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    I had forgotten how little O-Chul actually knows the Order.
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    Am I the only one worried by that forgetfullness cauldron there? Would be potion effects on ingestion, touch, or injected?

    ... and what kind of crazy trick would have Serini for a rainy day ? :)


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    ha ha! never got to read a comic before even the topic thread came up!

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    Bringing over my post from the end of the last thread as this one didn't exist yet

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    And thank the gods the Order are (hopefully) about to stop Serini from using her big guns on them instead of, you know, the actual threat
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    O-Chul being able to rate the Order's rescues is as funny as the Order being able to rate how earth shatering the sound of a destroyed Gate is.
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    Okay, now I feel sorry for the poor halfling lady.

    (Makes me wonder how she'd feel about the news that Soon almost killed Xykon and Redcloak.)
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    Dorukan's name is misspelled in panel 5.

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    Yup, called it - Serini's not just convinced in her logic, she's also scared [bleep]less of Xykon and for a good reason. Vindication!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Bringing over my post from the end of the last thread as this one didn't exist yet

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    And thank the gods the Order are (hopefully) about to stop Serini from using her big guns on them instead of, you know, the actual threat
    Seconded. Also, I'm really hoping that Lein is able to get out of the chains and help as well.
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    Is it just me or did Serini misspell Dorukan's name for some reason?
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    Awesome! As always

    I think you accidentally merged Dorukan's and Durkon's names together as "Dorukon", on panel 5

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    Is it just me or did Serini misspell Dorukan's name for some reason?
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    Considering how close the last escape was the rating seems a tad optimistic. I don't see any friendly monsters with surprise abilities around to bail them out this time...

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    Looking forward to seeing how the new Belkar reacts to paladin allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    Yup, called it - Serini's not just convinced in her logic, she's also scared [bleep]less of Xykon and for a good reason. Vindication!
    Yeah, a personal reason for it is more compelling than just thinking she's logciked it all out.

    Also she seems to be treating power as a simple thing, much like Vaarsuvius used to. These powerful people failed, therefore nobody can win. Yet when Vaarsuvius nearly threw the phylactery into the rift they did it with low level magic, coming much closer to an actual lasting blow than the soul splices did. It will be something like that that takes Xykon down rather than just grouping up the bigger numbers against him.
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    Belkar -- "Fire in the hole! Meaning me. I'm fire."
    Very true to form. I'll miss the little psycho when he's gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    Yup, called it - Serini's not just convinced in her logic, she's also scared [bleep]less of Xykon and for a good reason. Vindication!
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    Yeah, a personal reason for it is more compelling than just thinking she's logciked it all out.

    Also she seems to be treating power as a simple thing, much like Vaarsuvius used to. These powerful people failed, therefore nobody can win. Yet when Vaarsuvius nearly threw the phylactery into the rift they did it with low level magic, coming much closer to an actual lasting blow than the soul splices did. It will be something like that that takes Xykon down rather than just grouping up the bigger numbers against him.
    She's forgetting the biggest reason the Scribble failed - they all hated each other's guts by the end and thus wouldn't cooperate properly even when reality was on the line. The Order meanwhile have been forged into a found family by their collective travails, demonstrated in microcosm by them using teamwork to kick her butt earlier.
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    Sounds like Serini got a real inferiority complex related to her party.

    I'm now picturing her thinking she deserved to die instead of Kraagor. She probably thinks they were all better than her.

    The irony is that they all died, and she lived. And now she has to succeed where the others failed.
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    I loved Serini calling Lirian and Dorukan ”Dor and Lir”, Twas cute
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    Absolutely amazing. Great call-back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    I had forgotten how little O-Chul actually knows the Order.
    Hmmm... he was around when they conspired with Shojo; he was not-really with them during the siege; he was rescued by V and had a small bit of time to get acquainted with them again; he knows Belkar is evil; and he had plenty of time to learn from Lien about her adventures with Elan, V and Durkon.

    Yes, he should be more circumspect in his statements, but given this is the final book, he should have reason to be confident.

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    Am I the only one worried by that forgetfullness cauldron there? Would be potion effects on ingestion, touch, or injected?

    ... and what kind of crazy trick would have Serini for a rainy day ? :)


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    Survivor guilt AND inadaquacy..... Serini and Belkar parellals...
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    Serini knowing the paladins were trying to escape and that it was lame without having to look was neat. Her having nicknames for her old adventuring buddies was neat.

    I am seriously disappointed in her though, since her whole "plan" seems to indeed be "just drag this on as long as possible." At least the fighting bits seem to be over. I'm guessing she'll die as she comes around or something.
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    Ohhhhhh, I hadnt even considered the angle of Serini's old friends. oops
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    I wonder how many other rescue parties O-Chul needed before, to get a nice baseline to compare with the order.

    But his line is great.
    And Serinis nicknames for her team are a nice touch. It makes her more human (halflingish? ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post

    I am seriously disappointed in her though, since her whole "plan" seems to indeed be "just drag this on as long as possible."
    Dragging things out as long as possible is a fine plan - eventually Xykon or Redcloak might feel the entire dungeon is a trick and there is no gate here at all and go elsewhere, or Redcloak might hit epic levels and they might feel it both quicker and safer to rebuild one of the other gates and thereby leave hers alone while also reinforcing the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    I am seriously disappointed in her though, since her whole "plan" seems to indeed be "just drag this on as long as possible."
    That's not her plan though. She just refuses to give up so far. She's not planned to drag this out as long as possible any more than the Order planned to drag their campaign against Xykon on as long as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    That's not her plan though. She just refuses to give up so far. She's not planned to drag this out as long as possible any more than the Order planned to drag their campaign against Xykon on as long as possible.
    She may not have planned to drag this out, but O-Chul and Lien are right on the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    She may not have planned to drag this out, but O-Chul and Lien are right on the money.
    Eh, knowing that she's not far up her ass enough that her internal organs resemble a full-body cast and is at least partly motivated by fear I understand why she feels this way. Don't agree with her, of course, but I can't blame her too much.
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