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    Default [3.5] Beguiler/Swashbuckler Build

    So, assuming I'm locked into the following class levels Swashbuckler 3/Beguiler 4 (for reasons, more theorycraft than anything)...what is my best progression, assuming I don't want to lose any more caster levels.

    At our table, Versatile Spellcaster will give me access to next level spells early, so if I hit CL 16, I can access and cast Beguiler 9 spells.

    Some kind of skilful gish would be ideal.

    Usual restrictions for my table: no PF, no 3rd party, no Kalamar, no Ravenloft (except EtCR), no Dragonlance (except campaign setting), ideall no Dragon (aside from compendium) or Dungeon; no psionics, no incarnum, no Artificers. No UA generic classes, prestige Bard/Paladin/Ranger etc.

    No retraining, level drain shenanigans etc.

    Assume 32 point buy, LA +0 race, standard WBL etc.

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    Default Re: [3.5] Beguiler/Swashbuckler Build

    Maybe finish with something like Abjurant Champion 5/Unseen Seer 8? That leaves you at +16 to hit and 17 levels of Beguiler casting advancement. You'll need Combat Casting and Practiced Spellcaster.

    For non-divination spells, your caster level is 17-2 (divination spell power)16(Martial Arcanist)+4(Practiced Spellcaster)=20
    For divination spells, your caster level is 17+3(Practiced Spellcaster)+2(Divination Spell power)=22.

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    Default Re: [3.5] Beguiler/Swashbuckler Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthrowhale View Post
    Maybe finish with something like Abjurant Champion 5/Unseen Seer 8? That leaves you at +16 to hit and 17 levels of Beguiler casting advancement. You'll need Combat Casting and Practiced Spellcaster.

    For non-divination spells, your caster level is 17-2 (divination spell power)16(Martial Arcanist)+4(Practiced Spellcaster)=20
    For divination spells, your caster level is 17+3(Practiced Spellcaster)+2(Divination Spell power)=22.
    Nice, I like that a lot.

    I think I'll use feats to get Assassin's Stance before the US level, so I can advance SA damage.

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    Default Re: [3.5] Beguiler/Swashbuckler Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Nice, I like that a lot.

    I think I'll use feats to get Assassin's Stance before the US level, so I can advance SA damage.
    Ah, I hadn't thought of that. If you can swap around your early levels just a bit, then you might do:

    So, something like:
    1. Combat Casting
    3. Versatile Spellcaster
    6. Practiced Spellcaster
    9. Martial Study[Shadow Jaunt]
    12. Martial Stance[Assassin's Stance]
    15. ??
    18. ??

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    Default Re: [3.5] Beguiler/Swashbuckler Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthrowhale View Post
    Ah, I hadn't thought of that. If you can swap around your early levels just a bit, then you might do:

    So, something like:
    1. Combat Casting
    3. Versatile Spellcaster
    6. Practiced Spellcaster
    9. Martial Study[Shadow Jaunt]
    12. Martial Stance[Assassin's Stance]
    15. ??
    18. ??
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    Default Re: [3.5] Beguiler/Swashbuckler Build

    I don't suppose it would make things more fun to splash a bit of Factotum in there? I definitely feel like Abjurant Champion and Unseen Seer are very solid, and probably the way to go, I just particularly like Factotum, I suppose.

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