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    The best way I've heard the Yozis described: Imagine being castrated and lobotomized. Now imagine being shoved into the disemboweled body of your king, who was then turned inside out with you still in him.

    You're all still alive, including the king who is twisted in on himself with his own body as a literal prison for you all, including himself.

    You're all in constant agony.

    And you have no idea wh you're creations did this to you, becuase you're incapable of comprehending that they don't like being your toys*

    It had to be done, but the Yozis aren't exactly wrong to be pissed off about it.

    The entire Motivation of the Yozis is "either get out or find some way to make it bearable." In 2nd and 3rd editions, this involves the Green Sun Princes. Stolen adn corrupted Solar Exalted, the Green Sun Princes combine the excellence and perfection that Solars embody with the Cosmic Power of the Yozis who were in on the plan.

    In Second Edition, the Green Sun Princes were supposed to be doing missions toward some goal called the "reclamation" which would lead to a hell on Earth and therefore a loophole in the magically binding oaths of surrender keeping the Yozis from escaping their prison... But due to the way their powers worked, any given Green Sun Prince who became powerful enough could one day become a vessel, and extenstion of one of the Yozi while ceasing toe xist as an independent thought, essentially summoning th Yozi in question free from their prison if it happened anywhere but Hell.

    ...Or, they could develop unique heretical powers of their own and become a class of beings that has all of the powers of a none-diluted primordial but none of their weaknesses and slip their master's control.

    (The short of it is that in 2E, the Yozis were "made of their charms"—discrete abstractions of supernatural powers. What exactly Charms represent depends on them being in question, for Solars it's representative of supernatural technique, for Lunrars it's inhuman physical ability or shapeshifting etc. For Primordials, including the Yozis, it's "Aspects of their biology and fundamental nature." And Infernals, unlike other Exalts, use the same charms as their patrons instead of having unique charms based on their patrons.)

    Preview materials for 3e drop that, partly becuase having a player stat also be designated bad guys for the setting is... Limiting and partly because the stuff about Yozi charms gave people the wrong idea.

    The Preview suggests that in 3e, the Green Sun Princes a distraction: the Yozis want you to go out, do awesome things, and live a hedonistic lifestyle so that they can experience your highs and lows vicariously to take their minds off of their own suffering. Whereas in 2e they selected people who could have exalted under other circumstances but failed in their "big deed," in 3e they're chosen from people who have suffered some great injustice in the hopes that they're take revenge.

    ...But there have been some significant changes in writing and development since then, so by th time the Infernal book actually comes out it could be completly changed.

    I sincerely hope not, however. I have the mental image of a teenager sold into slavery and tortured for fun by the person who bought them making a deal with a demon and seven days later murdering the man who tortured them, stealing everything that isn't nailed down, burning down his entire estate, and using the wealth looted from his home to establish a compound in the wilderness from which they plan to kill every Slaver in Creation while also protecting the surrounding villages from bandits in exchange for being worshiped as a divine embodiment of retribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Ok, one of my Facebook friends blocks me at Facebook because I was laughing that she misspell the word ethics. I don't know why she made a big freaking deal about it. It was a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously.
    Because its mean to laugh at people over simple mistakes. It doesnt matter if it was a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Because its mean to laugh at people over simple mistakes. It doesnt matter if it was a joke.
    Yes but she misspell the word. I don't see what the big deal is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Yes but she misspell the word. I don't see what the big deal is.
    The big deal is that you were making fun of her over something trivial. That was hurtful, you didnt have to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    The big deal is that you were making fun of her over something trivial. That was hurtful, you didnt have to do it.
    Why? Because she was so hyper-sensitive over a damn spelling. Whatever! She should have a more tougher skin. **** her crybaby feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Ok, one of my Facebook friends blocks me at Facebook because I was laughing that she misspell the word ethics. I don't know why she made a big freaking deal about it. It was a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Yes but she misspell the word. I don't see what the big deal is.
    So, it's okay if we here all point out that YOU misspelt a word in the sentence above? We can all laugh about it and make it a joke, because its not a big deal. Hahhahhahahaha!

