles across his suit.

    The finale of the 90s animated series had a multidimensional team of Spider-Men, one of whom turns out to be an actor from a universe similar to our own (imagine if they accidentally recruited Tom Holland, basically); he feels too useless to join their mission, but ends up saving the day at the last minute. If you really wanted, you could reference two past media at once by slotting Yuu into that role.

    And then there's Yuu Komori, protagonist of the 70s Spider-Man manga, who spends a lot of time morbidly depressed and fantasising about murdering the people who annoy him.

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    Wasn't Takuya and Leopardon already canon in the comics anyway?

    Also, yeah, if we can possibly have the 35th anniversary SS as far away as possible from any PR discussion, that would be great.
    Yeah, he did get to show up and help in the comics Spiderverse crossover.

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    Also, yeah, if we can possibly have the 35th anniversary SS as far away as possible from any PR discussion, that would be great.
    …gonna ask for clarification here. SS = Sinister Six?

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    …gonna ask for clarification here. SS = Sinister Six?
    Super Sentai, if I followed the discussion. The original Japanese costumed-hero series that Power Rangers is built on re-using footage from.

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    I'm both interested and concerned with this. This movie looks really overstuffed to me, and although all the individual pieces look good I worry about their ability to combine well in the runtime of a single movie. Spider-verse and Sinister Six in one movie is asking a LOT.

    Speaking of which, the animated Spider-verse film was just a couple years ago, did we really need that in a movie again already?

    Ah well, I hope it's good, and I hope it's not the last of the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.
    Too be fair, the difference here is these are all well established and known characters to the audience, making it a lot easier to toss them into a blender and hit frappe. That was the problem with toby and his third. You had harry osborn as the goblin, the venom suit then brock as venom AND you had the sandman all needing to have their origin story and motivation and such covered in a single film. This time we can just go "OMG ITS DOCK OCK!" Honestly, I wanted a spiderman franchise to live long enough for a sinister six film for a long time now.

    This all sounds like it can be an easy justification for a reboot, after all, holland is on record as saying he doesnt want to be playing spiderman when he is 30. And a huge multiversal collision like this can easily have reboot effects. You could even literally bring in a new actor to play spiderman in THIS mcu and justify it through dimensional shenanigans. Plenty of angst as mj and may want nothing to do with this stranger, the new spiderman isnt familiar with anyone or anything here, etc.
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    Too be fair, the difference here is these are all well established and known characters to the audience, making it a lot easier to toss them into a blender and hit frappe. That was the problem with toby and his third. You had harry osborn as the goblin, the venom suit then brock as venom AND you had the sandman all needing to have their origin story and motivation and such covered in a single film. This time we can just go "OMG ITS DOCK OCK!" Honestly, I wanted a spiderman franchise to live long enough for a sinister six film for a long time now.

    This all sounds like it can be an easy justification for a reboot, after all, holland is on record as saying he doesnt want to be playing spiderman when he is 30. And a huge multiversal collision like this can easily have reboot effects. You could even literally bring in a new actor to play spiderman in THIS mcu and justify it through dimensional shenanigans. Plenty of angst as mj and may want nothing to do with this stranger, the new spiderman isnt familiar with anyone or anything here, etc.
    If they went with that route I'd imagine we'd get Miles instead of Peter as Spidey. Which...the MCU's Peter already steals a lot from Miles anyway, so it's not that big of a change.

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    If they went with that route I'd imagine we'd get Miles instead of Peter as Spidey. Which...the MCU's Peter already steals a lot from Miles anyway, so it's not that big of a change.
    For all we know we might get ben reily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Too be fair, the difference here is these are all well established and known characters to the audience, making it a lot easier to toss them into a blender and hit frappe. That was the problem with toby and his third. You had harry osborn as the goblin, the venom suit then brock as venom AND you had the sandman all needing to have their origin story and motivation and such covered in a single film. This time we can just go "OMG ITS DOCK OCK!" Honestly, I wanted a spiderman franchise to live long enough for a sinister six film for a long time now.
    Also, to MCU's credit, it has a track record of handling newly-introduced ensemble casts courtesy of James Gunn's GotG. So there's at least some kind of precedent or template, and the MCU loves its templated movies.

    It's pretty wild how many mulligans Fox had in making a good ensemble movie, but missed on most of their attempts. Sony blew both of its live action ensemble Spider-Man movies, with Spiderverse at least bringing Sony's hitting record to at least a 1 of 3.
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    For all we know we might get ben reily.
    If we finally got some 2099 representation, I'd be very happy.

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    For all we know we might get ben reily.
    I can't see them passing up a chance to put Miles in the MCU. It's not a matter of if he gets in, but when. With the huge push for representation and how good the MCU is about being inclusive, and the fact that Miles is probably the best of those legacy characters...It just makes sense.

    Not saying it'll be as a result of this movie, but it won't be long.

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    I can't see them passing up a chance to put Miles in the MCU. It's not a matter of if he gets in, but when. With the huge push for representation and how good the MCU is about being inclusive, and the fact that Miles is probably the best of those legacy characters...It just makes sense.

    Not saying it'll be as a result of this movie, but it won't be long.
    Speaking of representation, I havent heard anything about the jane as thor thing that was announced a long ways back. Is that still on?
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    Speaking of representation, I havent heard anything about the jane as thor thing that was announced a long ways back. Is that still on?
    Last I heard all of next year’s MCU slate has gotten pushed out a few months, including Thor 4.

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    I can't see them passing up a chance to put Miles in the MCU. It's not a matter of if he gets in, but when. With the huge push for representation and how good the MCU is about being inclusive, and the fact that Miles is probably the best of those legacy characters...It just makes sense.

    Not saying it'll be as a result of this movie, but it won't be long.
    You say that... But they basically already did Miles' story.

    They just made him white, called him "Peter Parker", called Ganke "Ned Leeds", and replaced the orignal Spider-Man with Iron Man.
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    You say that... But they basically already did Miles' story.
    Also, Spider-verse. It’s got a sequel coming next year 2022.
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