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2022-02-12, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Now that you mention it, I don't recall him ever refusing something. Be it even a deep dark cave of death in a creepy abandoned shack, he will climb into it and carry people out.
He did have a moment of doubt when he left his home, but I feel that it didn't work out too well because, as far as we could see, he wasn't leaving much.
Now, imagine if the comic had started out with him having a normal life, within a circle of friends,* and then having this weird wounded woman rock his normality. Then the woman leaves as his house is blown up and he has a chance to forget all about it and try to start again in the Edge, but he finds out that he can't't stop wondering about the woman (or an actual, serious reason why he had to look for her again: insurance purposes?). Finally he picks up and leaves, maybe with a friend at least for part of a journey so he has a goodbye moment to show that he is now really leaving it all. I think the result would have been a much more fleshed out character.
Instead, as far as we can see, early on Snout is an extreme loner, who only communicates with the librarian for purely professional reasons.
The one part that imho worked well is his post-coital sadness. That's some lucid reasoning about himself, his character, and his weaknesses, and it assumes that there were precedents, so Snout wasn't always the loner we saw at the start of the comic. It's a drop in the ocean, however, and I'm not sure it will lead anywhere.
*now that I think about it, this is the opposite of what Mookie has been doing: all of his main characters (DD, Danica, Snout) start out as unhappy loners who stare into objects all day long (ball, telescope, book) and gain relations over the course of the story. Danica and Snout look particularly similar, as they both mostly lack family relations and instead hang out with a trio of rather idealised friends.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-02-14, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Ah, this page feels nostalgic. Just some classic bad art from Mookie. In panel 2, the orc clearly grabs Snout with his right hand, but in panel 3, he's shoving Snout with his left? And he's delivering that punch while standing perfectly straight. That's gotta be the weakest punch ever.
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2022-02-14, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Yep, it immediately reminded me of some ork running alongside someone to punch a target further away, maybe it was Melna. Very classic DD all right.
I am somewhat surprised that Snout, who is mute, tries to attract Arudak's attention by waving his arm, since he cannot see him. Maybe stomping his feet would have been more useful.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-02-16, 12:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
"I'm the guy your wife was cheating on you with. That's why you're the a-hole who deserves to get punched!"
Seriously though, I didn't expect this to come up so soon. That seemed more like long-term foreshadowing. Now this all just feels a little pointless. Why bring up this deep, dark secret if it was just going to be resolved immediately?
Also, why did this guy only appear now, the day after Amtrak learned of his existence and not the, presumably, years before now? Did Lake Witch tip him off that American Express was in town?
Edit: Also also, how does Ink Witch know who he is?Last edited by Celestia; 2022-02-16 at 02:30 AM.
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2022-02-16, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Also, shouldn't they restrain him? I understand the shock, but Ink Witch is actually sufficiently on it to write a message to Snout.
Arudak probably can handle it (he's a wizard and can knok people out at will), but singling someone out and sucker punching him like that elicits some reaction, if only to distance the aggressor from the target.
Now that I think about it, did we ever find out how Ink and Arudak handled the Evil Wushu Master and the other Witch? Snout passed out, and that was it for that scene.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-02-16, 11:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-16, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-02-18, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Nice page. So Arudak wanted the right to devour flower people? https://www.dominic-deegan.com/wp-co...8_20210402.jpg
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-02-18, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2022-02-18, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, what I'm getting so far, is that Avocado had a woman who was a strong loyalist. Then he joined the pure evil rebels (because who wants moral ambiguity?). This, naturally, led to them splitting up, and she moved on to someone else. Thus, there was no cheating involved; Long Hair Orc was simply her second love after dumping her first.
So how the f*** did All Spark not know she "loved another?" Is he just a dumba**?Princess Celestia's Homebrew Corner
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2022-02-18, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2022-02-18, 05:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
So Adirondack was a orc supremacist. Yawn.
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2022-02-18, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
It probably didn't help that these guys communicate by giving away edible parts of themselves.
If she died after they split and he didn't have a chance to meet her again before her demise, it's not that strange. Being a past member of an insanely evil group of blood-drenched traitors probably made it hard to ask information about her to people they both knew, and he got punched as soon as someone in the city recognised him for a Seku. Although this leads to the question of how much the punch was born of political hate and how much it's personal and about the girl, since it's odd that, of all people, it's her lover to appear. But this is a story by Mookie, so one should not assume that everything is accounted for...