    Do you understand now? I really don't consider something being misspelt funny. Pointing out mistakes generally isn't. If you made a big joke about it, and you were unfriended, that obviously she wasn't happy with your behavior.
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    What alignment is "generally wants to either do good in the world or else be left alone, but also has a spiteful ide that wants people who harm others due to malice or stupidity to drop dead, hates the idea of people having power over them unless they have some means of holding the authority figure accountable, and kind of likes the trope of eating/absorbing people to gain their power as long as you aren't compelled to do it?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmor View Post
    So, it's okay if we here all point out that YOU misspelt a word in the sentence above? We can all laugh about it and make it a joke, because its not a big deal. Hahhahhahahaha!
    I don't have a problem with that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Why? Because she was so hyper-sensitive over a damn spelling. Whatever! She should have a more tougher skin. **** her crybaby feelings.
    If you dont think her feelings matter, why should she want to be friends with you? Why would anybody, for that matter, if thats the way you treat your supposed friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    If you don't think her feelings matter, why should she want to be friends with you? Why would anybody, for that matter, if that's the way you treat your supposed friends?
    She wasn't much of a friend anyway. I sometimes comment on her post and we didn't have much of a friendly connection anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    I sincerely hope not, however. I have the mental image of a teenager sold into slavery and tortured for fun by the person who bought them making a deal with a demon and seven days later murdering the man who tortured them, stealing everything that isn't nailed down, burning down his entire estate, and using the wealth looted from his home to establish a compound in the wilderness from which they plan to kill every Slaver in Creation while also protecting the surrounding villages from bandits in exchange for being worshiped as a divine embodiment of retribution.
    Its still the vision as of Exalted Essence preview and Exalted previews tend to be exactly what the final product will say based on the DB and Lunar previews I've gotten, just without the art and fancy designs people love. so unless a wild exception occurs, the 3e view of Infernals being anti-authoritarian green demon Solars is here to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    She wasn't much of a friend anyway. I sometimes comment on her post and we didn't have much of a friendly connection anyway.
    So you were making fun of basically a stranger then? No wonder she blocked you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    So you were making fun of basically a stranger then? No wonder she blocked you.
    I really don't care if she did block me. Beisde I have more friends that I have many friendly connections with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    I really don't care if she did block me. Beisde I have more friends that I have many friendly connections with.
    Then why are you posting about it here?

    Also, you misspelled 'besides.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    I really don't care if she did block me. Beisde I have more friends that I have many friendly connections with.
    You seemed to care enough to make an angry post about it and then curse her out for having feelings.
    “Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Muse View Post
    Then why are you posting about it here?

    Also, you misspelled 'besides.'
    Beside I have a right to speak my mind about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    You seemed to care enough to make an angry post about it and then curse her out for having feelings.
    At this point I really don't care anymore. I move on from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    Its still the vision as of Exalted Essence preview and Exalted previews tend to be exactly what the final product will say based on the DB and Lunar previews I've gotten, just without the art and fancy designs people love. so unless a wild exception occurs, the 3e view of Infernals being anti-authoritarian green demon Solars is here to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Beside I have a right to speak my mind about it.

    At this point I really don't care anymore. I move on from that.
    That should have been "besides" this time. The second sentence probably should be "I'm moving on...."
    Yes, you do have a right to speak you mind about things, just like everyone else. Most of us don't usually complain about things like this (on multiple forums) like you do. If it really wasn't an issue/important, why bring it up in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmor View Post
    That should have been "besides" this time. The second sentence probably should be "I'm moving on...."
    Yes, you do have a right to speak you mind about things, just like everyone else. Most of us don't usually complain about things like this (on multiple forums) like you do. If it really wasn't an issue/important, why bring it up in the first place?
    Just want to hear your thoughts on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Just want to hear your thoughts on the matter.
    I'm rather curious what thoughts you were expecting. Fairly ordinary facebook interactions are, frankly, not terribly interesting at the best of times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    I'm rather curious what thoughts you were expecting. Fairly ordinary facebook interactions are, frankly, not terribly interesting at the best of times.
    I thought that she was making a big deal about it which is pretty obvious and clear for me which is the type of vibe I got from her.
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    ...Yes. The Avenging Princess of Transcendent Retribution Shall Live, and all of Creation shall know her name.
    So I spent the dog's entire life trying to teach him to shake to no avail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Beside I have a right to speak my mind about it.
    Your "friend" spoke her mind and you said "well **** her for being a crybaby".

    If you want to be able to speak your mind, then you should let others do it as well. And if you want to shame people for disliking something you did to them, then you should not be surprised when virtually everyone here disagrees with you. I do not think you would react well to being treated the way you treat others.

    Also, I call not it on making the new thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Your "friend" spoke her mind and you said, "well **** her for being a crybaby".

    If you want to be able to speak your mind, then you should let others do it as well. And if you want to shame people for disliking something you did to them, then you should not be surprised when virtually everyone here disagrees with you. I do not think you would react well to being treated the way you treat others.

    Also, I call not it on making the new thread.
    Fine disagree with me. I still stand by what I said and I don't feel any sympathy at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Fine disagree with me. I still stand by what I said and I don't feel any sympathy at all.
    Cool. We stand by what we said. This reflects incredibly poorly on you, and no one here who has said anything agrees with your course of action.
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    I made a new random banter thread. A work in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    If you dont think her feelings matter, why should she want to be friends with you? Why would anybody, for that matter, if thats the way you treat your supposed friends?
    He's not saying he thought her feelings didn't matter. He's saying that he's surprised she was so sensitive about being teased about her spelling that it hurt her feelings at all.

    It strikes me that it's the sort of thing that would bother some people and not others. It's just an occasion where Bartman and this other person saw things differently, and he didn't understand her perspective.

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