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2022-01-07, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1251 - The Discussion Thread
I doubt it. When people get an idea stuck in their head, it's common for them to look at everything they see as a confirmation of it.
Belkar is just less angry and more cooperative than he used to be- the last two books have had a major impact on him. He's not supposed to be stabbing Serini right now, which has been his default way of interacting with people for a long time now, so he's defaulting to something new that's still within character- making sarcastic commentary.
Serini reminding him of his grandmother seems kind of natural to me. He hasn't been around another halfling in a long time, and Belkar does have a kind of respect for cantankerous behavior.
Meanwhile, Serini's dedication to a clearly lost battle which losing has minimal consequences for her is impressively hard-headed. Her amnesia potion is gone, and even if she escaped the Order is going to release the paladins, find out what her plan was, and permanently thwart it by cast send and letting someone who is beyond Serini's reach what's up. There really is no win condition for her at this point.
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2022-01-07, 01:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Belkar, I am your great-grandmother!
- No. I killed my great-grandmother.
I also confess, I got really dirty thoughts. I thought that "wet beak" is an invitation to the... uh... date.
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2022-01-07, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Great callback
I assume that's the Chaos side?
To be fair, the only other one we know onscreen IIRC (other than Frudu, who may be fictional in-universe) is Hank, so too small a sample size to determine.
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2022-01-07, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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"You'd be surprised"
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2022-01-07, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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There was a comic where Belkar mentioned something about grandma Bitterleaf, or Granny Bitterleaf, and I think her recipe for something, but I am not sure I want to search hundreds of strips to find it.
It is nice to see that his "respect for his elders" is somewhat consistent (Shojo and Serini); so far, we can conclude that he has respect for eccentric old people.Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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2022-01-07, 02:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1251 - The Discussion Thread
Xykon's TeeVo did record Frudu:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0415.html
and he turned down Roy's offer of a place in the party in Origin of PCs.
Last panel of page 1 of strip 200:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0200.htmlLast edited by hamishspence; 2022-01-07 at 02:17 PM.
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2022-01-07, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1251 - The Discussion Thread
In other news, after years without them my avatar finally has arms, though along with them came an art update that made it a bit less OOTS-like.
[edit: previous for reference]
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2022-01-07, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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I knew about the Teevo, but I thought he might be a fictional character in-universe anyway. I had forgotten the OtOoPCs appearance however, so Frudu does exist.
I think that was Mama Bitterleaf rather than Granny.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2022-01-07, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Could be that.
But I think the grandma reference I was remembering was from BRitFLast edited by KorvinStarmast; 2022-01-07 at 02:55 PM.
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2022-01-07, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-01-07, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Aww, I'm with Belkar slightly. My grandma taught me to gamble (and cheat and gambling)
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2022-01-07, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-01-07, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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What does it mean to get your beak wet?
To partake in part of the profits of another person's business, usually as a result of extortion. (Used especially in reference to organized crime, particularly "protection money" paid to the Italian Mafia.)
Trust me, you're better off just giving him what he wants whenever he comes round to wet his beak.
Spoiler: more wiktionary stuffwet one's beak (third-person singular simple present wets one's beak, present participle wetting one's beak, simple past and past participle wet one's beak or wetted one's beak)
(idiomatic) To drink a beverage.
(idiomatic, gangster slang) To take one's share from the financial proceeds of illicit activity.
Synonyms
(drink a beverage): wet one's whistle
(take one's share from illicit financial activity): get a piece of the pie, get a piece of the action
I zoomed in a little and it appears to me that Serini's heel reached back far enough to hit Haley in the glutes. I say that due to us seeing Serini's foot going past Haley's rearmost leg (based on stance/angle) which to my perspective (yeah, it's a 2D medium) means that we are seeing the foot hit Haley's behind.
It took me a moment to see what you were referring to, but I can see that reaction also.
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that would clash with the general tone of the sceneLast edited by KorvinStarmast; 2022-01-07 at 03:01 PM.
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Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2022-01-07, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Belkar has two Grandmothers, only one who would be named Granny Bitterleaf (and whose maiden name would have been something else besides Bitterleaf before marrying Grampy Bitterleaf) (Props to Mathguy for making most of this point first, so glad I wasn't the only one to realize this), in addition there are potential for siblings (again, Granny Bitterleaf could easily be Serini's Half-Sister... or is it Quarter-Sister, or Sixth-Sister, or Eight-Sister, or Six Sixteenths-Sister... what precisely is the term for a Half-Troll/Half-Halfling Half-Sister of a Halfling?), friends, sixth cousin eight times removed on his mother's father's side, generations early than Granny Bitterleaf, their siblings, friends, ex-lovers, rivals. Belkar and Serini could easily be related directly or indirectly a myriad of ways through Granny Bitterleaf.
Granny Bitterleaf could easily be Tahini Toormuck-Bitterleaf, middle sister of Serini and Bellini Toormuck, Mother of Bakarr Bitterleaf (Belkar's dad, Confectioner and Pastry Chef) and Judy Bitterleaf (Aunt Judy), and wife of Bikarr (Halfling Artificer specializing in making magical steel horses) Bitterleaf.
Maybe she is Quarter-Trolling us, cause she is a Half-Troll/Halfling...Last edited by Shoelessgdowar; 2022-01-07 at 03:21 PM. Reason: to not double post, but to add
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2022-01-07, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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So the kettle got knocked to the ground and spilled. Here I was wondering if it would be a Chekhov's kettle where someone would lose their memory, but it appears no such thing is going to occur.
I'm glad Razor got sent back safely! That's a cool Paladin summon.
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2022-01-07, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's not what the Giant said. He said in the foreword of OtOoPC that if he wrote a messed up back story for Belkar that wouldn't make his evil actions better for the readers. Belkar could have had a nice loving family for all we know. And the Giant said elsewhere that he doesn't invent parts of the setting background that are not necessary for writing the story anywhere, so I don't believe that he invented a messed up childhood for Belkar that he never writes about either.
Though I'm probably missing some other Giant quote of Belkar's back story besides the three that I mentioned.
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No chance. The Giant has made it very clear that all intelligent species have a wide range of alignments. If he has gone to great lengths to push back against tropes like "All goblins are evil" or "All drow are evil," then he certainly isn't about to suggest those kinds of racial tendencies for halflings. After all, we know in-canon that people expect them to be jolly.