Still, I liked this page. What Snout seemed to accept as a father figure turns out to be just as bad as the Witch first described him, and even SHE had been won over in the meantime. And it leads to questions about how exactly he plans to save the girl, and whether she'd even want to be saved by him, assuming she needs to be saved. Plus, it put to use that little bit of worldbuilding we got.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-02-21, 03:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
I really like that Mookie decided to challenge himself by making a comic without dialog balloons.
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2022-02-21, 09:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-21, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Yeesh, with is pretty weaksauce. What's the point of a deaf protagonist if you're just gonna obscure the action, such as it is, behind even bigger words than if you were using traditional speech balloons?
As for the "fight" between Armagnac and Ink Gin, it continues to be thoroughly uninteresting.Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2022-02-22, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-23, 12:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Ilsin? What a weenie name for an orc. Damn. So Armenia didn't just lose his wife to another orc; he lost her to an orc with an elf name. How embarrassing.
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2022-02-28, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
God, I can't believe DD is getting a sequel...
You could do cool stuff with the concept of ink magic in a webcomic format - calligraphy, web-animated blotches/writing to give readers a sense of liquidity. Instead it's just a mechanic to subvert the comic's other interesting premise.
I really wish Mookie's takeaway after realising how gratuitiously he'd been depicting gore for shock value would've been to just moderate it, instead of deciding to gratuitiously use nudity and sex for shock value.
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2022-03-02, 03:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Huh, apparently Lake Witch did tell him Ambivalence was in town.
By the way, "You did X! I hate you!" is such a childish way to say that.Princess Celestia's Homebrew Corner
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2022-03-04, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have no idea who is standing where or how they are moving. The two wide shots not only don't help; they make it worse! Albuquerque looks like he doesn't move at all, but he clearly does because he's standing in front of two different backgrounds. This page just makes no sense.
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2022-03-04, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
Oh, he didn't move. He moved the world around him.
Or something equally nonsensical.
I'm more confused by Snout. Why does he suddenly leap back? I'd get it if Anduin was all "angry orc berserker will punch your face off" but the guy looks more thoughtful/pained/resigned, so it seems weird."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2022-03-04, 03:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, that part is easy to explain. Snout has the same black and white morality filter that Mookie, himself, has. Therefore, any implication that Alderman has been less than 100% good is cause for concern. If he did evil before, then he'll do evil again. Redemption doesn't exist.
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2022-03-04, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2022-03-04, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
My first impression was that he is scared of Arudak, because he used the same open-hand technique that knocked him out. At least, that's what I would deduct from how the pages are arranged. Open hand hurts, Arudak uses open hand, Arudak could hurt me! So he takes a defensive pose and gets away. Which however would throw away all Snout knows about him, and have him act in a purely instinctive, irrational way.
Rationally, I assume that he is horrified by Arudak being in league with genocidal flower-dude eaters (he knows about them because he read of them earlier). Snout's defensive pose is the one you see in movies when the woman finds out that the man she loves actually is/was a bad guy whose deeds made him her enemy and feels fear and disbelief towards him.
I don't think it fits completely (the page order, the lack of a strong, immediate reaction to the news Arudak was a bad guy, and the fact that Snout doesn't have much of a personal stake in all of this and doesn't really know much about Orc history all make the scene less consistent), but I think it's what was meant.
EDIT: I just noticed that both the assaulter and the water nymph have had their fangs cut. I guess it means something; maybe it was a symbol shared by their group (since they refused to eat flower people), maybe it was imposed by their enemies as a punishment or torture or a negative mark during the war.Last edited by Vinyadan; 2022-03-04 at 11:34 AM.
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-03-05, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Legacy of Dominic Deegan II: Don't Be Clothed-Minded!
My first idea was 'huh are these two related?' based on their fangs. Or maybe it's a marking for the orcs who fought the orc nazis.
I'm thinking Snout is just afraid because he recognised the force push that messed him up. (Because he hadn't considered that this is a pretty basic thing mages can do )Last edited by Alcibiades; 2022-03-05 at 02:25 PM.
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2022-03-05, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-03-05, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-03-06, 04:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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I thought that this could be interesting, as maybe the lake witch had an agenda and had deliberately brought the sucker puncher there... then I remembered that they aren't in the big orc hold any more, and the witch actually lives there, and this is the fourth time they meet her.
Even the teeth are probably just a local thing, everyone from this town has them: https://www.dominic-deegan.com/comic/november-8-2021/ https://www.dominic-deegan.com/comic/december-17-2021/Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2022-03-09, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow. What gripping drama. What dripping tension. I was on the edge of my seat these past couple pages.
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